New Zealands new gun buy back scheme.

[eddy600]

The problem with guns is that there are no laws governing them. There's a lot of wishful thinking, but that's about it.

Legal gun dealers have a hundred checks and balances they must follow and the vast, VAST majority of them do.

It's private sales. There are no rules. In nearly every state in the nation, there are no requirements at all on private sales. I can take my weapons carry license to about any gun store in the nation, buy anything I want without a background check, walk out the door and sell it all to anybody I want that even appears to be over 21 and it's all perfectly legal.

THAT is the problem. There should be a background check on every single sale, private or not. But that's why gun nuts and the NRA fight it: it would shut down their illegal sales, their income and their livelihoods...and that is the only thing on earth they care about.

I n California several LEO have been arrested for selling off roster guns without a FFL license.Here PPT transfer,gun show sales all have to go threw an FFL. The issue is prior to 1990 guns wore cash and carry no record of sale was kept.

 

[TacoMac]

Today, in all but 7 states, there are no regulations on private sales at all. None.

Now, under federal law you're not allowed to sell to anyone under 21 (handguns) or to anybody with a felony record. But here's the rub on that: You're not even required to ask.

So I could literally outfit a group of terrorist and as long as they don't tell me they're terrorist and I don't ask, it's all perfectly legal. Nobody can do a damn thing.

 

[hotrodharley]

I n California several LEO have been arrested for selling off roster guns without a FFL license.Here PPT transfer,gun show sales all have to go threw an FFL. The issue is prior to 1990 guns wore cash and carry no record of sale was kept.

Gun shows where I’ve been in multiple states no background check is needed at all ifor private sales.

 

[Budley Doright]

They say there are more than 3 million unregistered guns on the street in California. only the non criminals would turn in their guns. A knife acid in the face if they are removed people will adapt & use other weapons. I'm for enforcing our existing laws & keeping guns out of the hands of criminals,something that has been lacking nation wide.

But aren’t your existing laws kind of the issue?

 

[UncleBuck]

But aren’t your existing laws kind of the issue?

He’s even lying when he says he wants to enforce those

He’s a trumptard. All they ever do is lie

 

[eddy600]

Today, in all but 7 states, there are no regulations on private sales at all. None.

Now, under federal law you're not allowed to sell to anyone under 21 (handguns) or to anybody with a felony record. But here's the rub on that: You're not even required to ask.

So I could literally outfit a group of terrorist and as long as they don't tell me they're terrorist and I don't ask, it's all perfectly legal. Nobody can do a damn thing.

Your right there is a lack of oversight that could stop a lot of guns from getting into the wrong hands.

 

[eddy600]

But aren’t your existing laws kind of the issue?

It's the lack of enforcement that's the problem & millions of unregistered weapons on the streets that bring a premium price on the black market.

 

[UncleBuck]

It's the lack of enforcement that's the problem & millions of unregistered weapons on the streets that bring a premium price on the black market.

good thing you voted for the NRA stooge who rapes children then

non-stop lying. that's all you trumptards ever do

 

[schuylaar]

You didn't look hard enough. Every law is a threat of government using a gun against a person, even if the person is peaceful. Slaves aren't allowed to own guns, free people are.

My thought is "good people disobey bad laws".

trumpy says 'collateral damage' will happen as a result of 'roundups' tomorrow..if you're 'harboring'..you'll be deported too- a legal citizen.

is this 1938?

 

[Budley Doright]

It's the lack of enforcement that's the problem & millions of unregistered weapons on the streets that bring a premium price on the black market.

But if private sales that are anonymous. Are legal then is that not a problem?

 

[Fogdog]

They say there are more than 3 million unregistered guns on the street in California. only the non criminals would turn in their guns. A knife acid in the face if they are removed people will adapt & use other weapons. I'm for enforcing our existing laws & keeping guns out of the hands of criminals,something that has been lacking nation wide.

So guns are the problem then. From what you say, existing laws are either not being enforced or are insufficient.

Other countries with better gun control laws have very low rates of crimes that involve a gun. LOL the knife acid thing. That's a ridiculous argument against better gun control.

 

[Budley Doright]

So guns are the problem then. From what you say, existing laws are either not being enforced or are insufficient.

Other countries with better gun control laws have very low rates of crimes that involve a gun. LOL the knife acid thing. That's a ridiculous argument against better gun control.

Yup acid throwing is an epidemic here. I want a hand gun to protect myself from the acid throwing hordes. God help us all!!!

 

[UncleBuck]

Yup acid throwing is an epidemic here. I want a hand gun to protect myself from the acid throwing hordes. God help us all!!!

It’s a right wing racism signal to themselves

 

[hanimmal]

Yup acid throwing is an epidemic here. I want a hand gun to protect myself from the acid throwing hordes. God help us all!!!

Right, I can only imagine someone who gets snuck up and has acid tossed in their face, a gun suddenly in that persons hand might not work out the best.

 

[jungle666]

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/new-zealand-begins-first-gun-buyback-collection-after-christchurch-massacre/ar-AAEfHfV?ocid=spartanntp

"New Zealand has started the first of more than 250 gun buyback collections for banned military-style semi-automatic weapons in the wake of the Christchurch mosque massacres."

" MPs voted 119-1"

Looks like you’ve opened a can of worms here Luke

 

[Budley Doright]

Right, I can only imagine someone who gets snuck up and has acid tossed in their face, a gun suddenly in that persons hand might not work out the best.

Good point. Might be a few innocents killed while the persons eyes are burning and closed .

 

[Budley Doright]

Looks like you’ve opened a can of worms here Luke

Gun debate is a giant can of worms lol. That’s why fuck all gets done that has any effect. The politicians are bought and paid for by the gun lobby in the states.

 

[Lucky Luke]

Looks like you’ve opened a can of worms here Luke

I thought it might. Its an interesting article and its extremely interesting that the population is so supportive of the new laws, much like Australia was/is. Having firearms federally controlled like in Australia certainly helps with state to state issues that the Americans have. Not being compensated for ammunition handed in is a flaw but perhaps a small one considering the huge cost the buy back will cost.
All in all a good call for Ardern, politicly and socially. She is a well liked leader.

 

[Rob Roy]

So guns are the problem then. From what you say, existing laws are either not being enforced or are insufficient.

Other countries with better gun control laws have very low rates of crimes that involve a gun. LOL the knife acid thing. That's a ridiculous argument against better gun control.

If guns are the problem are you saying guns won't be used to enforce gun laws ?

 

[UncleBuck]

If guns are the problem are you saying guns won't be used to enforce gun laws ?

Probably just criminal penalties

Hey remind me about all of those people who you said would be imprisoned or murdered by the state for not complying with Obamacare