New vivosun 600w led full spectrum

[jtp92]

I can't find anything about others using this product so I figured I would start posting my experience with the new leds so far I can tell a lot of difference in temps I was using a 600w HID it was hot as hell so far the lights stay cool strong enough to bleach a plant but not from heat my IR thermometer has never went above 100 right at the glass the fans on top pump a lot of air thro and they seem to like it yesterday was the first day of the flower nutes they r daisy changed together it's a 10 gal DWC system blueberry on the right and 6 shooter on the left we will see where it takes us I'll keep you posted for now here r some pics they seem to love it so far my first led lights

 

[Way2-High]

Dude those plants are not happy. That’s some serious curl.

 

[jtp92]

Dude those plants are not happy. That’s some serious curl.

That's from the HID light they seemed like they really didint want to grow till they got close to the light and it was making me keep the hid on 250w but it was still to hot for them I thank the bulb wasint good but fuck it I got the leds to save on the bill I'll be moving in a few months and now I just have that little 2 plant setup but when I move I have 4 of those leds a 4x8 tent the inline fan I have everything I need now but since I took the hid down and put the leds up they have done a lot better this last week

 

[Way2-High]

Makes sense, good luck the rest of the way. I’ll be following along.

 

[jtp92]

Makes sense, good luck the rest of the way. I’ll be following along.

It's been a lot cooler in there with the leds it's pulling purple out of the stims and leafs that's something I havint been able to do with that hid it was 100% shit

 

[Way2-High]

Oh man you’re gonna get raped by the led and hid guys now lol

 

[jtp92]

Oh man you’re gonna get raped by the led and hid guys now lol

Lol I had a few small grows with it but I always had burning and heat problems with it it was a cheap off brand I couldn't tell u the name of it but I'm glad I got these lights I could never get fast growth or much product from it that was in soil to tho this is my first time in hydro

 

[StareCase]

It's been a lot cooler in there with the leds it's pulling purple out of the stims and leafs that's something I havint been able to do with that hid it was 100% shit

For a small set-up, blurples rock because dissipating the heat output is a big factor in small tents. Those Vivosun units look quite a bit like my Viparspectra 600 watters. I gather each Vivosun unit draws around 280 true wall watts?

Purple in the stems? You may need to step up the CAL-MAG a touch. Every time I water, they get 1/2 tsp per gallon of Botanicare Cal-Mag.

 

[StareCase]

... but when I move I have 4 of those leds a 4x8 tent the inline fan I have everything I need now but since I took the hid down and put the leds up they have done a lot better this last week

FYI - my experience with these style LED's, you need 70 watts / square foot to produce fruits of any good size and density. So if you only use the middle 4' x 4' in that larger tent, the 4 LED's you have would be perfect as each one of these 600 watt units cover a 2' x 2' grow area nicely - especially with a SCROG set-up. If you want to use the entire 4 x 8 footprint, you would need a total of 8 of those blurple units to get a good yield.

You can keep these type of LED's about 8" above your canopy without burning or bleaching the leaves.

 

[jtp92]

FYI - my experience with these style LED's, you need 70 watts / square foot to produce fruits of any good size and density. So if you only use the middle 4' x 4' in that larger tent, the 4 LED's you have would be perfect as each one of these 600 watt units cover a 2' x 2' grow area nicely - especially with a SCROG set-up. If you want to use the entire 4 x 8 footprint, you would need a total of 8 of those blurple units to get a good yield.

You can keep these type of LED's about 8" above your canopy without burning or bleaching the leaves.

I use the full botanicare set nutes and just my little 2 plant setup now I have 2 of those lights up to make sure I had enough light and yes they say 270 true watts but on YouTube I seen a person use a watt plug-in and it was at 280 true watts I planed on a 6 plant 5gal dwc each in the tent are they really that weak to use 4 in a 4x4 I don't thaink the tent would suport that weight each light is about 10 to 15lbs plus the inline fan and filter all that stuff is pretty heave

 

[jtp92]

FYI - my experience with these style LED's, you need 70 watts / square foot to produce fruits of any good size and density. So if you only use the middle 4' x 4' in that larger tent, the 4 LED's you have would be perfect as each one of these 600 watt units cover a 2' x 2' grow area nicely - especially with a SCROG set-up. If you want to use the entire 4 x 8 footprint, you would need a total of 8 of those blurple units to get a good yield.

You can keep these type of LED's about 8" above your canopy without burning or bleaching the leaves.

Here are some pics of each light so you can tell me what you think and on your vipar do you use 1 or both switches at a time is 1 switch only half power and mine is full spectrum first 3 are of vipar and other 3 is vivo and I have no idea what I'm really doing in the leds any ways I would like the help

 

[xtsho]

It's been a lot cooler in there with the leds it's pulling purple out of the stims and leafs that's something I havint been able to do with that hid it was 100% shit

You can blame problems on the HID and call it shit all you want. People have been growing excellent weed for decades under HID's. If you couldn't evacuate the heat from a 600 watt HID then you don't have your grow room setup properly. Those plants look lanky and that curl is not from the HID.

 

[jtp92]

It's from the heat of the bulb and it's the bulb that was Shit take a chill pill

 

[Johnny Lawrence]

It's from the heat of the bulb and it's the bulb that was Shit take a chill pill

What he said was spot on. I'll also mention that he did so in a measured and reasonable way. Your comment is rude, not his.

A "shit" bulb isn't going to do that to a plant. A "shit" bulb gets just as hot as a quality one. You should have been air cooling the hood

And personally, I'd take an HID 600 over those two inefficient panels you picked up.

 

[jtp92]

Yah I did need a better air flow but everything said about the plants are from the HID I've only had the leds for 3 days now and I'm not hating on hids if I had a hortilux air cooled hood I'm sure it would have done amazing the one I have is not a name brand and I thaink the bulbs that came with it were bad the buds I grew with it were good taste and high but they didint grow right the balist I have a 600w dimable and a 1000w dimable only used the 600 tho if the leds I have are not enough u can bet ur Ass I'll be buying a couple better bulbs for both I didint create this for non helpfull opinions this is my first hydro and led mix grow just trying to get info that's it

 

[SoMe_EfFin_MasS_HoLe]

Here are some pics of each light so you can tell me what you think and on your vipar do you use 1 or both switches at a time is 1 switch only half power and mine is full spectrum first 3 are of vipar and other 3 is vivo and I have no idea what I'm really doing in the leds any ways I would like the helpView attachment 4296531 View attachment 4296532 View attachment 4296533 View attachment 4296534 View attachment 4296535 View attachment 4296536

In the case of par maps.
The lie detector test determined that, that was a lie.

 

[DesertPlants]

Here are some pics of each light so you can tell me what you think and on your vipar do you use 1 or both switches at a time is 1 switch only half power and mine is full spectrum first 3 are of vipar and other 3 is vivo and I have no idea what I'm really doing in the leds any ways I would like the helpView attachment 4296531 View attachment 4296532 View attachment 4296533 View attachment 4296534 View attachment 4296535 View attachment 4296536

Holy hell, only 29.44 lumens per watt? Modern Samsung and Osram chips get 170-209.

 

[StareCase]

Here are some pics of each light so you can tell me what you think and on your vipar do you use 1 or both switches at a time is 1 switch only half power and mine is full spectrum first 3 are of vipar and other 3 is vivo and I have no idea what I'm really doing in the leds any ways I would like the help

Before any HID enthusiasts flame me, I am not here to pit these style LED's against HID. A properly configured HID set-up will always out perform one of these LED panels. Units like this VIVOSUN or the Viparspectra 600 W that I use are entry level lights that work well in smaller tents like a 2 x 4 x 5. The room required for items like cooling hoods and exhaust fans really overcrowd the grow space in a 2 x 4.

However, once you get into the 4 x 4 tents, they can support those additional items for HID or for bigger and more powerful LED's. On a different post, I proclaimed that were I to increase my footprint, managing a fleet of blurples would not be my lights of choice.

But for the purpose of this topic and since you already have the VIVOSUN units ...

My experience with entry level blurples is that you need a minimum of 70 true watts per square foot to produce a decent fruit. Those VIVOSUN units use 135 true wall watts. So in a 2 x 4 tent, you would need 4 VIVOSUN units to grow anything decent. 2 of my Reflectors pull 560 true wall watts and work well in the small space.

I use both the BLOOM and VEG switches from start to finish. Each LED chip is always on and always giving the girls light. They still need some blue during flowering and will use some red during veg. Both switches keeps the nodes closer together.

Don't go by the LED manufacturer's marketing "schpeel" with respect to a couple of factors: 1) - distance between the LED and canopy 2) - flowering coverage area. From my blurple experience:

1) - Distance above the canopy. A distance of 24" is way too far. 8" - 10" is fine once the plants have shown good growth during veg. Mine have been in that 8" - 10" range for pushing 8 weeks and there is no bleaching or burning. My SCROG has filled in to the point where I can't see the floor below the canopy and the 40+ tops on two plants are starting to crown with white hair.

2) - Flowering coverage. The Viparspectra's glossy claims 3 x 3 coverage at 24" above the canopy and I call total BS. 2' x 2' flowering coverage @ 10" is more accurate. Your VIVOSUN units is probably closer to 1.5' x 1.5' @ 10".

 

[jtp92]

Before any HID enthusiasts flame me, I am not here to pit these style LED's against HID. A properly configured HID set-up will always out perform one of these LED panels. Units like this VIVOSUN or the Viparspectra 600 W that I use are entry level lights that work well in smaller tents like a 2 x 4 x 5. The room required for items like cooling hoods and exhaust fans really overcrowd the grow space in a 2 x 4.

However, once you get into the 4 x 4 tents, they can support those additional items for HID or for bigger and more powerful LED's. On a different post, I proclaimed that were I to increase my footprint, managing a fleet of blurples would not be my lights of choice.

But for the purpose of this topic and since you already have the VIVOSUN units ...

My experience with entry level blurples is that you need a minimum of 70 true watts per square foot to produce a decent fruit. Those VIVOSUN units use 135 true wall watts. So in a 2 x 4 tent, you would need 4 VIVOSUN units to grow anything decent. 2 of my Reflectors pull 560 true wall watts and work well in the small space.

I use both the BLOOM and VEG switches from start to finish. Each LED chip is always on and always giving the girls light. They still need some blue during flowering and will use some red during veg. Both switches keeps the nodes closer together.

Don't go by the LED manufacturer's marketing "schpeel" with respect to a couple of factors: 1) - distance between the LED and canopy 2) - flowering coverage area. From my blurple experience:

1) - Distance above the canopy. A distance of 24" is way too far. 8" - 10" is fine once the plants have shown good growth during veg. Mine have been in that 8" - 10" range for pushing 8 weeks and there is no bleaching or burning. My SCROG has filled in to the point where I can't see the floor below the canopy and the 40+ tops on two plants are starting to crown with white hair.

2) - Flowering coverage. The Viparspectra's glossy claims 3 x 3 coverage at 24" above the canopy and I call total BS. 2' x 2' flowering coverage @ 10" is more accurate. Your VIVOSUN units is probably closer to 1.5' x 1.5' @ 10".

They say 270 true watts but there really pulling 280watts from the wall with a watt meter Idk if the extra 10 watts are the fans or what but they are doing fine so far and yes I have a 600w and a 1000w hid that would be way to many lights to be hanging in a 4x8 I might play with how I hang all of them around mabe all leds in the center of the tent then the hids on the sides to get everything elese that the leds can't reach Idk I'll find out when I make the big move for now my 2 plant hydro and starting my outdoor seeds with them seems to be working for now

 

[Waffledick420]

Before any HID enthusiasts flame me, I am not here to pit these style LED's against HID. A properly configured HID set-up will always out perform one of these LED panels. Units like this VIVOSUN or the Viparspectra 600 W that I use are entry level lights that work well in smaller tents like a 2 x 4 x 5. The room required for items like cooling hoods and exhaust fans really overcrowd the grow space in a 2 x 4.

However, once you get into the 4 x 4 tents, they can support those additional items for HID or for bigger and more powerful LED's. On a different post, I proclaimed that were I to increase my footprint, managing a fleet of blurples would not be my lights of choice.

But for the purpose of this topic and since you already have the VIVOSUN units ...

My experience with entry level blurples is that you need a minimum of 70 true watts per square foot to produce a decent fruit. Those VIVOSUN units use 135 true wall watts. So in a 2 x 4 tent, you would need 4 VIVOSUN units to grow anything decent. 2 of my Reflectors pull 560 true wall watts and work well in the small space.

I use both the BLOOM and VEG switches from start to finish. Each LED chip is always on and always giving the girls light. They still need some blue during flowering and will use some red during veg. Both switches keeps the nodes closer together.

Don't go by the LED manufacturer's marketing "schpeel" with respect to a couple of factors: 1) - distance between the LED and canopy 2) - flowering coverage area. From my blurple experience:

1) - Distance above the canopy. A distance of 24" is way too far. 8" - 10" is fine once the plants have shown good growth during veg. Mine have been in that 8" - 10" range for pushing 8 weeks and there is no bleaching or burning. My SCROG has filled in to the point where I can't see the floor below the canopy and the 40+ tops on two plants are starting to crown with white hair.

2) - Flowering coverage. The Viparspectra's glossy claims 3 x 3 coverage at 24" above the canopy and I call total BS. 2' x 2' flowering coverage @ 10" is more accurate. Your VIVOSUN units is probably closer to 1.5' x 1.5' @ 10".

Thank you for the info! Im getting this light tomorrow, and I didn't know how big to build my box. I'm gonna go with 2*2*4 and hopefully I can get some good bud out of it. Or is 4ft high too short? I don't need massive plants, just enough for a decent supply