Ethos Banana Hammock comparative(exodus thread)

Smokexbreak

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@3rd Monkey

Hempys starting to show issues.

Temps have been at 80 F and RH had been at 45 the past three days.

Most of these issues started mid to upper plant.

So I flushed with plain 6.0 water and my run off PH was 6.7 on all three plants.

After the flush I sent nutes in at 6.0 and the run off was at 6.2 for all three plants.

I think it’s calmag on all three but on purple majik #2 it looks like a boron deficiency as well. Figured out my reservoirs were high on PH for a bit which would have been outta boron’s uptake range. Just wanting your opinion am I on the right track? I’ve got my PH back in range after a flush.

What was it about the high end LED’s making plants want more calmag? You were talking about it on GC if I recall.

Purple majik #1
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Purple majik #2
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Pillow Factory
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Moabfighter

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Moab must be killin at work . Haven’t seen him on all day .
Chainsawing like a son of a bitch. God damn I hate chainsawing. Trying to get out of my groundsman book so I can start getting in the bucket trimming. My foreman and i hangout a lot and he’s the bucket foreman so he wants to keep me on his crew.
 

Moabfighter

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Have my plant 5ml of botanicare veg pro. And .6ml of mammoth p per the bottle. Hydroguard ph etc.

137ppm 5.8ph. Light meter should be here tomorrow I hope my plant is okay. Still looks like fog shit.
 

Or_Gro

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Since my BH is still super tiny and all you guys talked about mainlining a bit today, I figuredI would share my triple cheese thats in the middle of building its manifold. I am waiting for a little more growth before I do the final cut. Im doing much better this time around.
Beautiful dude!
 

iceman2494

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Was reading a little before I clock in . Says could be from heat in tents to plants uptaking more water or evaporate which makes the nutes concentration higher which makes ppm go up .my ph has been at 5.9-6.0 past couple days .
 

Or_Gro

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If you get a minute will you take a look at the hempy post I made last evening shouldn’t be too many posts back. I need a second opinion on if I’m on the right track
No prob on the time...

but i’m the worst person to discuss nute deficiencies....i know zero...you know more than i do on this.

I see three issues, the brown spots, the discoloration, the drooping....

The only value i can add is that you have a major rh problem.. which i have learned: causes drooping and nute deficiency/lockout issues....basically the stomates on your leaves are stressed out severely, they control the pumping of vapor/liquid in the plant, they aren’t working propeely...you need to fix this, for sure...try to understand and start using proper VPD:

http://www.just4growers.com/stream/temperature-humidity-and-c02/vapor-pressure-deficit-the-hidden-force-on-your-plants.aspx

I’m sure 3rd monkey or S2C can help on the specific nute issues.

Lastly, make sure your ppfd on the tops is no higher than 600 in veg....
 

schmebulock

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No prob on the time...

but i’m the worst person to disvuss nute deficiencies....i know zero...you know more than i do on this.

I see three issues, the brown spots, the discoloration, the drooping....

The only value i can add is that you have a major rh problem.. which i have learned: causes drooping and nute deficiency/lockout issues....you need to fix this, for sure...try to understand and start using proper VPD:

http://www.just4growers.com/stream/temperature-humidity-and-c02/vapor-pressure-deficit-the-hidden-force-on-your-plants.aspx

I’m sure 3rd monkey or S2C can helpon the specific nute issues.

Lastly, make sure your ppfd on the tops is no higher than 600 in veg....
VPD is my current struggle as well - my main humidifier for the room sits outside the tents - the CMH light is just so damn hot it makes it near impossible to get VPD right. I have actually thought about opening part of the door to my 2x2 and letting more air in to cool the tent more - i'm still exceeding 80 at times.
 

3rd Monkey

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@3rd Monkey

Hempys starting to show issues.

Temps have been at 80 F and RH had been at 45 the past three days.

Most of these issues started mid to upper plant.

So I flushed with plain 6.0 water and my run off PH was 6.7 on all three plants.

After the flush I sent nutes in at 6.0 and the run off was at 6.2 for all three plants.

I think it’s calmag on all three but on purple majik #2 it looks like a boron deficiency as well. Figured out my reservoirs were high on PH for a bit which would have been outta boron’s uptake range. Just wanting your opinion am I on the right track? I’ve got my PH back in range after a flush.

What was it about the high end LED’s making plants want more calmag? You were talking about it on GC if I recall.

Purple majik #1
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Purple majik #2
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Pillow Factory
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Your VPD is off, that's what we were talking about. You should try for 55-60% humidity if you can. The stomata are triggered by the blue spectrum to stay open, which will draw more from your res. If the ph is off, lockout. If you don't have enough micros to support their drinking habit, deficiency. If they go too long and pound water, toxicity.

Any medium under those rocks?

MC and RO water? Have you given it any calmag?

Most of what I see is ph related, other than the definite calmag issue, which could still be your ph. That's why you have some twisting on some leaves. Most of that spotting is probably magnesium, more so than calcium, but they run together, so you made the right call on the flush and ph reset.

As far as boron def, looks more like zinc to me. With RO water, it's easy to skimp on micros, so doesn't matter so much which it is, long as you get the ph straightened out.
 
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