Majority Backs ‘Medicare for All’ Replacing Private Plans, if Preferred Providers Stay

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schuylaar

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Padawanbater2 said:
Reduced support for single-payer overcome by assurance that Americans would not lose their doctor and hospital

  • 55% of voters back a Medicare for All system that diminishes the role of private insurers if they retain access to their preferred providers.
  • Independents are 14 points more likely to back the system when told losing their private plan would not mean losing their doctor (42% to 56%).



Morning Consult

There goes that talking point..
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every doctor i know of takes Medicare- it's the GOLDEN PLAN STANDARD in SoFla..hospitals and doctors fall all over themselves for it. A patients stay in hospital is 2x longer than that of private plans it seems.

I had a dog bite last year which landed me in the hospital due to blood poisoning and was on my employers very generous private plan and got 4 days for almost losing my life- out of curiosity, I thought it was a bit soon by a day or two minimally and inquired because I have this great plan..I was told Medicare patients pay well and they get longer stays- even my Cadillac Plan is not as good as Medicare.

Go figure..because someone is lying about what Medicare does..do you think it was the hospital or Presidential Hopeful John Delaney (who says hospitals will go out of business if they only take Medicare)?
 
bartow

bartow

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UncleBuck said:
Oh, you’re one of these “cannabis cures everything, maaaaaaan!” hucksters
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What it is as that I know exactly what I am talking about with respect to politics and economics. I don't believe lies and that alone goes a long ways. You shouldn't try and attribute thoughts, notions and belief systems to someone who you don't know at all. Take what I said at face value and you will understand completely where I am coming from.
 
Fogdog

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schuylaar said:
every doctor i know of takes Medicare- it's the GOLDEN PLAN STANDARD in SoFla..hospitals and doctors fall all over themselves for it. A patients stay in hospital is 2x longer than that of private plans it seems.

I had a dog bite last year which landed me in the hospital due to blood poisoning and was on my employers very generous private plan and got 4 days for almost losing my life- out of curiosity, I thought it was a bit soon by a day or two minimally and inquired because I have this great plan..I was told Medicare patients pay well and they get longer stays- even my Cadillac Plan is not as good as Medicare.

Go figure..because someone is lying about what Medicare does..do you think it was the hospital or Presidential Hopeful John Delaney (who says hospitals will go out of business if they only take Medicare)?
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You aren't on Medicare and don't know what you are talking about. Medicare isn't "generous" about hospital stays. They discharge people on the assessment of their staff. Been through hospital stays with my Mom and while she was discharged into a nursing home and not into a void, the one time when I disagreed about the timing, it was clear they were making the decision, not I. The decision was based upon objective criteria, not some feeling of generosity.

Why do you Sanders people have to lie so much about his policies?

A strengthened ACA with the public option to buy into Medicare is the right policy for the day. Make Medicare the better option and private insurance will naturally disappear.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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bartow said:
What it is as that I know exactly what I am talking about with respect to politics and economics. I don't believe lies and that alone goes a long ways. You shouldn't try and attribute thoughts, notions and belief systems to someone who you don't know at all. Take what I said at face value and you will understand completely where I am coming from.
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I know your type well
 
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schuylaar

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abandonconflict said:
No point in this thread anyway. Bernie's plan won't happen even if Marriane Williamson conjures up an electoral college win to make Bernie president.

It has no chance of happening.
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why do WE NEED an electoral college any way? are we uneducated farmers with a 2nd grade education who needs help in understanding politics?

The Electoral College is a process, not a place. The founding fathers established it in the Constitution as a compromise between election of the President by a vote in Congress and election of the President by a popular vote of qualified citizens.

The Electoral College process consists of the selection of the electors, the meeting of the electors where they vote for President and Vice President, and the counting of the electoral votes by Congress.

and yet it's not by 'winner takes all' or 'popular vote' (above) as seen in WV in which Sanders won all 55 counties with Clinton taking the state..so how DOES that work, any way?:cuss:
 
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schuylaar

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Fogdog said:
You aren't on Medicare and don't know what you are talking about. Medicare isn't "generous" about hospital stays. They discharge people on the assessment of their staff. Been through hospital stays with my Mom and while she was discharged into a nursing home and not into a void, the one time when I disagreed about the timing, it was clear they were making the decision, not I. The decision was based upon objective criteria, not some feeling of generosity.

Why do you Sanders people have to lie so much about his policies?

A strengthened ACA with the public option to buy into Medicare is the right policy for the day. Make Medicare the better option and private insurance will naturally disappear.
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private insurance discharges patients on the assessment of their staff over the phone in another state..have your mother move to south florida- they're Medicare friendly and love, love it!

MedicAID is a notoriously slow payer (90-120 days) and very difficult to find a doctor to accept for this reason.
 
Unclebaldrick

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schuylaar said:
why do WE NEED an electoral college any way? are we uneducated farmers with a 2nd grade education who needs help in understanding politics?

The Electoral College is a process, not a place. The founding fathers established it in the Constitution as a compromise between election of the President by a vote in Congress and election of the President by a popular vote of qualified citizens.

The Electoral College process consists of the selection of the electors, the meeting of the electors where they vote for President and Vice President, and the counting of the electoral votes by Congress.

and yet it's not by 'winner takes all' or 'popular vote' (above) as seen in WV in which Sanders won all 55 counties with Clinton taking the state..so how DOES that work, any way?:cuss:
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It has been explained to you many times and you still don't get it? Wow.
 
Fogdog

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schuylaar said:
private insurance discharges patients on the assessment of their staff over the phone in another state..have your mother move to south florida- they're Medicare friendly and love, love it!

MedicAID is a notoriously slow payer (90-120 days) and very difficult to find a doctor to accept for this reason.
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You are dumb as a post. You just believe what you want. Private insurance - bad, Medicare - good

Medicare is a good deal, my Mom is well cared for. But the hospital isn't generous about hospital stays. The must follow guidelines. Guidelines regarding when a patient can or must be discharged from a hospital are the same regardless if its under ACA compliant private coverage or Medicare coverage.

Now you want to talk about Medicaid? OK, talk with somebody else about it. I'd rather talk to a post. Much smarter and more interesting.
 
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Fogdog

Fogdog

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schuylaar said:
why do WE NEED an electoral college any way? are we uneducated farmers with a 2nd grade education who needs help in understanding politics?

The Electoral College is a process, not a place. The founding fathers established it in the Constitution as a compromise between election of the President by a vote in Congress and election of the President by a popular vote of qualified citizens.

The Electoral College process consists of the selection of the electors, the meeting of the electors where they vote for President and Vice President, and the counting of the electoral votes by Congress.

and yet it's not by 'winner takes all' or 'popular vote' (above) as seen in WV in which Sanders won all 55 counties with Clinton taking the state..so how DOES that work, any way?:cuss:
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Bernie's plan won't happen because Bernie won't win the Democratic Primary because Bernie is a poor leader.
 
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schuylaar

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Fogdog said:
You are dumb as a post. You just believe what you want. Private insurance - bad, Medicare - good

Medicare is a good deal, my Mom is well cared for. But the hospital isn't generous about hospital stays. The must follow guidelines. Guidelines regarding when a patient can or must be discharged from a hospital are the same regardless if its under ACA compliant private coverage or Medicare coverage.

Now you want to talk about Medicaid? OK, talk with somebody else about it. I'd rather talk to a post. Much smarter and more interesting.
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i know Medicare is a good deal- thank you for the sig.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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schuylaar said:
i know Medicare is a good deal- thank you for the sig.
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Just putting it out there. Medicare AS IS is a good deal for the people in the plan. Bernie would screw it up but he won't because his plans are for shit, he's a poor leader and the electorate has had plenty of time to recognize his faults.

Strengthen the ACA, add the public option for people to buy into Medicare and make Medicare really, really good. In a very short time, the private insurance market will shrink to the point where it will be a non-factor. Bernie's plan that would force people into Medicare while doubling their health care cost is idiotic.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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UncleBuck said:
The barter system would fix all of this, right?

Retard
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My intended meaning was that @tangerinegreen555 was lamenting the high cost of drugs, and whining for the government to fix it.

What he didn't realize (evidently) was government caused the problem in the first place by virtue of creating a protected market for drug companies. Hence the supply and demand curve, which should be self explanatory.

I thought you, a jobs creator* would get the inference.


* janitorial jobs
 
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