Logan Burke

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Not sure they will lighten up..only the new growth
Oh I see, I was thinking that all of the foliage would lighten up. But its alright, the flush is doing it's job whether I can see it or not I'm sure. I'm going to start a small 1 plant scrog grow in my 3x3ft tent to help keep me occupied and not too 'down' should these go south. Time to go check my seed stash :)
 

Stltoed

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Oh I see, I was thinking that all of the foliage would lighten up. But its alright, the flush is doing it's job whether I can see it or not I'm sure. I'm going to start a small 1 plant scrog grow in my 3x3ft tent to help keep me occupied and not too 'down' should these go south. Time to go check my seed stash :)
Positive thinking my man. haha
 

Logan Burke

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These aren't nanners, I checked them in every way and they don't have the thickness or divide down the middle like a nanner. Also not the same color. But I am getting some wild shaped leaves on some of these plants it reminds you of revegging but I have literally changed nothing but the flush!
 

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A few buds starting to look all screwed up like this...im at a total loss. Looks like revegging even though there has been no change in any way in light. Only nutes of course.
 

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Ok, so from what I've gathered from the past 4 hours of non-stop internet scouring, is that a handful of things can result in reveg. First and foremost, interruption of light cycle which I'm 99.9% isn't it or my plants would've had this issue long before now. Nothing with light has changed. Second possibility, is too much N during flowering. Very possible on that one, but they've been in flush for 2 days at the time those weird leaves emerged? Third possibility is PH problems. This might be possible, this below 100ppm RO water simply does not want to hold a PH value very well for me. It just doesn't want to hold a ph value for long, it just drifts. I've never had this with PH instability before though, and believe you me I've had some bad PH swings in past grows mid-flower. Oh well, I'll check back when they turn on here in 5 hours. I'll get these ladys back on track though, one way or another.
 

Stltoed

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Ok, so from what I've gathered from the past 4 hours of non-stop internet scouring, is that a handful of things can result in reveg. First and foremost, interruption of light cycle which I'm 99.9% isn't it or my plants would've had this issue long before now. Nothing with light has changed. Second possibility, is too much N during flowering. Very possible on that one, but they've been in flush for 2 days at the time those weird leaves emerged? Third possibility is PH problems. This might be possible, this below 100ppm RO water simply does not want to hold a PH value very well for me. It just doesn't want to hold a ph value for long, it just drifts. I've never had this with PH instability before though, and believe you me I've had some bad PH swings in past grows mid-flower. Oh well, I'll check back when they turn on here in 5 hours. I'll get these ladys back on track though, one way or another.
Maybe your nitrogen is becoming more available, and your plants are using it... I really dont know, but I think it might be a good sign
 

Logan Burke

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You have no idea how much it relieved me to see you say 'it might be a good sign' lol...but yeah, maybe so, today will be their 3rd day of flush come midnight. Do they still need some more time flushing, or would you go ahead and start adding some nutes back? In the position I'm in, losing this crop isn't an option, so even if they have revegged I'll just have to revert them on back to bloom. I can be one stubborn SOB lol. Maybe just the PH swinging has them flustered.
 

Stltoed

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You have no idea how much it relieved me to see you say 'it might be a good sign' lol...but yeah, maybe so, today will be their 3rd day of flush come midnight. Do they still need some more time flushing, or would you go ahead and start adding some nutes back? In the position I'm in, losing this crop isn't an option, so even if they have revegged I'll just have to revert them on back to bloom. I can be one stubborn SOB lol. Maybe just the PH swinging has them flustered.
 

Stltoed

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How bout you add nutrients tomorrow. Start slow. No Nitrogen. I think Fupa is right and start at half of what your target PPMs are. The wild Ph swings are worrisome, but I dont believe theres any way around it till you can recirculate a larger amount of water
 

Logan Burke

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Yeah I agree on all of those points. And yeah small res size has created PH swings for me in past grows, this grow has actually been the most stable in PH up until now. I think the PH will settle when I add nutes back. I'll do like you're saying and instead of adding all these additives I'm just going to do plain jane base nutrient. No calmag, no bloom boosters, just the base nute. With any luck, here in about 2 weeks they'll be back to swelling again. :) Thanks Stl!
 

Stltoed

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Yeah I agree on all of those points. And yeah small res size has created PH swings for me in past grows, this grow has actually been the most stable in PH up until now. I think the PH will settle when I add nutes back. I'll do like you're saying and instead of adding all these additives I'm just going to do plain jane base nutrient. No calmag, no bloom boosters, just the base nute. With any luck, here in about 2 weeks they'll be back to swelling again. :) Thanks Stl!
I think you should add Calcium. And makes sure you add it first. Calcium, Silica, and some base nutes need to be added in a certain way. Usually its Silica first, Calcium and then micro, but some will argue which goes in when. If you got fulvic acid it should go in also it doesnt matter when you put that one in
 

Logan Burke

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Is there any way I can add calcium without adding any N with it? And yeah I ordered some of that Fulpower as it does not have any NPK value I can see. But it didn't qualify for prime shipping so it'll be about a week before I get it.
 

Stltoed

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Is there any way I can add calcium without adding any N with it? And yeah I ordered some of that Fulpower as it does not have any NPK value I can see. But it didn't qualify for prime shipping so it'll be about a week before I get it.
Sure you could just have Calcium. Curious why.
 

Logan Burke

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I've just not been able to find a calcium source that can be added to hydroponics that doesn't have some form of N. I'd love to find some though, then I'd just add my Mg via epsom salts. I wouldn't think the N in it would be any stronger than the calcium nitrate in my CaliMagic or other calmag products...but apparently the 1% Nitrogen in the CaliMagic is a bigger deal than I thought, going into this grow. *Edit* My bad CaliMagic uses Calcium Carbonate.
 
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