Trump's Wag the Dog Moment; Syrian chemical attack was a false flag!

[ttystikk]

Actually they couldn't get it done because they did not have a filibuster proof majority for a universal health care plan. You keep forgetting that some Democrats come from districts that oppose it.

The ACA was progress and a bridge to universal healthcare. If leadership had pushed a plan like Bernie's it would have gone down in flames and no progress would have been made.

You love to bash Bernie's outline. It wasn't ever meant to be anything more than a framework for discussion.

That you continue to be so dishonest like this tells me that you aren't interested in opposing views.

 

[Fogdog]

You love to bash Bernie's outline. It wasn't ever meant to be anything more than a framework for discussion.

That you continue to be so dishonest like this tells me that you aren't interested in opposing views.

Bernie's plan would force 60 million people who like their current coverage into Medicare. Do you not understand what that would mean in a close election? Would you prefer to cede control of Congress but push a plan that is ideologically pure to you even if it has no chance of seeing the light of day in a GOP congress?

 

[ttystikk]

Bernie's plan would force 60 million people who like their current coverage into Medicare. Do you not understand what that would mean in a close election? Would you prefer to cede control of Congress but push a plan that is ideologically pure to you even if it has no chance of seeing the light of day in a GOP congress?

Soooooo there's no way to make Medicare better?

 

[Fogdog]

Soooooo there's no way to make Medicare better?

You don't get it do you?

Bernie's bill has nothing in it that includes changing Medicare. You are pushing Bernie's bill, not something else.

Sooooooooo, you don't like Bernie's plan?

 

[Justin-case]

The fact that you think America is a democracy proves how misinformed and delusional you are.

It's clear that there is nothing to be gained in the attempt to discuss any of this with you.

At this point I'm convinced you use this as an aexcuse not to get a job.

 

[Justin-case]

If Democrats are in charge there will be no meaningful healthcare reform.

There will be no defense rollback.

There will be no peace.

So what's the difference between that and another Republican? There will be more activism under a Republican president because too many Americans are still fooled into thinking the Democrats are a better alternative.

But they are...

 

[Fogdog]

... And herr Chumpster Fuhrer fell for it, hook, line and sinker!

Think for just a moment; Bashar Al Assad is WINNING, so why the fuck would he use chemical weapons, especially against civilians?

Answer; he wouldn't; but the rebels, who are desperate for someone to come save them, certainly would, while making sure that footage leaked immediately in order to provoke a brash, impulsive and neophyte leader into premature action. Fucking brilliant.

https://consortiumnews.com/2017/04/07/trumps-wag-the-dog-moment/

The question of "why would Assad use those weapons when he is WINNING!" is valid, the question remains after study after study conclude that he did. One can only speculate why, I speculate it was because it drove his opposition out of cities and caused fearful retreat by the civilians who were otherwise dug in. Still the the absence knowing the motive is not proof of innocence. Probably the last and most definitive work to study these atrocities say he did. 98% of the attacks were by Assad's forces and 2% were by the Islamic State. Assad did it. Logical fallacies can't remove that fact.

https://www.npr.org/2019/02/17/695545252/more-than-300-chemical-attacks-launched-during-syrian-civil-war-study-says

More Than 300 Chemical Attacks Launched During Syrian Civil War, Study Says
"It is clear that the Syrian military has consistently prioritized striking population centers over rebel positions on the front lines, even in the face of defeat on the ground," they write.

Let's just wrap this up with a hearty laugh at the people who were so taken in by this false conspiracy theory.

 

[ttystikk]

Here's the story that ran in the WaPo about what Assad really did with his chemical weapons stockpile.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2014/08/18/declared-syrian-chemical-weapon-stockpile-now-completely-destroyed/?utm_term=.81000259362b

Here's a retired CIA analyst talking about the whole chemical weapons situation in Syria and how Obama almost got suckered by FALSE FLAG 'chemical weapons' attacks.

All dumb motherfuckers on this site who screamed about how I was stupid may now have a full double helping of crow, on the house.

When will you ever learn not to take anything the American Federal Government has to say on foreign wars at face value?

 

[Unclebaldrick]

Look everybody! Tty used the internet to find something to support his preconceived Russian propaganda ideas. Don't we feel stupid now?

Did we even watch the video?

We should all believe him because Tty does his homework! (Lol)

TTY KEEPS TELLING US!!!

 

[Fogdog]

I remember this thread. It was when I first learned how susceptible tty is to falling for fake conspiracy theories.

 

[Fogdog]

Here's the story that ran in the WaPo about what Assad really did with his chemical weapons stockpile.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2014/08/18/declared-syrian-chemical-weapon-stockpile-now-completely-destroyed/?utm_term=.81000259362b

Here's a retired CIA analyst talking about the whole chemical weapons situation in Syria and how Obama almost got suckered by FALSE FLAG 'chemical weapons' attacks.

All dumb motherfuckers on this site who screamed about how I was stupid may now have a full double helping of crow, on the house.

When will you ever learn not to take anything the American Federal Government has to say on foreign wars at face value?

Did you read that article you linked to?

It contained this line:

Kerry said there are still “discrepancies and omissions related to Syria’s chemical weapons declaration.”

 

[ttystikk]

Look everybody! Tty used the internet to find something to support his preconceived Russian propaganda ideas. Don't we feel stupid now?

Did we even watch the video?

We should all believe him because Tty does his homework! (Lol)

TTY KEEPS TELLING US!!!

Oh look, you said... nothing whatsoever.

You're an authority on that, for sure.

 

[ttystikk]

Did you read that article you linked to?

It contained this line:

Kerry said there are still “discrepancies and omissions related to Syria’s chemical weapons declaration.”

Cling to your naive belief that everyone with a D behind their name always tells the whole, unvarnished truth.

The rest of us will keep laughing at you.

 

[Fogdog]

Cling to your naive belief that everyone with a D behind their name always tells the whole, unvarnished truth.

The rest of us will keep laughing at you.

Kerry said there are still “discrepancies and omissions related to Syria’s chemical weapons declaration.”

You didn't know that, did you?

 

[ttystikk]

Kerry said there are still “discrepancies and omissions related to Syria’s chemical weapons declaration.”

You didn't know that, did you?

You didn't watch the video. The guy who was there explained it. But I'm well aware that you'd rather wallow in blissful ignorance.

 

[Fogdog]

You didn't watch the video. The guy who was there explained it. But I'm well aware that you'd rather wallow in blissful ignorance.

I don't listen to second hand youtube videos. Especially not ones that you post. That one reeked of propaganda from the moment it started. I didn't make it past the title screen.

The report that cited the government official quite clearly indicated they hadn't gotten it all. It was hardly the proof you seemed to think it was. Do better.

 

[ttystikk]

I don't listen to second hand youtube videos. Especially not ones that you post. That one reeked of propaganda from the moment it started. I didn't make it past the title screen.

The report that cited the government official quite clearly indicated they hadn't gotten it all. It was hardly the proof you seemed to think it was. Do better.

Lol then you admit to being terminally misinformed.

That explains everything about you.

Fool.

 

[Unclebaldrick]

Lol then you admit to being terminally misinformed.

That explains everything about you.

Fool.

Speaking of terminally misinformed (a topic you excell in), please explain why you claim that the Carter Foundation "certified" Maduro's election.

 

[Unclebaldrick]

... And herr Chumpster Fuhrer fell for it, hook, line and sinker!

Think for just a moment; Bashar Al Assad is WINNING, so why the fuck would he use chemical weapons, especially against civilians?

Answer; he wouldn't; but the rebels, who are desperate for someone to come save them, certainly would, while making sure that footage leaked immediately in order to provoke a brash, impulsive and neophyte leader into premature action. Fucking brilliant.

https://consortiumnews.com/2017/04/07/trumps-wag-the-dog-moment/

 

[Fogdog]

Lol then you admit to being terminally misinformed.

That explains everything about you.

Fool.

That video was information to you?

Too funny that.

Only an idiot like you would watch a video containing Assad's account of what happened and believe him.