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topcat

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I fear we are entering into another dark age. Frightening, yet fascinating how fast this can develop. Witnessing history before our eyes, before it's written.
 

TacoMac

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I fear we are entering into another dark age. Frightening, yet fascinating how fast this can develop. Witnessing history before our eyes, before it's written.
And long after we're dead, our descendants will look back on us the same way we look back at the inquisition, only it will be worse. Because they'll know we knew better.
 

Moldy

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I'm not 70, but getting there, maybe :)
I grew up in the 60's watching America's decline from a society where a family of five could have 3 kids, a stay at home mom and a dad that only needed 1 job to pay for 2 weeks vacation and college for their kids, and it was great (minus the Viet Nam war, assassinations and cities being burnt to the ground)
Of course that was when CEO's weren't the greedy cunts that they are now, they shared profits equitably and paid themselves reasonably.
Today that scenario is gone forever, and what we are witnessing today is the death spiral of the middle class (forget about the poor)
The people in power today, the bosses, the corporations and this present government for the most part has left morality and decency at the door, and it will end up destroying America, and that is a sad fucking fact.

My wife was a stay at home mom in 1969 with our first kid. I made $1.50 an hour with 4-5 hours overtime a week. We lived in a rented house and I drove a 58 chevy, had money for weed, food, and beer. I hadn't turned 21 yet. Johnson and Johnson was a helpful corporation then and we all remembered our last good president, Ike, a Republican that would be called a Democrat today.

Yep, those were the happy days.
 

squarepush3r

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I'm not 70, but getting there, maybe :)
I grew up in the 60's watching America's decline from a society where a family of five could have 3 kids, a stay at home mom and a dad that only needed 1 job to pay for 2 weeks vacation and college for their kids, and it was great (minus the Viet Nam war, assassinations and cities being burnt to the ground)
Of course that was when CEO's weren't the greedy cunts that they are now, they shared profits equitably and paid themselves reasonably.
Today that scenario is gone forever, and what we are witnessing today is the death spiral of the middle class (forget about the poor)
The people in power today, the bosses, the corporations and this present government for the most part has left morality and decency at the door, and it will end up destroying America, and that is a sad fucking fact.

that happened on your watch dingbag

I'm a man.
since when is soyboi considered a man?
 

topcat

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What the fuck is a dingbag? I've been called a lot but never that.
Oh, and what the fuck do you mean about "my watch".
Where were you during the last couple of decades, smoking dope and/or sucking dick (not that there's anything wrong with either :) )?
And "soyboi"? What the fuck is that? (he asked, rhetorically) No, I won't look it up, considering the source.
 

hotrodharley

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Memories of the last huge sweep:

“Cactus and surrounding Moore County have bounced back from the raid, and the plant today is once more thriving, shipping steaks to Walmart and hamburger meat to Burger King. But finding workers remains a perpetual struggle. JBS USA, a Brazilian conglomerate that now owns the plant, has raised starting wages nearly 25 percent in recent years, but like other meat processors across the country, it survived by finding a different set of foreigners to do jobs that used to be filled by illegal workers: refugees.”

https://www.texastribune.org/2018/03/05/even-after-ice-raid-few-american-workers-showed-work-texas-meatpacking/
 

hotrodharley

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Note this raid on a Swift plant was in 2006. Cactus has “bounced back”. Yeah okay. I lived right near there. There’s not enough lies to cover the truth. Businesses closed. Landlords now had shitloads of rentals available. Except for the fact that other than surrounding farms and ranches the only reason to live in Cactus was to work for Swift. Which whites are extremely adverse to. It took years and Swift being forced out. It took a FOREIGN CORPORATION to buy it and operate it.

12 years after the raid and still having trouble finding workers. Before? All Swift had to do was let employees know they needed more help and family and friends came from Mexico. Fully staffed plant. Cactus getting their money for the most part. Goddamn those illegals. Right?
 

Fogdog

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The pyramid scheme known as capitalism requires more people with more money in this unending cycle. It requires inflation. But just enough for the profit takers to be rewarded. Not so much the poor start causing trouble.
The status quo capitalist model that assumes ever-increasing demand by growing the population isn't sustainable. I'm sure I'm not telling you anything new here. The worst people are the ones who know this is true yet do all they can to prevent moving away from the status quo. Republicans especially Trumpers go one step further into the capitalist madness by insisting on cutting education, access to healthcare AND restricting population growth by immigration. It's possible to grow wealth and prosperity by other means such as education and investing in people's well being.
 

Fogdog

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Averaged over a decade from a high of over a million to a low now of 600k. Does it change my point though? I just saying that abortion is an extreme thing that is being used by dumb fcks who should be using condoms.
Oh god, THE BODY COUNT of those poor unborn babies. As if people who oppose abortion really care about healthy and well cared for children

Societies with legal abortion policies have lower rates of them. Said another way, that body count is higher in countries with illegal abortions AND women don't die during childbirth due to an unwanted pregnancy. Not only does access to medical services including abortion save lives but it recognizes that women have the same civil rights as men. I guess we differ because you plea to emotion and I'm stating facts. The facts say your should be pleading for open abortion laws if you really cared about people's wellbeing.

If you don't like abortions, don't have one. Yep, men should take ownership for their own behavior too, including using condoms.
 
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