New Zealands new gun buy back scheme.

[Lucky Luke]

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/new-zealand-begins-first-gun-buyback-collection-after-christchurch-massacre/ar-AAEfHfV?ocid=spartanntp

"New Zealand has started the first of more than 250 gun buyback collections for banned military-style semi-automatic weapons in the wake of the Christchurch mosque massacres."

" MPs voted 119-1"

 

[hanimmal]

Good for them, only took one slaughtering of innocents for them to try to do something.

 

[jungle666]

Good for them, only took one slaughtering of innocents for them to try to do something.

Come on,we all know worth more than innocent lives

 

[hotrodharley]

Come on,we all know worth more than innocent lives

Use Google Translate to correctly translate from your native language.

 

[Budley Doright]

I haven’t read about it so know not the details. Toronto did that this year with limited success and found the majority of guns were old, nonfunctioning and they were also not anonymous so the guns that were in the hands of the criminals mostly stayed there. Certainly it all helps I’m sure, including harsher penalties. We are getting close to a complete handgun ban I think, which I’m okay with. Even though I am a firearm owner and would like to use a handgun in certain hunting situations it’s not a must have thing. The need to get them off the streets before it gets out of hand is the goal IMO.
Edit: assault rifles are already banned here.

 

[Rob Roy]

Good for them, only took one slaughtering of innocents for them to try to do something.

Circular reasoning is not sound. People are (thankfully) disobeying this inane legislative attempt to use guns of government to "end violence".

How does government threatening to use guns against peaceful law violators "end violence" ?

If you want to "do something" about violence, why would you codify it's use ?

 

[hanimmal]

How does government threatening to use guns against peaceful law violators "end violence" ?

I didn't see anything there about the government treating w guns things. The title just said buyback guns.

My thought was just at least those old guns don't just get handed down to some irresponsible grandkid.

 

[Rob Roy]

I didn't see anything there about the government treating w guns things. The title just said buyback guns.

My thought was just at least those old guns don't just get handed down to some irresponsible grandkid.

You didn't look hard enough. Every law is a threat of government using a gun against a person, even if the person is peaceful. Slaves aren't allowed to own guns, free people are.

My thought is "good people disobey bad laws".

 

[Chunky Stool]

I haven’t read about it so know not the details. Toronto did that this year with limited success and found the majority of guns were old, nonfunctioning and they were also not anonymous so the guns that were in the hands of the criminals mostly stayed there. Certainly it all helps I’m sure, including harsher penalties. We are getting close to a complete handgun ban I think, which I’m okay with. Even though I am a firearm owner and would like to use a handgun in certain hunting situations it’s not a must have thing. The need to get them off the streets before it gets out of hand is the goal IMO.
Edit: assault rifles are already banned here.

Gun violence is a complex problem that people on both sides desperately try to oversimplify.
I never wanted to carry a gun but ended up getting a license because my situation made it necessary. (And I've needed it -- more than once.)

How do legit guns get in the wrong hands?
Easy.
Car prowls around "safe" areas like bars, hospitals, etc. where it's illegal to carry.
Oops.

Regarding assault rifles, yes they are a problem but the real body count is with handguns.

And even criminals use guns for defense rather than to commit crimes. Unlawful possession of a firearm is only a class C felony, compared to selling drugs which is class B and much more serious.
Using a gun to commit a crime is almost always class A, which means maximum security. (22 hour isolation in county.)

Don't ask me how I know all this.
I'm not a criminal, but I've had to "associate" with plenty of them.
Long story.

I should write a book...

 

[Budley Doright]

Gun violence is a complex problem that people on both sides desperately try to oversimplify.
I never wanted to carry a gun but ended up getting a license because my situation made it necessary. (And I've needed it -- more than once.)

How do legit guns get in the wrong hands?
Easy.
Car prowls around "safe" areas like bars, hospitals, etc. where it's illegal to carry.
Oops.

Regarding assault rifles, yes they are a problem but the real body count is with handguns.

And even criminals use guns for defense rather than to commit crimes. Unlawful possession of a firearm is only a class C felony, compared to selling drugs which is class B and much more serious.
Using a gun to commit a crime is almost always class A, which means maximum security. (22 hour isolation in county.)

Don't ask me how I know all this.
I'm not a criminal, but I've had to "associate" with plenty of them.
Long story.

I should write a book...

Yes I’m not sure how I would feel if I lived in the states as I’m positive there is a bit more of an issue than here. 60 years old and the only thing a gun, when I’ve used it other than hunting, has been not needed and could have changed my life in a real bad way . And I was a criminal lol.

 

[eddy600]

I mexican carry a Kahr pm9 & keep a S&W 442 in my off hand pocket. It's the wild wild west out here in LA

 

[Budley Doright]

I mexican carry a Kahr pm9 & keep a S&W 442 in my off hand pocket. It's the wild wild west out here in LA

It’s too bad it has come to that .

 

[Fogdog]

I mexican carry a Kahr pm9 & keep a S&W 442 in my off hand pocket. It's the wild wild west out here in LA

because of guns

 

[eddy600]

because of guns

California is both the richest & poorest state in the country,just trying to protect myself & property. I'm in the life active AGK once you are in you never get out

 

[UncleBuck]

Circular reasoning is not sound. People are (thankfully) disobeying this inane legislative attempt to use guns of government to "end violence".

How does government threatening to use guns against peaceful law violators "end violence" ?

If you want to "do something" about violence, why would you codify it's use ?

Tell us about all the people who got thrown in prison or slaughtered by the state over Obamacare you retarded neo nazi pedophile

 

[UncleBuck]

It’s too bad it has come to that .

It hasn’t

I have lots of family all over the state. Not one of them has or has ever needed a gun

Oh and eddy600 is a trumptard. Treat anything he says as a lie because it probably is.

All trumptards ever do is lie. Or fuck kids

 

[Fogdog]

California is both the richest & poorest state in the country,just trying to protect myself & property. I'm in the life active AGK once you are in you never get out

Would it still be the Wild West if there were no guns on the street?

 

[TacoMac]

The problem with guns is that there are no laws governing them. There's a lot of wishful thinking, but that's about it.

Legal gun dealers have a hundred checks and balances they must follow and the vast, VAST majority of them do.

It's private sales. There are no rules. In nearly every state in the nation, there are no requirements at all on private sales. I can take my weapons carry license to about any gun store in the nation, buy anything I want without a background check, walk out the door and sell it all to anybody I want that even appears to be over 21 and it's all perfectly legal.

THAT is the problem. There should be a background check on every single sale, private or not. But that's why gun nuts and the NRA fight it: it would shut down their illegal sales, their income and their livelihoods...and that is the only thing on earth they care about.

 

[eddy600]

Would it still be the Wild West if there were no guns on the street?

They say there are more than 3 million unregistered guns on the street in California. only the non criminals would turn in their guns. A knife acid in the face if they are removed people will adapt & use other weapons. I'm for enforcing our existing laws & keeping guns out of the hands of criminals,something that has been lacking nation wide.

 

[hotrodharley]

Gun violence is a complex problem that people on both sides desperately try to oversimplify.
I never wanted to carry a gun but ended up getting a license because my situation made it necessary. (And I've needed it -- more than once.)

How do legit guns get in the wrong hands?
Easy.
Car prowls around "safe" areas like bars, hospitals, etc. where it's illegal to carry.
Oops.

Regarding assault rifles, yes they are a problem but the real body count is with handguns.

And even criminals use guns for defense rather than to commit crimes. Unlawful possession of a firearm is only a class C felony, compared to selling drugs which is class B and much more serious.
Using a gun to commit a crime is almost always class A, which means maximum security. (22 hour isolation in county.)

Don't ask me how I know all this.
I'm not a criminal, but I've had to "associate" with plenty of them.
Long story.

I should write a book...

Also check every plea bargain in cases involving firearms charges. A 3 year robbery with a gun gets you 13 years with the gun enhancement. But prosecutors routinely drop firearms charges unless someone died. It’s their biggest bargaining chip and they use it. Anyone not believing that is welcome to check themselves.