New Zealand to change gun laws

Will the US ever get serious about effective gun control?

  • Yes, the will of the majority of people demands it

    Votes: 8 25.8%
  • No, the NRA and the gun lobby will never allow it

    Votes: 23 74.2%

  • Total voters
    31

bundee1

Well-Known Member
Good, then you understand there is no correlation
One thing, your statement, is unfattenable
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The other is also a crime against humanity, seeing as a great work of Art was abused.

I'm getting Drunk, does it show?

Time for the 9th.

From a BBC travel article
Today, about 20% of Australians are descendants of convicts, including plenty of prominent citizens. According to genealogists, former Prime Minister Kevin Rudd’s great-great-great-great-great grandmother was sentenced to be hanged when she was just 11 years old for committing robbery. When her sentence was reduced, she was sent to Australia on the second fleet, where conditions were so bad that 25% of its convicts died on the voyage. Celebrity chef Maggie Beer discovered on an episode of Who Do You Think You Are?, a family ancestry programme, that her great-great-great grandmother and great-great-great grandfather (a thief and a bigamist, respectively) met after being transported to Australia. On another episode of the same show, actor Jack Thompsonlearned that his great-great-great grandfather was a convict from Ireland, charged with highway robbery.

For at least a century after convict transportation ended in 1868, the Australian colonies tried to hide their founding legacy.

Whitewash much?
 

crimsonecho

Well-Known Member
Morality has been a source of bad public policy ever since public policy and laws were first created. That is fact and not a belief.

In the US, religion or other beliefs are not adequate basis for public policy. For good reasons regulations need to be put in place in the US so that we can track legally held firearms and prevent them from being sold on the black market. There is no good reason to take guns away from hunters or ranchers. You haven't given one good reason whatsoever to justify that. If you don't like guns, don't buy one. I don't own one for that reason. Some people believe I should be forced to own one. They wrongly believe society would be safer if everybody did. There it is again, public policy/laws based upon false beliefs are bad public policy/

People forced US women to carry pregnancies to term at one time regardless of what woman wanted to do. There was no good reason for that, just religious belief. The Supreme Court struck it down too.
The laws are the morality of the people who created them. Universal law, domestic law. These are not entities that exist seperate from humanity. These laws are not everlasting and are in no way placed by a fictional character like god. We humans thru ages distilled a brew which we call civilization. The concept of civilization includes in itself, our sense of right and wrong.

You know no action in the world is inherently right of wrong. The universe and everything in it just exists. When people tried to create some order out of this chaos they created rules. These rules are the morality of that community. I’m really talkin about morality in a much broader sense. Morality is made up but, after a lot of generations and great philosopher and shitty politicians and countless atrocities, we arrived at a definition of what civilization is so, if we want to live in a truly civilized world we should lift the treat of violence over the people. That should be the next step. Thats my views on the subject.
 

Lucky Luke

Well-Known Member
Id like to think that sometime America would take gun laws more seriously but due to having all the states with there own say I don't think it will ever happen.
 

scumrot derelict

Well-Known Member
So if you are a pacifist how do you propose anybody "take" anything away from a person who won't give it up?
New Zealand straight up admitted they have a gun violence problem. It only took them 24 hours to address it. Ted "Rafael" Cruz (a Canadian) says that gun violence is the reason why he lost the 2018 vote in Texas. His latest piece of legislation..."let's do some more investigations into hillary's emails."
 

Rob Roy

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New Zealand straight up admitted they have a gun violence problem. It only took them 24 hours to address it. Ted "Rafael" Cruz (a Canadian) says that gun violence is the reason why he lost the 2018 vote in Texas. His latest piece of legislation..."let's do some more investigations into hillary's emails."

So you'd use guns to enforce a "no guns" policy then?
 

Rob Roy

Well-Known Member
didn't you say people would be executed for not paying the obamacare fines for moochers, mooch?

Any government edict which is disobeyed long enough thru a progression of escalation, is likely to result in the execution of the disobedient person.

For the record, I do not have sexual relations with truckers. Not that there's anything wrong with people who do.
 

Rob Roy

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Hello solid point, I am a straw-man.

I will argue something completely different from the point you were trying to make because it is so much easier.

I am a furry man. I need to be extra careful when I wipe my ass, but other than that, I'm fairly normal. Well, mostly.

I appreciate that you told me you were a strawman, it will be our little secret. Mom's the word.
 

scumrot derelict

Well-Known Member
I am a furry man. I need to be extra careful when I wipe my ass, but other than that, I'm fairly normal. Well, mostly.

I appreciate that you told me you were a strawman, it will be our little secret. Mom's the word.
"I did an oopsie, got called out on it. It's embarrassing, but I still consider myself an honest man."

I forgive you, even though you are a hairy butthole.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
Any government edict which is disobeyed long enough thru a progression of escalation, is likely to result in the execution of the disobedient person.
but you said people would be killed for not paying the obamacare fines for moochers.

has a single person even been jailed for it?

just want to check in on this claim of yours because you are 100% full of shit and just want to make sure your record of never being right about anything remains intact
 

Rob Roy

Well-Known Member
but you said people would be killed for not paying the obamacare fines for moochers.

has a single person even been jailed for it?

just want to check in on this claim of yours because you are 100% full of shit and just want to make sure your record of never being right about anything remains intact

 
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