Chunky Stool

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I'm just trying to help you here..... I assume that's coco and it looks like it's probably drying out too much between feeding. Can't let coco dry out, it messes with the cation exchange capacity(CEC) For the plant size I would drop the ppm down to 450ish or even 400 and raise the pH to 6.3. I finish most of my plants in flower at 700 ish. I haven't found the need for a super low pH in coco compared to dwc.
Ever have problems with bleached tips?
From what I've read, my lights are too close -- but if that was the case, it would affect more than just a couple of plants.
Weird.
I've never seen anything like this before...
 

macsnax

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@Chunky Stool...... What are your lights? Are these buds or leaves that look bleached? I actually roasted a few plants on my first run with my cobs and didn't have any bleaching. But led's are prone to producing "hash tips" which looks like bleaching, on the buds if too close/intense. Some think it's bad, but I've also read that hash tips test higher in thc.
 

Chunky Stool

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What are your lights? Are these buds or leaves that look bleached? I actually roasted a few plants on my first run with my cobs and didn't have any bleaching. But led's are prone to producing "hash tips" which looks like bleaching, on the buds if too close/intense. Some think it's bad, but I've also read that hash tips test higher in thc.
This is my first run with LED.
A buddy upgraded and gave me his old platinum P900 (blurple).
Only the tips are bleached. Other than being white, they look normal.

It's been an interesting crop. The seeds were from my dirty socks pheno of CV triple nova.
Stretchy as fawk.... :shock:
 

macsnax

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This is my first run with LED.
A buddy upgraded and gave me his old platinum P900 (blurple).
Only the tips are bleached. Other than being white, they look normal.

It's been an interesting crop. The seeds were from my dirty socks pheno of CV triple nova.
Stretchy as fawk.... :shock:
Goggle hash tips and see if it looks similar. I actually think their kinda cool. Sounds like you'll be able to form your own opinion soon, lol.
 

Chunky Stool

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They never really came to a conclusion.

I'm thinking buds with no color probably have no flavor, but this is all new to me.

And I still don't know why it doesn't affect all of my plants.

This has been an experiment so my space is intentionally small.
I've got 1 LED light that only pulls 510w at the wall. (Advertising implies 900, of course. ;-))

The spectrum is interesting; not normal blurple (blue/red). It's got orange diodes and even a few green ones.

Oh and it "bleeds" a tiny bit of light when used with my smart plug. (App says zero watts at the wall.)
Don't get me started about that... :cuss:
 

BigHornBuds

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They never really came to a conclusion.

I'm thinking buds with no color probably have no flavor, but this is all new to me.

And I still don't know why it doesn't affect all of my plants.

This has been an experiment so my space is intentionally small.
I've got 1 LED light that only pulls 510w at the wall. (Advertising implies 900, of course. ;-))

The spectrum is interesting; not normal blurple (blue/red). It's got orange diodes and even a few green ones.

Oh and it "bleeds" a tiny bit of light when used with my smart plug. (App says zero watts at the wall.)
Don't get me started about that... :cuss:

I believe the reason people are experiencing “hash tips” with LEDs is that they make intense light with out a lot of heat, there for not cooking the bud brown.
It is bleaching, I can make it happen with my DEs , from getting to close , but because I have so much air movement n xl AC am able to keep them from cooking , n they grow white.
When running numbers, I’m better off with tossing the bleached tips , then not growing the plants as big . but overall yield is more . 9B0E96B4-B7A7-48F9-A7CB-CAC398E4A817.jpeg
I think one day I’ll get this space to 2gpw
Last was only 1.6 , guessing the same for the one I just cut.
Been doing summer stuff , n not working in the garden.

Now that I’m going to be a cripple for a couple months , I’ll have time to figure it out .
 

thenotsoesoteric

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I believe the reason people are experiencing “hash tips” with LEDs is that they make intense light with out a lot of heat, there for not cooking the bud brown.
It is bleaching, I can make it happen with my DEs , from getting to close , but because I have so much air movement n xl AC am able to keep them from cooking , n they grow white.
When running numbers, I’m better off with tossing the bleached tips , then not growing the plants as big . but overall yield is more . View attachment 4383006
I think one day I’ll get this space to 2gpw
Last was only 1.6 , guessing the same for the one I just cut.
Been doing summer stuff , n not working in the garden.

Now that I’m going to be a cripple for a couple months , I’ll have time to figure it out .
Did you get hurt? I know you wete showing the ktm a while back, you didn't go too big on those jumps did you?

Hate to hear you're laid up, get better soon buddy.
 

macsnax

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They never really came to a conclusion.

I'm thinking buds with no color probably have no flavor, but this is all new to me.

And I still don't know why it doesn't affect all of my plants.

This has been an experiment so my space is intentionally small.
I've got 1 LED light that only pulls 510w at the wall. (Advertising implies 900, of course. ;-))

The spectrum is interesting; not normal blurple (blue/red). It's got orange diodes and even a few green ones.

Oh and it "bleeds" a tiny bit of light when used with my smart plug. (App says zero watts at the wall.)
Don't get me started about that... :cuss:
That seems to be the common conclusion with this subject. I remember chemphlegm used to hold them in a high regard. Hell if I know, I've never had em.
 

macsnax

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I believe the reason people are experiencing “hash tips” with LEDs is that they make intense light with out a lot of heat, there for not cooking the bud brown.
It is bleaching, I can make it happen with my DEs , from getting to close , but because I have so much air movement n xl AC am able to keep them from cooking , n they grow white.
When running numbers, I’m better off with tossing the bleached tips , then not growing the plants as big . but overall yield is more . View attachment 4383006
I think one day I’ll get this space to 2gpw
Last was only 1.6 , guessing the same for the one I just cut.
Been doing summer stuff , n not working in the garden.

Now that I’m going to be a cripple for a couple months , I’ll have time to figure it out .
I think hash tips are different than bleached tips, but I get your point. And bummer man, what did you crash?
 

BigHornBuds

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Did you get hurt? I know you wete showing the ktm a while back, you didn't go too big on those jumps did you?

Hate to hear you're laid up, get better soon buddy.
Thanks
Ya it bit me , this is the 1st time it sent me to the hospital tho (I’ve had it for 5years)

Complacency is a bitch.


I think hash tips are different than bleached tips, but I get your point. And bummer man, what did you crash?
I don’t think they are different,
I need a puff , I’ll go see if I can find one .
Wife still won’t let me smoke inside .

Dirt bike .
 

thenotsoesoteric

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Thanks
Ya it bit me , this is the 1st time it sent me to the hospital tho (I’ve had it for 5years)

Complacency is a bitch.



I don’t think they are different,
I need a puff , I’ll go see if I can find one .
Wife still won’t let me smoke inside .

Dirt bike .
That sucks to hear man. Dirt bikes are fun as hell but damn it's easy to get hurt on one.
 

Shua1991

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Started 12 seeds of my (Sour Mandarina x Strawberry Daiquiri) fems I made about 4 months ago. Looking for Sour, fuely and the chemical funk that parents each produce but with the crazy terps they both put out.

I chose a heavy Biker Kush leaning 'Sour Mandarina' for the mom and I reversed my best Strawberry Daiquiri to expand the effect, as the biker Kush dom plants have very potent physical stone and body rush is almost immediate, the strawberry Daiquiri is similar but pretty much all mental and upbeat.
 

nc208

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I think hash tips are different than bleached tips, but I get your point. And bummer man, what did you crash?
Hash Tips would have green leaves underneath wouldn't they? the trichs are so dense that it appears to look white. Bleaching would be the leaf and bud losing its chlorophyll? Not sure if this is what's happening. With corals when stressed by intense light or warmer conditions it is quite common for them to expel their zooxanthellae which is their color pigment so the coral appears white but still living. I'm curious if this is a similiar event in the buds.
 

macsnax

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Hash Tips would have green leaves underneath wouldn't they? the trichs are so dense that it appears to look white. Bleaching would be the leaf and bud losing its chlorophyll? Not sure if this is what's happening. With corals when stressed by intense light or warmer conditions it is quite common for them to expel their zooxanthellae which is their color pigment so the coral appears white but still living. I'm curious if this is a similiar event in the buds.
From what I remember, and I smoke weed so....
I think the difference is hash tips aren't burnt or bleached, they're heavy concentrations of trichomes from being right at that threshold between happy and too far.
 
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