Humanrob
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Nice looking garden! There are a few variations of Black Cherry I've been curious about, I look forward to seeing how yours does.
Oregon outdoor 2019
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Backyard dirt
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13 days and ridiculously small but I didn't want a large plant. I have little doubt I will still get 12 oz. from this ACDC. Soil temps have been 50 and less in the mornings, a hard way to get root growth.
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Sir Napsalot
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I've got a Blackcherry Cheesecake clone in a 2gal. pot right now- it was the first strain I grew back in 2015 when it became legal for me to do so and is a wonderful smoke, I think you will like it!
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Tune420541
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Yea Im in oakridge Oregon and it's till to cold and rainy to put them out yet. I have 1 black cherry cheesecake and a cookies and chem
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Humanrob
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Here's another comparison... for unplanned reasons I ended out putting my starts into "potting soil" I got from a random Garden Center. Two of the four that were started that way were later moved into Fox Farms Ocean Forest soil. They all looked the same before two were transplanted, the picture is taken 3 days later and the difference is even bigger when you see them in person. I've tried to top dress the lesser soil a bit with worm castings, and this morning I hit them with a little ReCharge to try and liven them up. They don't drink much so waterings are few and far between, giving little chance to supplement them.
It's obvious that soil matters, this is the first time I've unintentionally demonstrated it to myself. In a previous post I attributed their being stunted to the cold weather, but now I see it was as much about bad soil as anything else. Next week the weather is supposed to become mostly sunny and they'll go outside and in the ground where they'll all be in similar soil to each other for the rest of their days. I've always used FFOF (or similar quality bagged soil) for indoor grows, but when my outdoor went from pots to the ground, I started to move towards my regular garden mix, combining better quality bagged soil with other 'garden' compost and soil mixes. Somehow this time without really thinking about it, I just started them in a random potting soil. Won't do that again.
It's obvious that soil matters, this is the first time I've unintentionally demonstrated it to myself. In a previous post I attributed their being stunted to the cold weather, but now I see it was as much about bad soil as anything else. Next week the weather is supposed to become mostly sunny and they'll go outside and in the ground where they'll all be in similar soil to each other for the rest of their days. I've always used FFOF (or similar quality bagged soil) for indoor grows, but when my outdoor went from pots to the ground, I started to move towards my regular garden mix, combining better quality bagged soil with other 'garden' compost and soil mixes. Somehow this time without really thinking about it, I just started them in a random potting soil. Won't do that again.
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Backyard dirt
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Cool temps and bum soil is a double whammy for autos. Do you have backup seeds? Your comparison is like the old tv commercials comparing the name brand to "brand x".
Humanrob
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I know what you mean, it crossed my mind to put in a disclaimer stating that I'm not affiliated with Fox Farms. There are a lot of decent pre-made soils, that's just one of them.
They're at a point where the ones in FFOF are really taking off, so the difference keeps getting bigger. If the two smaller ones don't turn around, when I put the strong ones in the ground I might just put two seeds directly into the other spots and see what happens. It would mean the first two would harvest in July, the second two in August. My outdoor autos averaged 10-12 weeks seed to harvest last summer.
Humanrob
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@graying.geek - how's the garden coming along? With your long veg time, your girls should have an awesome root system and the potential to get really big. Looks like more sun and some warmth this week, that should be a good thing for the garden.
I just put mine in the ground yesterday. This supposedly easy summer grow has turned into a multitude of unintentional experiments. It's about 3 weeks since they sprouted, and they are off to an incredibly slow start. The ones in bad soil basically froze and then started to fade, so I went ahead and put them in the ground since the others responded so quickly to better soil. It'll be a testament to their resilience if they survive. The other two are healthier but growing at a slow rate. My summer looks like it'll be an exercise in growing miniatures. My bug netting should arrive today, that's my one intentional experiment, I'll probably set up the hoops sometime this week. Here's some pics of my start (and one iris, been a great spring for those)
I just put mine in the ground yesterday. This supposedly easy summer grow has turned into a multitude of unintentional experiments. It's about 3 weeks since they sprouted, and they are off to an incredibly slow start. The ones in bad soil basically froze and then started to fade, so I went ahead and put them in the ground since the others responded so quickly to better soil. It'll be a testament to their resilience if they survive. The other two are healthier but growing at a slow rate. My summer looks like it'll be an exercise in growing miniatures. My bug netting should arrive today, that's my one intentional experiment, I'll probably set up the hoops sometime this week. Here's some pics of my start (and one iris, been a great spring for those)
graying.geek
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The girls are doing okay. I ended up being a bit too enthusiastic by putting them in the ground so early in May. Even though we were getting 14+ hrs of sun, one of the Durban Poison went into flower, which explains the excessive stretch it experienced during the first 2 weeks outdoor. It's now in a confused state of re-veging, so I lost a couple of weeks of early veg time on that one. None of the other plants, including a 2nd DP, show signs of flowering.
I've been impressed by the growth of the Jorge's Diamonds. I'm usually not one to be attracted to F1 hybrids because I like to produce my own fem seeds so I want something genetically stable, but the JD check all the boxes on cannabinoid profile, and it's developing into a nice, tall, bushy shrub with copious bud sites. If it finishes early enough, it'll probably end up being my go-to outdoor plant.
For my 4th plant, I chose to go with Medical OG Kush that's supposed to be a early finisher, instead of the R2 Skunk that I'd originally planned. It also seems to be a nice, bush plant, and I'm wanting to mix it in with the rest of my harvest to boost the CBD % to soothe my poor, old joints. It's about 3 weeks behind the other 3, so still < a foot.
Yup, it's been a slow couple of weeks, but the weather this week should produce a foliage explosion. I'll be interested to hear how your bug netting works out.: said:
Humanrob
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I haven't read about this recently so this is my not-so-great memory at work, but I think I've heard that it's a good idea to cut off the flowers that started and let the plant put its energy into new growth rather than creating the mutated growth that happens around it's trying to re-veg existing partial flowers? I'm sure there's good info around that somewhere on RIU, so I definitely suggest verifying that before you do anything -- and it seems that all "advice" can be specific to the situation, for instance how far along in flower it is before it switches back to veg may impact whether it's best to take action or just let the plant work it out.
Sounds like you do your research, that usually pays off. We invest a lot of time and money into this process, might as well stack the cards in our favor. There are so many variables between pheno variation and marketing claims vs. reality, that it often comes down to probabilities. I have found, for instance, that with Mephisto seeds I have a high likelihood that 90% of the seeds will produce quality flower, even if the final result does not match their description in terms of plant size, harvest output, or flavor. It must be hard from their point of view, since we are all growing in different circumstances and these are... well, plants.
I've had a tendency to go for "over shoot", and grow 50%(+/-) more than I need to account for the inevitable unforeseeable mishaps and underachievers, but I'd like to work towards a more confined, controlled, and manageable outcomes over time. I'll lose some of the fun of endless variety, but gain efficiency and predictability.
Funny thing, as I was typing the netting arrived. And it works out well, since I can't find any burlap and need something to cut the sunlight a bit while they harden. When I ordered this product, my plan was to have the girls much further apart (because of garden logistics and a tree stump...), so I got a really big net. As it turns out, the plants are much closer together. The big net is serving a purpose because I have it quadrupled over at the moment, later in the afternoon I'll just double it, and then by end of day tomorrow I can bring it back to just one layer. That should help them transition from cobs to sunlight.
I have tomato cages over them, if they stay as small as I suspect they will, that might hold up the netting and I won't need to even put up any hoops. I'll cross all the bridges as I get to them.
MustangStudFarm
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I was looking to add a suppressor to a .22LR for my zombie apocalypse rifle. The meth heads, uhhh zombies won't know what hit them...
Trickortreat18
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Stay outta Methford (Medford) and crack junction cave junction right? I live in GP
BlazinDucks
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well it's been about a month since I've put the 2 clones in the pots. They've filled out enough that I'm ready to drop them in the ground. I put five yards of new soil I picked up from a local place. It's called white lightning and it's done a great job with the tomatoes and other stuff in the garden. I dug out about 5 gallon holes to put a bag of FFoF in before I put the ladies in. I don't fully trust unknown dirt so I figured I'd put something I know well in around the main root zone. This is about the same time of year I've put them in the ground in the past, and I've always had amazing results in the height and harvest category. Looking forward to the next 4 months.
Loving the new garden!!!
Humanrob
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A little update on the netting... It's great to watch moths fly around the yard and not care. I'm thinking I could have a worm-free grow this year.
Nothing is perfect though, and the downside to keeping bugs out is trapping bugs in. I've got something eating the leaves in there, I haven't seen the actual bug doing it, but the damage is obvious. It's an outdoor so that happens, and normally I wouldn't sweat it, but whatever it is its eating the developing baby leaves too. The irony is that I could be blocking out the predator bugs that would eat the leaf eating bugs. I've put some lady bugs in there, not sure if they're doing anything. We'll see if the plant can grow faster than the pest can eat it, they're in a pretty rapid growth state at this point. This is a "no spray" experiment, so I'm going to let it run its course.
Nothing is perfect though, and the downside to keeping bugs out is trapping bugs in. I've got something eating the leaves in there, I haven't seen the actual bug doing it, but the damage is obvious. It's an outdoor so that happens, and normally I wouldn't sweat it, but whatever it is its eating the developing baby leaves too. The irony is that I could be blocking out the predator bugs that would eat the leaf eating bugs. I've put some lady bugs in there, not sure if they're doing anything. We'll see if the plant can grow faster than the pest can eat it, they're in a pretty rapid growth state at this point. This is a "no spray" experiment, so I'm going to let it run its course.
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graying.geek
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You've earned my envy for your beds and sunlight. Nice setup. Should be able to grow some monsters in there.
graying.geek
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Maybe a thorough application of neem before putting on the netting would help? But then, you said "no spray." The netting is a promising idea.
BlazinDucks
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Thanks. I've enjoyed the process of putting it all together. I wish I would've found this hobby earlier in life. Took until the mid 30s to latch on to a truly rewarding part of my life.
olaf687
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Hey guys im also live in southern oregon in cave Junction. Im growing my own stuff but got to wait till fall to harvest. Can anyone recomend a decent dispensary or farm that actually sells dank bud? Every dispensary I went so far is cut early and sometimes 1-2 years old. I was so pissed when I got here last year thinking I was gonna have access to dank bud. It pissed me off so much it forced me to grow my own and hopefully finish late lots of amber.
graying.geek
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With the amonut of surplus weed in the State right now, one would think the quality would be rising, but I haven't bought the stuff since I started growing so I can't give you any credible suggestions on sources. I would say that some growers pay for more extensive testing -- i.e. % of THC, THCV, CBD and CBN -- for their product, so as long as one can trust the labs, which I'm pretty confident one can, then I'd find dispensaries that carry strains with the combination of cannabinoid concentrations you want and go from there.
I am a bit confused as to your concern. When cured weed ages, the THC degrades to CBN, which I believe is part of the same process that takes place as trichomes go from cloudy to amber. So, if you're looking for the latter, I'd think 2 y/o weed would be what you'd prefer. Clarification?
graying.geek
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Hey, @Humanrob, since you do primarily autos outdoor, do you do any breeding? Any success generating seeds, or do you find a plethora of crappy phenotypes due to the hybridization with ruderalis genes? I'm thinking that I might try the auto Durban Poison, produce some fem pollen, and do a cross between 2 DP individuals to check the stability. Input anyone?