Do you want to pay an extra $10,000 annually for Bernie's plan?

It's a generous benefits package but your old plan dies.

  • Yes, raise my taxes

    Votes: 4 28.6%

  • No, I want my private insurance.

    Votes: 10 71.4%
  • Total voters
    14
rkymtnman

rkymtnman

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How does Sanders continue to influence political policy under a Republican president controlled by a Republican Senate?

He hasn't pushed much through congress because congress is entirely right wing and corporatist,

you answer your own lies. well played.
 
tangerinegreen555

tangerinegreen555

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Padawanbater2 said:
He just raised $18 million from 50% new donors under $100. He has more than a million individual donors

He remains second in polling, behind Biden who has dropped more than 10 points since he's announced..

He's second behind a failing Biden and has more support on the ground than the next two candidates (Harris/Warren) combined
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And there's a 96.813% chance he'll lose again.

Harris and Warren are moving up and Bernie is sinking.

If that trend continues, Bernie will be belly up long before the convention.
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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rkymtnman said:
How does Sanders continue to influence political policy under a Republican president controlled by a Republican Senate?

He hasn't pushed much through congress because congress is entirely right wing and corporatist,

you answer your own lies. well played.
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Because the issues he shames opposition with are too embarrassing to fight, because the American people are 9/10 in favor of them, so they just succumb to the pressure without putting up the fight. Fighting it would cost millions of dollars.
 
abandonconflict

abandonconflict

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Padawanbater2 said:
He remains second in polling, behind Biden who has dropped more than 10 points since he's announced..

He's second behind a failing Biden and has more support on the ground than the next two candidates (Harris/Warren) combined
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No. He's fourth. If he continues slipping at this rate, he won't be in the July debates. That's how bad he is slipping. Deny reality all you want. Don't forget to post a link to your poll though so we call all continue ridiculing you.
 
Unclebaldrick

Unclebaldrick

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abandonconflict said:
No. He's fourth. If he continues slipping at this rate, he won't be in the July debates. That's how bad he is slipping. Deny reality all you want. Don't forget to post a link to your poll though so we call all continue ridiculing you.
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It is kind of mixed at this point depending on the poll. The one thing all of them show is Bernie dropping relative to the field - except Biden. For Biden to have dropped so far without Bernie gaining says a lot.
 
abandonconflict

abandonconflict

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Unclebaldrick said:
It is kind of mixed at this point depending on the poll. The one thing all of them show is Bernie dropping relative to the field - except Biden. For Biden to have dropped so far without Bernie gaining says a lot.
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Both the CNN and Quinniapac polls show him having dropped to fourth from before and after the debate.

The Quinniapac polls in particular paint a dire picture for Sanders. In just a week he dropped 6 points from 19% to 13% and significantly behind Warren. I'm just saying that if he continues to slip at this rate, if indeed the polls indicate meaningful stats then he should be worried. It is even possible that he won't make it to the next debate.
 
Unclebaldrick

Unclebaldrick

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abandonconflict said:
Both the CNN and Quinniapac polls show him having dropped to fourth from before and after the debate.

The Quinniapac polls in particular paint a dire picture for Sanders. In just a week he dropped 6 points from 19% to 13% and significantly behind Warren. I'm just saying that if he continues to slip at this rate, if indeed the polls indicate meaningful stats then he should be worried. It is even possible that he won't make it to the next debate.
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He has to be very worried. Even the most delusional of his supporters are worried - you can tell by their desperation, finger-pointing, cries for absolution if Trump gets re-elected and back biting of any candidate that isn't going down the tubes like St. Bernie is.

If only so many Democrats weren't biased against men.
 
abandonconflict

abandonconflict

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Unclebaldrick said:
He has to be very worried. Even the most delusional of his supporters are worried - you can tell by their desperation, finger-pointing, cries for absolution if Trump gets re-elected and back biting of any candidate that isn't going down the tubes like St. Bernie is.

If only so many Democrats weren't biased against men.
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It's almost like they don't want Harris to send Trump to the slammer
 
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MidwestGorilla219

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Padawanbater2 said:
Universal healthcare goes pretty much as planned in every other modern country on Earth, and the people in those countries support it
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Do some of those countries implement a 50%+ income tax to pay for it? If yes how is that cheaper and how many Americans especially the poor would not afford their car payments, house payments (or cutting other costs to afford those necessities)?
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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MidwestGorilla219 said:
Do some of those countries implement a 50%+ income tax to pay for it? If yes how is that cheaper and how many Americans especially the poor would not afford their car payments, house payments (or cutting other costs to afford those necessities)?
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Are you fucking slow like your autistic ritalin kid?

Our current system of health insurance is twice as expensive as the systems other countries use and gets worse results

Even if we implemented Bernie’s shitty plan we’d be saving a ton of money

God you’re slow
 
travisw

travisw

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Padawanbater2 said:
If Sanders is not influential, why is the entire Democratic platform of 2020 shaped after his 2016 campaign? Why did Amazon, Disney, Walmart, and many fast food establishments raise their wages to $15/hour after Sanders shamed them?

How does Sanders continue to influence political policy under a Republican president controlled by a Republican Senate?

You're swallowed the propaganda, despite the actual evidence
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The starting wage at Walmart is $9
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/11/walmart-to-boost-starting-wage-give-employees-bonus-after-tax-bill.html

Disney World starts at $10
https://www.orlandosentinel.com/business/tourism/os-disney-contract-wage-increase-20180827-story.html

Vermont/Minimum wage 10.78.
https://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/story/news/politics/government/2019/03/18/minimum-wage-what-would-15-hour-mean-vermont/3003658002/

Fast food restaurants

Burger King Corporation pays its employees an average of $8.76 an hour.
https://www.payscale.com/research/US/Employer=Burger_King_Corporation/Hourly_Rate

Taco Bell Corporation ranges from $9.26
https://www.payscale.com/research/US/Employer=Taco_Bell_Corporation/Hourly_Rate

McDonald's $9.48
https://www.payscale.com/research/US/Employer=McDonald's_Corporation/Hourly_Rate
 
squarepush3r

squarepush3r

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UncleBuck said:
Are you fucking slow like your autistic ritalin kid?

Our current system of health insurance is twice as expensive as the systems other countries use and gets worse results

Even if we implemented Bernie’s shitty plan we’d be saving a ton of money

God you’re slow
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nothing says efficiency, cost cutting and good service like "Government Agencies"
 
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