Is Gay Marriage Really That Big Deal?

[SilentMajority420]

Surprisingly, I have been paying attention in class, and what I've learned is this. Man + Woman = Marriage and Man + Man = Gay's who should be shot. I don't know about you, but that is some simple, basic, flat-out math right there. Who cares about all that other mumbo jumbo, just keep this marriage stuff between the Man and Woman, like it has been for thousands of years.

 

[MyGTO2007]

you know what........fuck that
fucking fags can get married and all that bullshit
AND I CANT SMOKE POT
BOY THIS COUNTRY IS FUCKED UP BAD
THATS SAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YOU WANNA Be A FAG, GO TO ANOTHER PLANET THEN
THATS FUCKING SICK
THIS FUCKING COUNTRY IS SO FUCKED UP....THATS THE LAST THING THEY SHOULD BE WORRING ABOUT IS CANNABIS, MY GOD GET YER PRIORITES IN A ROW!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[joepro]

mumbo jumbo and it's sick.

You two brainless morons are the reason this country is fucked up!

While I can't debate the very good reason of mumbo jumbo.sick, sick I can work with.

I personaly think it's a gross display.But if that should be used as a reason......
One could use the very same reason to why cannabis laws are the way they are.
No one can come up with a good reason when it comes to cannabis laws, but the church going powerful. These church goers are the very same people who also fight against gays. Making you, a cannabis user fighting the very same fight.

your freedom depends on the next guys freedom.

 

[CrackerJax]

ccodaine want to DICTATE social STANDARDS. That's like treading water in a whirlpool. It can be done but is highly dangerous and will end in tears.

Standards change. People are basically afraid of change. Hence the friction. This too shall pass, with or without your consent.

out.

 

[Seamaiden]

Surprisingly, I have been paying attention in class, and what I've learned is this. Man + Woman = Marriage and Man + Man = Gay's who should be shot. I don't know about you, but that is some simple, basic, flat-out math right there. Who cares about all that other mumbo jumbo, just keep this marriage stuff between the Man and Woman, like it has been for thousands of years.

Have you been paying attention to this whole thread, or did you just jump in to add that bit?

you know what........fuck that
fucking fags can get married and all that bullshit
AND I CANT SMOKE POT
BOY THIS COUNTRY IS FUCKED UP BAD
THATS SAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YOU WANNA Be A FAG, GO TO ANOTHER PLANET THEN
THATS FUCKING SICK
THIS FUCKING COUNTRY IS SO FUCKED UP....THATS THE LAST THING THEY SHOULD BE WORRING ABOUT IS CANNABIS, MY GOD GET YER PRIORITES IN A ROW!!!!!!!!!!!

Wholly shit. You two have done a fantastic job of proving my points very well.

 

[ccodiane]

I have this really naive idea, you should do yourself a faver and leave this thread alone. You have been pulling horse shit out of your ass for about 10 pages now.

You have NO answer.
That's all you have to say, not 10 pages of silly season.

So, your naive idea is I don't participate in this conversation because you don't like my position? You're right, that is naive.

My answer is this, Joe; get off this thread so that valid viewpoints are expressed without naive interjections.

 

[ccodiane]

ccodaine want to DICTATE social STANDARDS. That's like treading water in a whirlpool. It can be done but is highly dangerous and will end in tears.

Standards change. People are basically afraid of change. Hence the friction. This too shall pass, with or without your consent.

out.

Now I'm racist, sexist, and a tyrant, Kracker? Debate guru, you are not. Shit slinger?......now that's a label that fits you fine.

All social standards are dictated, by society.

As society changes, social standards change.

You probably think the 21st amendment is "horseshit". But the 18th is cool. Right?

 

[ccodiane]

Have you been paying attention to this whole thread, or did you just jump in to add that bit?

Wholly shit. You two have done a fantastic job of proving my points very well.

That's the only point you and yours have.

"Well looky there. I see bigotry. Something must be done, immediately. This goes against everything I believe. I know, GINSBURG!"

Except for those "privileged" "hapless white males", right? Bigotry is tolerable when it's yours. Otherwise, it must be squelched, by you personally; just another bigot.

 

[hom36rown]

youre an idiot, youre obviously the bigot...that is why you refuse to tell us why you personally are against equal rights for gays....because you know you will sound like a bigot.

 

[ccodiane]

youre an idiot, youre obviously the bigot...that is why you refuse to tell us why you personally are against equal rights for gays....because you know you will sound like a bigot.

Marriage isn't a right; it's a privilege. Just like you getting your welfare check every month. You have to meet the criteria; lazy, in your case.

 

[hom36rown]

*sigh*....so why should heterosexuals have privileges homoesexuals dont...they shouldnt

 

[ccodiane]

*sigh*....so why should heterosexuals have privileges homoesexuals dont...they shouldnt

Because it was voted on and is law. The criteria can change when voters say the criteria can change. They have in three states. Many more have approved civil unions. *sigh*

You're extremely ignorant. I'm going to ignore you now. I'll still read your posts, as they are informative, but won't respond to your machine gun questioning. You need to ponder what has been said before you ask the next question, (or don't); for future debates, friend.

 

[hom36rown]

that still doesnt answer why YOU think heterosexuals should have special privileges, you have been desparately dodging this question for 10 pages now!

why do you think heterosexuals should have special "privileges" homos shouldnt...whats your big beef with homos being able to have next of kin, being able to visit each other in the hospital, have joint custody of a child etc...

Why do you think "homos" should have special privileges that mere platonic friends shouldn't?

....just answer the question, whats the big deal with homos having next of kin, being able to visit each other in the hospital, joint custody etc...

Composite U.S. Demographics

5. 1.51% of the total U.S. population identifies themselves as gay, lesbian or bisexual, or 4.3 total million Americans. These numbers are based on figures provided by a broad-based coalition of gay rights organizations and homosexual advocacy groups. The primary source cited was the The National Health and Social Life Survey (NHSLS), published in the book The Social Organization of Sex: Sexual Practices in the United States (1994), by Laumann, Gagnon, Michael and Michaels.

so then you cant answer the question?

Nope.........you're over my head, friend.

Why should heterosexuals have special privileges that homosexuals shouldnt?
quit dodging the question, its pretty simple

Why should white males be truly discriminated against under "affirmative" action?

Why cant you answer the question?

What was the question?

Ok, youve been dodging the question for 3 pages now, I guess you dont have an answer...

Nope......you're over my head.

even if denying gays the right to marriage was constitutional, which it isnt....why would YOU, personally, vote against gays being able to marry....how would that in anyway affect your life...answer: youre a homophobe

Oh............................

do you have different answer...no

can you please articulate why you think allowing gay unions to have equal benefits would be a bad thing...No you cant, because you dont have a good reason

Right after you explain to me why you can't marry your mother. You love her, right?

People cant marry their mother because it is illegal..there I answered your question, now.... why do you think allowing gay unions to have equal benefits would be a bad thing?

Because voters have deemed it illegal. Except in the states where voters have deemed it legal.

ok so if it came up for a vote, wouuld you vote against it(equal rights for gay unions that is), if so why?

Yes. To hinder the movement that individuals like yourself are apart of. The socialist movement.

you dont have an answer...to stop socialism, ok thats stupid and has nothing to do with anything...I am asking what you personally have against homose havin the same benefits at straight people and youve yet to come up with an answer

“God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference.”

so what do you have against those lesbos, why should they not have the same benefits that you and your wife recieve

So, using the same logic, if you were around in the 20's you would have favored a national ban on alcohol. That's the way to go to decide socially accepted practices, right? National intervention.

It's about the right to dictate social standards. As voters.

So you would vote against gays having equal rights, because it is your right to do so...that doesnt really answer much of anything....WHY WOULD YOU VOTE AGAINST IT, not why do you think there should be a vote on it....

You three (four) (five) (six) bricks just don't (can't?) get it. It's not about what I think, it's about what we think, collectively. We live in a society governed by "We the People". Laws give order to our lives, and our society. Laws are implemented by imperfect human beings, you and me. Reality, fellas.

Did you see the bit on the 19th Amendment. You see how that worked? States gave women the right to vote, and hold office, long before they had the right, nationally, to vote. The feds followed suit.

This is how the republic was meant to work. The states are experiment stations which will adjust to the whims of the population of each state. The eventual result of these 50 experiment stations will be a national law, or a Constitutional Amendment, implemented on the basis of what has been shown to work, in the states, and what is socially acceptable, nationally, extrapolated from the states examples.

You dunces get caught up in, "Your this and I'm that". Your relatively dull individuals, and I'm not. Despite that fact, we still all should get a say. "Homos" and "lesbos" included.

and once again, you dodge the question

youre an idiot, youre obviously the bigot...that is why you refuse to tell us why you personally are against equal rights for gays....because you know you will sound like a bigot.

Marriage isn't a right; it's a privilege. Just like you getting your welfare check every month. You have to meet the criteria; lazy, in your case.

 

[ccodiane]

Yes. To hinder the movement that individuals like yourself are apart of. The socialist movement.

So I answered the question?

Naive and ignorant still stand.

 

[ccodiane]

"I do not seek the ignorant; the ignorant seek me -- I will instruct them. I ask nothing but sincerity. If they come out of habit, they become tiresome."

--I Ching

 

[misshestermoffitt]

Coo Coo doesn't agree with anything that doesn't fit into this tiny little dictatorship cookie cutter mold. It's black and white with him, there are no shades of gray. Someone with a sphincter that tight will eventually explode, it's just a matter of time.

 

[hom36rown]

So I answered the question?

Naive and ignorant still stand.

that didnt answer shit, face it dude youre a bigot...

 

[ccodiane]

So you are a hardcore republican. pro life, no choice. Church and state together. no gay marriages

Bigotry surrounds us, friend; to be human, is to be bigoted......but you already knew that. "Everything must go in its little box."

 

[joepro]

Bigotry surrounds us, friend; to be human, is to be bigoted......but you already knew that. "Everything must go in its little box."

You running for office or selling used cars?
.


..nono your a tap dancer who sells wolf tickets

 

[Bongulator]

I'm personally not just not anti-gay, I'm PRO-gay, especially gay guys. Why? Well, every time I see two gay guys, I think, "Well, there's two dudes right there that aren't going to be competing with me for the women." It's supply and demand -- the fewer straight dudes there are, the higher my value is to straight women.