LB's Wildly Mediocre DWC/ScROG Grow

[Stltoed]

I figured you two might enjoy this... Strawberry Banana from DNA Genetics.

 

[Fupaslayer]

I figured you two might enjoy this... Strawberry Banana from DNA Genetics.

Nice I still have about 3 more weeks give or take! But I’m dealing with some high salinity right now that I’ve been correcting. All my coco girls had run off of 3000-5000 Ppms but I’ve been getting them down slowly! Though one of them has gone down hill bad buds are so skinny like fingers lol though the rest of them still have decent to fat nugs

 

[Stltoed]

Nice I still have about 3 more weeks give or take! But I’m dealing with some high salinity right now that I’ve been correcting. All my coco girls had run off of 3000-5000 Ppms but I’ve been getting them down slowly! Though one of them has gone down hill bad buds are so skinny like fingers lol though the rest of them still have decent to fat nugs

That's amazing. 5000, crazy. Yeah as I was saying, mine are coming back right now. I got about 3 weeks left. I did a nute change yesterday I got rid of the PK booster. Gonna finish with Final Boost, and Mendecino Avalanche

 

[Fupaslayer]

That's amazing. 5000, crazy. Yeah as I was saying, mine are coming back right now. I got about 3 weeks left. I did a nute change yesterday I got rid of the PK booster. Gonna finish with Final Boost, and Mendecino Avalanche

What nutrient line are you using I’m looking into changing up on my next grow

 

[Stltoed]

What nutrient line are you using I’m looking into changing up on my next grow

Honestly, I use the GH trio. I started with it and only tried one other base nute for about 3 weeks.

I've tried quite a few additive though. I use Silica, usually use Silica Blast. Fulvic acid Fulpower, I think I'm using Calimagic right now. I think I told you what I finish with.

Heres a before and after of the plant I deep fried... the plant on the left. If you look at the first pic you can see the leaves are tattered. The second picture is about 10 days after

 

[Fupaslayer]

Honestly, I use the GH trio. I started with it and only tried one other base nute for about 3 weeks.

I've tried quite a few additive though. I use Silica, usually use Silica Blast. Fulvic acid Fulpower, I think I'm using Calimagic right now. I think I told you what I finish with.

Heres a before and after of the plant I deep fried... the plant on the left. If you look at the first pic you can see the leaves are tattered. The second picture is about 10 days after

Haha nice comeback though like I tell my friends; it’s cool playas fuck up lol

 

[Logan Burke]

It could have been both. Plants weakened by Nitrogen toxicity that caused an adverse reaction to the light. The shininess (?) Silica early and regularly possibly kept the issue from going completely wonky. If I remember correctly you used Silica? So loaded.

I hadn't begun using the Silica until about a week or week and a half ago, I ran out a couple grows ago and decided to try without it. Not the best decision in hindsight, but at least I got it when I did. I'm only giving the 'mild' dose on the bottle though, 1mL/gal (0-0-4 npk), I figured I should be careful since I've already overferted. I've almost got all 4 plants flushing now, had to milk my RO system as it's kind of a cheap 100-150$ one.

Honestly, I use the GH trio. I started with it and only tried one other base nute for about 3 weeks.

I've tried quite a few additive though. I use Silica, usually use Silica Blast. Fulvic acid Fulpower, I think I'm using Calimagic right now. I think I told you what I finish with.

Heres a before and after of the plant I deep fried... the plant on the left. If you look at the first pic you can see the leaves are tattered. The second picture is about 10 days after

That plant came back real strong! Does the fulvic acid help them withstand stress sort of like the Silicate does?

 

[Stltoed]

Yeah I

I hadn't begun using the Silica until about a week or week and a half ago, I ran out a couple grows ago and decided to try without it. Not the best decision in hindsight, but at least I got it when I did. I'm only giving the 'mild' dose on the bottle though, 1mL/gal (0-0-4 npk), I figured I should be careful since I've already overferted. I've almost got all 4 plants flushing now, had to milk my RO system as it's kind of a cheap 100-150$ one.

That plant came back real strong! Does the fulvic acid help them withstand stress sort of like the Silicate does?

Another cool benefit of a reservoir, AND float valve! Set it and forget it. Straight from the RO. Itll take a while, but you wont have to watch it.
Ok, I've said my peace. No more RDWC talk... haha

It's doing better, thank you. I use fulvic acid all the time. Its mild, it wont crush your PPMs by adding a lot to the res. But not all humic fulvic acids are the same. Fulvex by Botanicare works ok. Gen Hydros Diamond Nectar isnt anything special. But Fulpower from bioag is the goods. Ive used all three quite a bit, but Fulpower is where at. This would be something to give your plants in a flush. It cheates elements and allows for better nutrient uptake and bioavailability. I wonder if it could help move your nitrogen. I have absolutely no idea.

 

[Logan Burke]

Yeah it does sound like a breeze compared to this, I'm going to build a sink with an RO system in it in the basement near my tent, and then do something like what you're talking about. Probably at the end of this semester of class.
And yeah that would make sense, it won't do any harm if not and should still help. I have 2 day shipping with amazon, I think I can get some into my res on the last day of flush.

 

[Stltoed]

Yeah it does sound like a breeze compared to this, I'm going to build a sink with an RO system in it in the basement near my tent, and then do something like what you're talking about. Probably at the end of this semester of class.
And yeah that would make sense, it won't do any harm if not and should still help. I have 2 day shipping with amazon, I think I can get some into my res on the last day of flush.

The float valve is the single coolest gizmo I have in my shed and it cost $14.95

 

[Logan Burke]

Hey Stl, do you think I should turn my CMH's off for the remainder of the flush and just let them take it easy under my 1kw HPS? Or should I leave all the lights on? I'd say with the CMH's also running my canopy temps run 76-79F. Without, it runs between 70-75F.

 

[Stltoed]

Hey Stl, do you think I should turn my CMH's off for the remainder of the flush and just let them take it easy under my 1kw HPS? Or should I leave all the lights on? I'd say with the CMH's also running my canopy temps run 76-79F. Without, it runs between 70-75F.

Hmmm. I'd leave the light. I will say that messing with lights in conjunction with other changes may bring about a hermie situation. I wouldnt worry about the heat until it gets over 85. When I had Black Dog lights they recommended temps at 80-85 because the plants metabolism will be higher. It sounds high, but it's really works.

I may have overdone the P and K a bit. I'm at 1250, but ONE plant (here we go again) is showing issues. If I dont see improvement (just did a nute change with different nutes) I'll take it down to 900 or so. God damn plants! Haha

 

[Logan Burke]

Oh no I hope you aren't having issues like I am haha, is it the same plant who responded real bad from the peroxide, or is this a different one? And oh lord, I had nanners on my last grow and it was a irritating and time consuming as hell to pick'em all off! So I'm definitely hoping I can avoid that lol.

 

[Stltoed]

Oh no I hope you aren't having issues like I am haha, is it the same plant who responded real bad from the peroxide, or is this a different one? And oh lord, I had nanners on my last grow and it was a irritating and time consuming as hell to pick'em all off! So I'm definitely hoping I can avoid that lol.

Different plant. I'm hoping to turn it around. It has the best trichome count. No nanners! Man that's got to suck. Kinda funny though. I never saw anything resembling balls on my last season but about a week after harvest I found a seed. WTF!? I've found probably 10 or 15 seeds since. It's kind of been a blessing... I dont need to buy anymore Strawberry Banana for a while

 

[Logan Burke]

Wtf that is crazy bizarre man...they weren't outdoor were they? I know that, albeit one in a million, pollen from male plants can travel a looong way via the wind. But otherwise I've not a clue man. And yeah but I was happy that they didn't full blown hermie on me with balls and all...just the nanners. It did require extra time everyday, but out of 2 plants I've found less than 3 seeds so I'll call that a win!

I would think that, just like with mine, some extra time in flowering and depending on severity maybe a flush would get her back on her feet. I'd say yours hasn't been overfed as chronically and long term as mine, so feel good about that.

 

[Stltoed]

Wtf that is crazy bizarre man...they weren't outdoor were they? I know that, albeit one in a million, pollen from male plants can travel a looong way via the wind. But otherwise I've not a clue man. And yeah but I was happy that they didn't full blown hermie on me with balls and all...just the nanners. It did require extra time everyday, but out of 2 plants I've found less than 3 seeds so I'll call that a win!

I would think that, just like with mine, some extra time in flowering and depending on severity maybe a flush would get her back on her feet. I'd say yours hasn't been overfed as chronically and long term as mine, so feel good about that.

Nope. No outdoor plants for me. I wish. I believe one plant, and I think I know which one, produced just enough pollen to make a few seeds. Maybe the pollen was under the scrog, just out of sight... again I never saw it. I'm sure if I gave it more time it would have been much worse. I guess i lucked out. Only 3 seeds ain't bad!

I'll take a look at it again in a few days. I got about 10 days till i start the finisher. If it never comes back, the buds will be small but of good quality. They are hard now, just very small

 

[Logan Burke]

Sounds like me and you are in the same boat, or at least in that particular plant's scenario. I'm hoping that this flush and 'reset' will buy them some extra time to bulk up though, and I hope that the same goes for yours as well! How long do you think it will take for mine's buds to start fattening again? Until the end of the flush or a couple days afterwards when they start recieving nutrients again?

 

[Fupaslayer]

Sounds like me and you are in the same boat, or at least in that particular plant's scenario. I'm hoping that this flush and 'reset' will buy them some extra time to bulk up though, and I hope that the same goes for yours as well! How long do you think it will take for mine's buds to start fattening again? Until the end of the flush or a couple days afterwards when they start recieving nutrients again?

IMO I think about a week to recover then it should get going. Do your flush then drop Ppms to about 1/2 strength then work your way back up slowly to where you feel is the sweet spot for your strain; so maybe about 10 -14 days before you see a good difference(these are just my assumptions though)

 

[Stltoed]

Sounds like me and you are in the same boat, or at least in that particular plant's scenario. I'm hoping that this flush and 'reset' will buy them some extra time to bulk up though, and I hope that the same goes for yours as well! How long do you think it will take for mine's buds to start fattening again? Until the end of the flush or a couple days afterwards when they start recieving nutrients again?

Honestly, I couldnt tell you. You'll see the tops fuzz out again and then some stacking, then you're off to the races... hopefully.

 

[Logan Burke]

Yeah I understand, seeing that there is no real definitive answers until it actually unfolds. As long as you all feel confident about this new game plan, I'm confident about it. My plants haven't even barely lightened up in color at all, so, there must be a good deal of nutrients stored up in those leaves. I've not PH'd the water though, it's staying in the 6.0-6.5ish area though. That should be fine right?

IMO I think about a week to recover then it should get going. Do your flush then drop Ppms to about 1/2 strength then work your way back up slowly to where you feel is the sweet spot for your strain; so maybe about 10 -14 days before you see a good difference(these are just my assumptions though)

Yeah I think that's how I'm going to approach it. Start below what I know they can take and work up until I find equilibrium in the PH and PPM's. Happy to have you and your perspective along for the ride buddy.