Ethos Banana Hammock comparative(exodus thread)

Moabfighter

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Beach bummmm !
Nice. Throw my beach shot up in about 90 miles. St Augustine Florida bound fuckers!

Can’t wait for that BBQ tomorrow Iceman. Split the main bill whatever and I’ll put all our brews on my bill.

Had to pinch some of your samples this weekend. Sorry :/
 

Or_Gro

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iceman2494

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Nice. Throw my beach shot up in about 90 miles. St Augustine Florida bound fuckers!

Can’t wait for that BBQ tomorrow Iceman. Split the main bill whatever and I’ll put all our brews on my bill.

Had to pinch some of your samples this weekend. Sorry :/
lol don’t say that . I can drink like no other. When I get back home I’ll order one . I had one and dropped it
 

Or_Gro

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Here’s tbones topping info. This was a few years ago though so his stance may have changed I don’t know.

Growing in an indoor environment you have to sculpt your plant to it's surroundings to get the most yield. The scrog is the evolution of the topping and sea of green methods. Indoors to get the most gram per watt / per square foot you want a top sitting in the ideal spot for the light in every square inch of the room. This will never be done without topping the plant. The second part of that is training. You have to top and train. It's not enough just to top. That's where scrogs and supercropping come in.

I grew my first GDP crop only topping one plant the rest were straight up stalks. This second crop I've topped about 3 times each plant.

When you top is really important as well. You want to work the first top in as early as you can so you have a big fork way down on the plant you can start spreading apart. I also used strings to pull the tallest tops off to the side. This allows the middle of the plant to catch up to the outside. The smaller of the two is almost perfectly trained. The other has some tops outgrowing some. These are two phenotypes of GDP one is a stout short tight noded indica dominant the other is more stretchy and a much more voracious grower. I'll probably dump the small genetics. The bigger one is also more colorful. I have 10 tops on the small plant and 12-16 on the big one. I'm hoping for at least 50% more yield than last crop. I also have 50% more light and 50% more nutrients so that should help. =)
He’s starting to learn about the power of manifold plumbing and flat top....

Scrog is great for maximizing horizontal coverage (2d) ....but not 3d space....my current opinion is that manifold with 16-20 tops will maximize yield in 3d...
 

Moabfighter

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He’s starting to learn about the power of manifold plumbing and flat top....

Scrog is great for maximizing horizontal coverage (2d) ....but not 3d space....my current opinion is that manifold with 16-20 tops will maximize yield in 3d...
That’s what I’m doing then. Played around with a mainline/manifold on an auto..... and not to toot my horn i swear, but I nailed the shape and symmetry and “only top colas”. It straight up worked. Just it being an auto the yield wasn’t quite there..... hang on I wanna show it off. Kinda cool.
 

Moabfighter

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Principle was spot on. Execution..... could’ve been better. My topping actually was a Fim and gave me three “mains” so that threw me for a loop Also has to get all my topping in within 21 days. Bitch would have a speck of a new top and I’d pinch it out.
 

Moabfighter

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Downside to these straight shooters.... never inhaled so much Scooby snacks in my life as I have the last week. Just puked from that stupid shit
 

Or_Gro

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That’s what I’m doing then. Played around with a mainline/manifold on an auto..... and not to toot my horn i swear, but I nailed the shape and symmetry and “only top colas”. It straight up worked. Just it being an auto the yield wasn’t quite there..... hang on I wanna show it off. Kinda cool.
Look at the two grows in my signature:

first has four plants in 4x4, each with 8-main manifold, pulled tops of each main out to perimeter, let 2 fastest bottom laterals grow to even top w main tops, cut other laterals off, —- > 16-20 primary colas —- > 3.8 lbs dry

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Second has same number of plants in same tent, under same exact setup, including lights & process.

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8-mains per plant plus 4-5 laterals and trained to bring up another 20-30 other tops...not all dry yet, but lookin like will be 75% or less of 1st grow...my conclusion is maximizing horizontal is fine, but maximizing 3d needs to be the yield target.

When tops are too close, you lose out on yield, just like if there is too much unused space; plus i suspect, a manifold is more efficient at it’s job than the tangled mess of stems on a scrogg...

As i’ve mentioned before, separate the primary benefits of a manifold (better plumbing system, spreading apical dominance/even tops) from how you train the tops. The goal is to achieve the appropriate number of tops for your lights, which balances number of tops and space between them.

Nugbuckets was all about pretty mainlined colas...that's nice for photography, but sucks for yield...part of the reason, he’s no longer here, where he started...
 
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BigOleNugs19

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Hey @Or_Gro
I am in the middle of hooking up my qb96s just like you do I am pretty sure. 4 of them, 2 per 320h driver. Running them in parallel, could you show me how you did yours? I am trying to keep the boards disconnected from the frames so I can slide them back and forth and I am gonna mount my drivers to the wall by the outlet about 10' from where the tent is. I have 3-port and 4-port wago connectors, the 18g solid core wire. Just wanna see what you did with them so I can have a good image of what I should do. Thanks in advance!
 

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Or_Gro

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Downside to these straight shooters.... never inhaled so much Scooby snacks in my life as I have the last week. Just puked from that stupid shit
I’ve got a pretty good vacuum...didn’t get any...whole bud or finely ground...i prefer to pack tight, so maybe that helps with sticky weed...
 
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