Clone node structure
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CannaCountry
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Could be a polyploid....could just be a bump in the road. I wouldn't fret. Who knows you may have the next best thing going right there. You're good; no worries.
Not worried but the whole mother and all the clones have the same structure. Was gonna top for 2 tops, but I'm gonna get 3. I just wasn't sure how often this happens. Gonna look into polyploids now though, thanks!
Strain is ruby red gorilla bubble by Tony greens tortured beans @antonioverde what do you think friend?
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antonioverde
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Branching trait from the glue in homozygoous form. All of the outcrosses are crazy branchers. Did you see the ptk x gb I just finished up? Those things went nuuuuutss branching.
I think there is a pic, they were throwing double branches per node
I think there is a pic, they were throwing double branches per node
Are mine a trait worth keeping? Would making some S1's or something be worthwhile?Branching trait from the glue in homozygoous form. All of the outcrosses are crazy branchers. Did you see the ptk x gb I just finished up? Those things went nuuuuutss branching.
I think there is a pic, they were throwing double branches per node
I have been keeping track of those, they look incredible! Ive never heard of pine tar kush before your project. I'll check out the double branching.
I think if I can get the nodes closer together it would be more like 3 offshoots than 2 per node I think? Should be fun when it comes to topping.
Glad I got some ruby reds before they went outta stock
looking forward to future projects!
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antonioverde
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Id say for sure. The fact your clones do it makes me think its heritable.
Id like to see what percent the s1 expresses. Fwiw many have said the ruby red was potent as hell.
Need to rerelease an updated version. Gonna do a line x b line when i get time.
Id like to see what percent the s1 expresses. Fwiw many have said the ruby red was potent as hell.
Need to rerelease an updated version. Gonna do a line x b line when i get time.
I'll give it a go and let you know how that goes in the next couple months.
There's not many ruby red grow journals so maybe I'll make one too.
Yes what is the purpose of the recombine? Does it create more stabilised offspring? I grabbed some of the B line, missed the A's, looking forward to seeing the flowers of these girls! Love your work Tony
JohnDee
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JD,
I recently germed 11 seeds. All popped and appear normal but one. Had not just 3 fan leaves but had 3 growing shoots from one node. I had decided to try mainlining on these plants so topped it at 3rd node...the manifold is a three way. I just inspected it and subsequent nodes above that are the same.
JD
I recently germed 11 seeds. All popped and appear normal but one. Had not just 3 fan leaves but had 3 growing shoots from one node. I had decided to try mainlining on these plants so topped it at 3rd node...the manifold is a three way. I just inspected it and subsequent nodes above that are the same.
JD
Exactly what I have here! And the same plan as i, 3 into 9 tops - and so on.
Was it one of tony greens strains or another? Let me know how that plant turns out for you!
JohnDee
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Got the seeds from Alaska seed cache...they listed then as Matanuska Thunderf*ck.
I broke one of the shoots while training. Snapped at the node. It hung on like that for two days...still green. So finally I tied it up and it healed. These plants amaze me.
Will try and remember to let you know results...but no promises. lol
Cheers,
JD
That's a strain ive looked for previously, also called Alaskan thunderf*ck? Unless I'm
Mistaken.
Ive had many instances of breaking stems - electrical tape and they heal in no time! They just love to live haha.
I'm just curious to see their structure and I do enjoy looking at frosty buds is all haha. I won't hold you to it, don't worry!
JohnDee
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Well ask me in a couple of months. Notice how deftly I now made it your responsibility.enjoy looking at frosty buds is all haha. I won't hold you to it, don't worry!
I got the seedbank name wrong...
https://alaskacannabiscache.com/
When people write Matanuska Thunderfuck, it's often softened a bit through spelling. I understand Alaska Tundra is the same strain. Very rugged hybrid looking plants. I took clones from them all...which are now under 12/12 to give me earliest possible gender ID. I can tell you that they take to cloning well...and so far training is going good too.
I'll try and get you a picture once my usb cable arrives.
JD
PS: Last year they had a sale on during the Seattle Hempfest. $50 per pack for everything.
antonioverde
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Its called a reciprocal cross. Im using it in a bit different way than the traditional use.
You see the crazy cross loudog made that was a ruby red parent?
Well by using this method of (a x b) x (b x a) some of those different genes link up with their other half on the other plant. So the f2 will have these traits separating and segregating into homozygous pairs.
So plants showing dominant NYCO traits or dominant sfv traits.
Its kind of like shuffling the deck more completely in a way.
From there pick the winners of what i see ruby red being in my mind and stabilize.
You see the crazy cross loudog made that was a ruby red parent?
Well by using this method of (a x b) x (b x a) some of those different genes link up with their other half on the other plant. So the f2 will have these traits separating and segregating into homozygous pairs.
So plants showing dominant NYCO traits or dominant sfv traits.
Its kind of like shuffling the deck more completely in a way.
From there pick the winners of what i see ruby red being in my mind and stabilize.
Dropping knowledge as always, thanks a lot Tony! I'll let you know how these girls come out for sure.
JohnDee
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But you're not growing with that water...are you?
And JD or anyone else who has a response...and apologies if this seems like a dumb question.
I learned to clone years...no decades ago and always just cut so I had a nice clean section of stem. But someone pointed out that including a node is a good idea. As a test I stuck a branch with node underwater on a windowsill...and even underwater, the cutting grew branches and not roots from the node.
So that's the question...node or no node in cloning.
I know it's off topic but at least there's a node involved.
JD
Yep! Its better than it was. Used to be 500ppm now it can be as low as 350. Getting RO is too difficult around here.But you're not growing with that water...are you?
And JD or anyone else who has a response...and apologies if this seems like a dumb question.
I learned to clone years...no decades ago and always just cut so I had a nice clean section of stem. But someone pointed out that including a node is a good idea. As a test I stuck a branch with node underwater on a windowsill...and even underwater, the cutting grew branches and not roots from the node.
So that's the question...node or no node in cloning.
I know it's off topic but at least there's a node involved.
JD
Thanks for the node info! I'm now paranoid and gonna check all my plants for bugs and everything haha. If it's not the water it's potentially some great white which I was overzealous with on some cubes.
antonioverde
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My water is 500 ppm and 8 ph from tap. Blows. Im thinking of making a big charcoal water filter and see if running it through that will help.
I tried a "zero water" filter and was getting 1ppm water from it. You can make shift a big bin or bucket and attach a few of those filters with a thread to the bottom, and you have a cheap RO machine. Could be worth a go.