New Zealand to change gun laws

[Rob Roy]

New Zealand is doing the right thing. A long time ago there was a massacre in Australia and they banned a lot of guns...since then no massacres.

Guns are tools to kill things. They have always been tools to kill things or to use as a forced to take things from others.

Pretty simple fact. Hard for many to get but simple. Like common sense really.

Why is it so hard to understand. And for the good of the many the few sometimes must surrender things. Welcome to civilization...

Would you be in favor of using guns to take guns away from your peaceful neighbor who refuses to be disarmed?

 

[Sir Napsalot]

Sako makes some beautiful stuff, but you better be wealthy if you plan to collect them.....

I started buying them 25 years ago when they were still affordable

 

[crimsonecho]

I luv Miracle Grow !!!

My personal choice is ewc, guano, manure and neem cake but this plant performs well with anything. Love growing it. Very fulfilling.

 

[Hydro4life]

Oh everyone should know about your obscure references. Can’t you write something without these: ‘ ‘

Do you have a voice of your own.

By the way if you are quoting someone, thats the wrong one to use.

Hahaha

 

[Hydro4life]

Divine herself would eviscerate him.

That's fukn gold!! Haha

 

[crimsonecho]

Would you be in favor of using guns to take guns away from your peaceful neighbor who refuses to be disarmed?

If a person has guns, how can that person be considered as peaceful? Truly peaceful people dont need guns.

 

[Hydro4life]

Well, this a OP that is working well, if I must say so myself.
Good arguments made from every aspect.
But, it's time to harvest for me, so I'm outta here for now and this is the 1st lamb to the slaughter.(Super Silver Haze, shit pic, my phone sucks)

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See, I actually do grow (not like most, me thinks)

See ya later amigos, and please remember, we're all here on this site because we are basically kindred spirits, ones that are not boxed in by societies declared norms, so please leave the fuck you's at the door.(Let the Republicans do that shit, we're better than that)

That would be nice.

Very nice jimdamick!!

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

If a person has guns, how can that person be considered as peaceful? Truly peaceful people dont need guns.

i own three firearms, and have never shot anyone. they're fun to shoot, at targets...and i used to hunt, for food, not trophies, before my health deteriorated. i own a bow, and have never shot anyone with it...same deal^
i've practiced martial arts for 25 years, wado ryu and escrima, i can fight pretty effectively with a rope, a belt, a stick, a staff, or my hands and feet...
objects are inert...the intent of the user makes them harmless or harmful...
there are acceptable uses for firearms, and unacceptable uses...
there are some weapons that are acceptable, to me, anyway, and some that aren't....a pistol, shotgun, or rifle that hasn't been modified to kill people expressly...that has a moderate ammo capacity, and a reasonable rate of fire, are acceptable to me.
ammunition that hasn't been designed to penetrate police body armor is ok...ammunition designed to cause maximum damage isn't....no reason any private citizen needs any of that...targets don't wear armor, and doing maximum damage to the deer you're hunting is counter productive...
trust me, if you end up having to shoot an intruder in your home, 6 rounds of ball ammo delivered with a steady hand to the main body mass will put them down...you do not need 34 rounds of silver tips interspersed with jacketed steel slugs....why not throw some WP rounds in there?.......and a small tactical nuke?

 

[UncleBuck]

That's fukn gold!! Haha

Hahahaha!

 

[Rob Roy]

If a person has guns, how can that person be considered as peaceful? Truly peaceful people dont need guns.

Thank you for asking a polite and reasonable question.

I am a peaceful person, I have a few guns. Being a peaceful person means you don't initiate OFFENSIVE FORCE, it doesn't mean you will not use DEFENSIVE force to repel offensive force. A person who won't use defensive or offensive force, is a pacifist.

Not all peaceful people have guns, gun ownership isn't the defining characteristic of whether a person is peaceful or not. Using offensive force is the defining characteristic if a person isn't peaceful .


If you are a peaceful person and another person comes to you and begins shooting at you, while you were minding your own business, which person broke the peace ? Would it matter if the person shooting at you was a cop?

 

[Rob Roy]

i own three firearms, and have never shot anyone. they're fun to shoot, at targets...and i used to hunt, for food, not trophies, before my health deteriorated. i own a bow, and have never shot anyone with it...same deal^
i've practiced martial arts for 25 years, wado ryu and escrima, i can fight pretty effectively with a rope, a belt, a stick, a staff, or my hands and feet...
objects are inert...the intent of the user makes them harmless or harmful...
there are acceptable uses for firearms, and unacceptable uses...
there are some weapons that are acceptable, to me, anyway, and some that aren't....a pistol, shotgun, or rifle that hasn't been modified to kill people expressly...that has a moderate ammo capacity, and a reasonable rate of fire, are acceptable to me.
ammunition that hasn't been designed to penetrate police body armor is ok...ammunition designed to cause maximum damage isn't....no reason any private citizen needs any of that...targets don't wear armor, and doing maximum damage to the deer you're hunting is counter productive...
trust me, if you end up having to shoot an intruder in your home, 6 rounds of ball ammo delivered with a steady hand to the main body mass will put them down...you do not need 34 rounds of silver tips interspersed with jacketed steel slugs....why not throw some WP rounds in there?.......and a small tactical nuke?

Using your "logic"...

Would it be okay with you, if other people decided you didn't need to be such a well trained martial artist, capable of ripping my heart out right through my thickly furred chest and maybe "we", "society" cut off one of your arms so you wouldn't be so lethal ?

 

[UncleBuck]

Thank you for asking a polite and reasonable question.

I am a peaceful person, I have a few guns. Being a peaceful person means you don't initiate OFFENSIVE FORCE, it doesn't mean you will not use DEFENSIVE force to repel offensive force. A person who won't use defensive or offensive force, is a pacifist.

Not all peaceful people have guns, gun ownership isn't the defining characteristic of whether a person is peaceful or not. Using offensive force is the defining characteristic if a person isn't peaceful .


If you are a peaceful person and another person comes to you and begins shooting at you, while you were minding your own business, which person broke the peace ? Would it matter if the person shooting at you was a cop?

You’re not peaceful you’re a racist

 

[Unclebaldrick]

'Neurotic to the bone, no doubt about it."

'Sometimes I give myself the creeps. It all keeps adding up, I think I'm cracking up....'.

Missed you. Thought of you this morning. Stay here for a couple days. Busy.

 

[Jimdamick]

That's fukn gold!! Haha

Do you like John Waters?

Fucking guy is a Genius, and Pink Flamingos with Devine was his best work I think.

 

[BostonBuds]

i own three firearms, and have never shot anyone. they're fun to shoot, at targets...and i used to hunt, for food, not trophies, before my health deteriorated. i own a bow, and have never shot anyone with it...same deal^
i've practiced martial arts for 25 years, wado ryu and escrima, i can fight pretty effectively with a rope, a belt, a stick, a staff, or my hands and feet...
objects are inert...the intent of the user makes them harmless or harmful...
there are acceptable uses for firearms, and unacceptable uses...
there are some weapons that are acceptable, to me, anyway, and some that aren't....a pistol, shotgun, or rifle that hasn't been modified to kill people expressly...that has a moderate ammo capacity, and a reasonable rate of fire, are acceptable to me.
ammunition that hasn't been designed to penetrate police body armor is ok...ammunition designed to cause maximum damage isn't....no reason any private citizen needs any of that...targets don't wear armor, and doing maximum damage to the deer you're hunting is counter productive...
trust me, if you end up having to shoot an intruder in your home, 6 rounds of ball ammo delivered with a steady hand to the main body mass will put them down...you do not need 34 rounds of silver tips interspersed with jacketed steel slugs....why not throw some WP rounds in there?.......and a small tactical nuke?

Zero to do with the 2nd Amendment. And "targets don't wear body armor" ?

 

[Hydro4life]

You’re not peaceful you’re a racist

Hahahaha

 

[Rob Roy]

You’re not peaceful you’re a racist

Aren't you the guy that wants to take guns away from black people so they can't defend their own property ?

Would you have been in favor of disarming Jews in Germany too, to make it easier to load them on trains ?

I'm not a racist, although I could be a speciest, you dirty Feciest.

 

[zeddd]

I’m happy to see you find it funny. I find you funny too. Maybe we should be lovers.

Pffft who cares about you. You cannot debate shit. You just attack.

Anycase, my life is better than yours and i’m not like you, so no insults from me.

What’s up daddy not spank you hard enough today. Your life must be shit to make you this angry and shouty.

 

[Hydro4life]

Aren't you the guy that wants to take guns away from black people so they can't defend their own property ?

Would you have been in favor of disarming Jews in Germany too, to make it easier to load them on trains ?

I'm not a racist, although I could be a speciest, you dirty Feciest.

Unclebucks not a racist. He hates everyone equally haha.

 

[dandyrandy]

If a person has guns, how can that person be considered as peaceful? Truly peaceful people dont need guns.

I have many. I live in the country. Not so much for protection but coyotes and my dogs don't get along. Boom!