principlesarelife
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you'll get the hang of it, give yourself time. feel free to make bookmarks of websites, save pictures of charts & document your grow.. this hobby has all sorts of need-to-knows
Please help..(coco)
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principlesarelife
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i didn't need 5ml/gal of cal/mag until my seedling was 5 weeks into veg, from sprout
Helltownhero
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I get one answer from someone then a totally different answer from another....guess im just gonna have to trial amd error and see what works for me...then i will have a entirely differant method lolol
Helltownhero
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I will take all the info i can get and draw my own conclusion...thanks guys!!
Helltownhero
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As long as i dont kill the plants im cool lol...i will keep u all posted on progress...here is my set up
6 1000w hps for flower
Right now 2 600w mh for veg
3 ton split ac keeps it a perrrrfect 85.5 degrees 60% humidity
Im also running co2 @ 1250ppm
Stealth RO water filter..
2 45 gal rez
Right now im hand watering but will be setting up a drip system shortly
Room size is 12x12x9
Totally sealed
principlesarelife
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dude! that's an op! don't get busted! gee gollie willickers!
xtsho
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I never use CalMag even though I grow in coco. CalMag is only needed for some nutrient lines that don't already have adequete amounts in the base nutes. The nutes I use have calcium nitrate for the nitrogen source and that supplies all the calcium needed because it's 13% calcium. The micronutrient portion contains 2% magnesium. I never have any deficiencies. Many nutrient companies purposely leave things out of the base nutes so they can sell more products. That's why I don't buy cannabis specific products. There are plenty of non cannabis specific nutrients out there that are as good as anything targeted towards cannabis grows that don't require additional additives and cost significantly less. I use the same stuff I use in the garden, for houseplants, container flowers, etc... There is nothing special about cannabis. It will grow just fine using the same thing farmers and nursery growers use.
principlesarelife
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makes sense
what nutes do you use?
Helltownhero
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Yes please share the love..what nutes? Im using botanicare
Helltownhero
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What should i use for ml per gal here are my nutes
Botanicare
Pure blend grow
Pure blend tea
Cal mag
Liquid karma
Botanicare
Pure blend grow
Pure blend tea
Cal mag
Liquid karma
xtsho
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Nothing fancy. It's called VitaGrow. It's just three parts. One is calcium nitrate, the other a micronutrient blend, and another is monopotassium nitrate. I started using it years ago when I was doing flood and drain and had multiple reservoirs going. I had used GH, and then Botanicare but got tired of paying so much. I started using this and my grows got better and my wallet was happy. Been using it ever since. You can buy all the same stuff from any hydro supplier like Custom Hydro, Alpha Chemicals, etc... I just use VitaGrow because it's put out by Portland's oldest hydroponics store and it's right down the street. All they do is repackage it from larger quantities with a small markup. Which is fine because I don't mind paying a little more for smaller packages. I don't need 50 lb bags of stuff.
xtsho
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VitaGrow. It's just repackaged calcium nitrate, a micronutrient blend, and monopotassium phosphate. It has everything a plant needs to grow. I've used Botanicare before and it was OK but for the price you shouldn't have to buy anything else like CalMag. I don't understand why so many people can't see what a racket cannabis specific nutes are. The marketing and packaging costs are more than what the product inside costs these companies to make.
principlesarelife
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Helltownhero
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i learned very quick NOT to ask the grow shop anything..u will walk out of there atleast $300 lighter with shit u really do t need
Helltownhero
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Second grow lol
TintEastwood
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A method....
Starting with your RO water.
Regardless of rez size.
Add silica, if using it.
Check ppm.
Add calimagic....mix....until ppm is around 180.
Add your nutrients until the PPM reads the number you want.
Ph it to 6.0ish and fertigate them bishes.
Mix well between each!!
A consistent Ppm/Ec is best. Slow changes.....100ppm per chg
You got this. Coco meister
Starting with your RO water.
Regardless of rez size.
Add silica, if using it.
Check ppm.
Add calimagic....mix....until ppm is around 180.
Add your nutrients until the PPM reads the number you want.
Ph it to 6.0ish and fertigate them bishes.
Mix well between each!!
A consistent Ppm/Ec is best. Slow changes.....100ppm per chg
You got this. Coco meister
Helltownhero
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Thanks
Thanks bud..maybe u can help me with this.. I am in 7 gal pots my plants are 8" tops...i kno i shoulda veged em longer before transplanting...anyway...i wattered them till there was run off and pots are heavy...wen do i water again???...some say once a day.. even twice a day..however the pots still are heavy and i dont see such small plants drinking that much...ahould i wait till it dries up? Or juat water once a day?
TintEastwood
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https://www.cocoforcannabis.com/watering_coco/
For me, when young and surrounded by ocean of soil and water can be touchy.
I let them dry out until they almost, or do, actually start to go limp.
Then repeeet.
Unless you plan to grow 6ft trees, 3gallon fabrics are great. In coco you want the plant to become root bound to allow multi daily feedings during flower. Root rot becomes an issue with big pots that are not filled with roots in my experience.
They explain this stuff better than I.
For me, when young and surrounded by ocean of soil and water can be touchy.
I let them dry out until they almost, or do, actually start to go limp.
Then repeeet.
Unless you plan to grow 6ft trees, 3gallon fabrics are great. In coco you want the plant to become root bound to allow multi daily feedings during flower. Root rot becomes an issue with big pots that are not filled with roots in my experience.
They explain this stuff better than I.
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Helltownhero
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Thanks for your advice..i have found with cannabis every single person does thi ks different i just got the opposite advise u juat gave me on another forum haha..seems to be like that with everything...but hey why not give it a try...thanks again
Helltownhero
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Here is a pic..i kno the plants are to small for the pots so spare me the speech...but woth plants that small and pots that big im thinking its gonna be atleast 4 days before i water again..