Who do you think will win?

  • HLG

    Votes: 68 90.7%
  • HydroGrow

    Votes: 7 9.3%

  • Total voters
    75
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lukio

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The Amare line
The HGL line
The ILuminar line
The Dyna-Gro starter kit
All orders process through me, and not the main company. I am an affiliate.
Working on more.
Ah, cool - all the best with that, dude. If you didnt deal with HGL you wouldnt have to worry haha.
btw, i'm pretty sure a couple pages kept crashing on me, could also be my browser. you might want to look into it
 

Big Perm

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Ah, cool - all the best with that, dude. If you didnt deal with HGL you wouldnt have to worry haha.
btw, i'm pretty sure a couple pages kept crashing on me, could also be my browser. you might want to look into it
Thanks man. I'm still working on it.
 

PSUAGRO.

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Did I call it, or what.

My quote from another site just the other day:

White led grow light companies are already adding red to their white leds. Is it going to stop there? When will they add blue, and green and maybe get rid of white all together?
White led light is very efficient. It is replacing CFL and incandescent everywhere. I have white LED in just about my whole house. It works great, and it is WAY worth it to make the switch, imo.
For growing? Any light will work for growing. I don't think this is in question, or at least I hope it isn't.
My curiosity is in what are the plants using, and what are they not using? Get rid of what they are not using, if even by an experiment, and nothing scientific at all to back it up. It is still an interesting topic, for sure.
So, it looks like that is being done here. Is this tech working? Yes, yes it is. How, why, I don't know. I only know where, when, and who. I am watching it myself.
Is this the perfect spectrum? Maybe, maybe not. Is it working, and are we on to something here? It looks like it to me.
This company will even make a one off for a customer (most likely). So if you really dig the spec, but in your professional opinion you think it needs this or that, talk to them, get your special light, and try it out. Want white instead of green in there?....I can't answer that, but in the name of science, I can see it happening.
I know you're selling some china rebrand stuff but what exactly did you call?................heliospectra, illumitex, valoya , lumigro, clw,bml/fluence,plant photonics, etc; i can go on,on&on has been producing EFFICIENT heavy mono based commercial fixtures for over 8yrs.

You don't get it, we played with it ALL in here, this isn't icmag, 420, grass, whatever............white phosphor fixed spec gives you that "shotgun method" it works on most strains and performs well enough due to efficacy. It's an easier transition from hid and forgiving on the eyes/pest& def& fungal diagnosis/work conditions! big pro. This is coming from someone who hit 2gpw with 100% mono Osram zelion, top of the line when it came out $800 for 125w, lol, shit was crazy. Not worth it when I saw legitimate growers getting close with cxa/cxb cobs under more favorable conditions yrs ago...


How about you pony up for a sphere test for a couple of hundred bucks on the "new" hgl board, I can give you light lab recs? if you can't beat an ancient se 400w hps bulb/mag ballast (+/- 18%, nicks sphere) then you can send them to a warehouse party to repurpose where they belong: ) If you don't believe in ppf/w,umol/j you shouldn't be here tbh, no offense......
 
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Big Perm

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I know you're selling some china rebrand stuff
I'm not, actually. But everyone has their own opinions. If Alibaba clones are so popular and easy to get like people say, where are all of them? I mean if I can get a Fluence spider for $200 on Alibaba, take my money now!
but what exactly did you call?
White led grow light companies are already adding red to their white leds. Is it going to stop there? When will they add blue, and green and maybe get rid of white all together?
I posted this and the next day HLG releases all of their RGB stuff? That's what I felt like I called. ILuminar has RWG right now, and I'm standing here looking at it. It was a comment.
white phosphor fixed spec gives you that "shotgun method" it works on most strains and performs well enough due to efficacy.
I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm just seeing what the "sniper method" is all about.
This is coming from someone who hit 2gpw with 100% mono Osram zelion, top of the line when it came out $800 for 125w, lol, shit was crazy.
I would be honored to run along side you in the GPW competition, sir.
How about you pony up for a sphere test for a couple of hundred bucks on the "new" hgl board, I can give you light lab recs?
I just might do that. Not in the cards right now, but I'm not saying no. If you would like to collaborate an effort to get the readings, I would be more than happy to assist any way I can.
If you don't believe in ppf/w,umol/j you shouldn't be here tbh, no offense......
I never said I don't believe in it. I know I don't know shit about the science behind LED lighting technology. I'm not going to pretend I do. I don't have all of the testing equipment at this time, and I'm sorry for that. What I am providing is documented grows from someone that doesn't have a degree from I'mRight.com, and I can read and comprehend information quite well. I was a mechanic. I'm fully aware of horsepower stickers and hype. When I zip open my tent. I'm not seeing go fast stickers and hype.
 

Big Perm

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Amare has actually issued a challenge. Find a clone of a COB or Bar8 on Alibaba, and you get a free Bar-8.
 

Big Perm

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But you are happily selling drop shipping it? Why should anyone buy from you? What information can you provide?
I use my products. If I think it is a piece of shit, I will say it is a piece of shit and remove it from my store. Any items that can be bought on Ailibaba, or another place out of China, I will remove from my store immediately. I'm not peddling trinkets here. I'm working with other companies as well. I'm really close to having an at home THC CBD tester available. Trying to figure out pricing.
See, I'm not here to get rich. I don't envision retiring on a private island somewhere. I offer things that I can offer. Free shipping. That's actually a biggie. Do you know how much it costs to ship a Bar-8? Or care? I don't care either, I mean it is what it is, right? It's $400-600 to ship that beast. Throw a discount or something on there and guess what? I'm taking a loss.
I'm providing a service. If you don't want the service, I'm not making anyone use it.

You wanna try it out? See what it's all about? I'm laid back, man.
I'm the guy sitting at a side table sipping on a drink watching TV, not really giving a crap what everyone at the bar is saying about stuff. If anyone wants to come over and sit down, light up a J and chill. I'm right here watching tv.
 
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Ryante55

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You are grownup enough to know it didn't take them one day to produce.

Keep it classy.
Right like wtf hlg has been talking about doing that since before Cammie came back to sell her shit. Looks like perm is just a little shill now too
 

Ryante55

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Sorry, guess I was at the side table.
I had no idea they were working on RGB. Why all the back and forth over white light vs. RGB then?
Because output is more important no one is against a white enhanced spectrum. The reason that added reds are used now is because they are more efficient than a few years ago and the white diodes are alot cheaper. Even with the significant price cut hgl made they still don't compete. hlg has a ton more output they provide value which is much more important than a theoretical couple percent difference. Hlg isn't even the cheapest you can get the same output for less if you don't need any ul certification.
 

Ryante55

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Sorry, guess I was at the side table.
I had no idea they were working on RGB. Why all the back and forth over white light vs. RGB then?
Its not rgb they are working on they always make different supplemental strips for the diy guys. More companies should do the same
 

Big Perm

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Its not rgb they are working on they always make different supplemental strips for the diy guys. More companies should do the same
Other companies are.
I also plan on having plenty of DIY stuff. I'm a huge DIY guy myself, just not in making LED lights, but want to learn.
If there is anything anyone would like me to stock, or carry at a better price, please let me know and I will work on getting it.
 
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