Israel is a racist Nation (it really is)

[UncleBuck]

Stopping to use an argument because nazis may adopted is at its core an act of negiotiation with the terrorists.

what foreign country are you spamming us from?

because there is no way english is your first language

 

[crimsonecho]

It's possible to criticize what Israel is doing without sounding like a neo-Nazi. If you aren't a neo-Nazi, don't use their tropes and you won't sound like one. Let's just cut it with the hate speech already.

That you feel you have to go after me for describing this very simple way to be civil when voicing concern over a valid issue, then the proof is in your own words that you are a neo-Nazi skinhead antisemitic jerk. In which case, there is nothing I can say to you that can get below your stance on the issue.

How you are viewed by others depends on how you behave. Speak like a Nazi, be seen as a Nazi. Simple. Same goes with the guy with the bad ticker.

I find what you are saying especially anti-democratic. Just because a nazi can adopt my arguments, i should stop presenting them? What do you find anti-semitic could you please eloborate. What hate speech? Could you please quote some for me?

 

[Fogdog]

I find what you are saying especially anti-democratic. Just because a nazi can adopt my arguments, i should stop presenting them? What do you find anti-semitic could you please eloborate. What hate speech? Could you please quote some for me?

LOL. Not what I said.

It's completely possible to criticize Israel without sounding like a neo-Nazi. If you don't want to appear to be like them, don't sound like them. If you take offense because I'm pointing out that you sound like a neo-Nazi, then the old chestnut about the struck dog hollers applies to you.

Regarding Israel's crimes against the Palestinians,

I'm opposed to ANY US aid going to Israel. I'm opposed to arms deals with them. I'm supportive of travel and trading sanctions against Israel. I'm willing to consider a joint nations task force to break Israel's blockade of Gaza and relieving its citizens of Israels forced detention of them. Israel is in violation of international human rights accords and Netanyahu should be tried for his crimes. I'd be willing to talk about harsher measures.

Do you see how easy that was? There is no need to use hate speech. In fact, your hate speech gets in the way of your message. I am assuming you in fact do care Palestinians. In which case, I wonder what you think about Trump's travel ban on people from mostly Muslim countries.

 

[zeddd]

LOL. Not what I said.

It's completely possible to criticize Israel without sounding like a neo-Nazi. If you don't want to appear to be like them, don't sound like them. If you take offense because I'm pointing out that you sound like a neo-Nazi, then the old chestnut about the struck dog hollers applies to you.

Regarding Israel's crimes against the Palestinians,

I'm opposed to ANY US aid going to Israel. I'm opposed to arms deals with them. I'm supportive of travel and trading sanctions against Israel. I'm willing to consider a joint nations task force to break Israel's blockade of Gaza and relieving its citizens of Israels forced detention of them. Israel is in violation of international human rights accords and Netanyahu should be tried for his crimes. I'd be willing to talk about harsher measures.

Do you see how easy that was? There is no need to use hate speech. In fact, your hate speech gets in the way of your message. I am assuming you in fact do care them. In which case, I wonder what you think about Trump's travel ban on people from mostly Muslim countries.

He’s an absolutely ridiculous debater, a joker card who isn’t needed.

 

[Fogdog]

He’s an absolutely ridiculous debater, a joker card who isn’t needed.

I think you are right. I'm just honing my argument using him as a sounding board.

 

[zeddd]

LOL. Not what I said.

It's completely possible to criticize Israel without sounding like a neo-Nazi. If you don't want to appear to be like them, don't sound like them. If you take offense because I'm pointing out that you sound like a neo-Nazi, then the old chestnut about the struck dog hollers applies to you.

Regarding Israel's crimes against the Palestinians,

I'm opposed to ANY US aid going to Israel. I'm opposed to arms deals with them. I'm supportive of travel and trading sanctions against Israel. I'm willing to consider a joint nations task force to break Israel's blockade of Gaza and relieving its citizens of Israels forced detention of them. Israel is in violation of international human rights accords and Netanyahu should be tried for his crimes. I'd be willing to talk about harsher measures.

Do you see how easy that was? There is no need to use hate speech. In fact, your hate speech gets in the way of your message. I am assuming you in fact do care Palestinians. In which case, I wonder what you think about Trump's travel ban on people from mostly Muslim countries.

If aid is withdrawn then the terrorists will win. Israel has a tiny strip of desert which produced nothing until they cultivated it, GDP is insufficient to sustain and protect it from people like my ancestors who literally want to see Israel wiped off the map because of some Iron Age fairy tale/horror story.

 

[Budley Doright]

I think you are right. I'm just honing my argument using him as a sounding board.

Very well said! Refreshing to see here for a change.

 

[Fogdog]

If aid is withdrawn then the terrorists will win. Israel has a tiny strip of desert which produced nothing until they cultivated it, GDP is insufficient to sustain and protect it from people like my ancestors who literally want to see Israel wiped off the map because of some Iron Age fairy tale/horror story.

The recent violent suppression of the people of Gaza during protests a few months back was enough to justify the US's withdrawl of support for Israel. But of course, there is much much more that has been done in the past.

My concern is that we are supporting and enabling a government that is committing human rights violations and its soldiers are shooting civilians for no good reason. Not to mention the grip it exercises on the West Bank. If what you say is true then Israel would be forced to stand down on the possibility of the withdrawal of US aid. I'm all for them coming to the negotiating table with that hanging over their heads.

 

[zeddd]

The recent violent suppression of the people of Gaza during protests a few months back was enough to justify the US's withdrawl of support for Israel. But of course, there is much much more that has been done in the past.

My concern is that we are supporting and enabling a government that is committing human rights violations and its soldiers are shooting civilians for no good reason. Not to mention the grip it exercises on the West Bank. If what you say is true then Israel would be forced to stand down on the possibility of the withdrawal of US aid. I'm all for them coming to the negotiating table with that hanging over their heads.

Yes I agree that the present Israeli government is debatably in contravention of international human rights law. The US could much more effectively influence a more moderate position for the current Israeli government to adopt if they still have a hand in the game. Complete withdrawal of aid would lead to anarchy and loss of life.

 

[crimsonecho]

LOL. Not what I said.

It's completely possible to criticize Israel without sounding like a neo-Nazi. If you don't want to appear to be like them, don't sound like them. If you take offense because I'm pointing out that you sound like a neo-Nazi, then the old chestnut about the struck dog hollers applies to you.

Regarding Israel's crimes against the Palestinians,

I'm opposed to ANY US aid going to Israel. I'm opposed to arms deals with them. I'm supportive of travel and trading sanctions against Israel. I'm willing to consider a joint nations task force to break Israel's blockade of Gaza and relieving its citizens of Israels forced detention of them. Israel is in violation of international human rights accords and Netanyahu should be tried for his crimes. I'd be willing to talk about harsher measures.

Do you see how easy that was? There is no need to use hate speech. In fact, your hate speech gets in the way of your message. I am assuming you in fact do care Palestinians. In which case, I wonder what you think about Trump's travel ban on people from mostly Muslim countries.

And i’m asking for you to please quote me on my hate speech. I never try to target or fuel any hatred towards a specific group. And when i talk about israel, i’m talking about the ideology of the state. The political forces behind these crimes not the jewish people.

Trumps travel ban or any other fascist practice. I’m against it. The world doesn’t have borders. Its a made up construct. Traveling freely is your human right so is the pursuit of happiness.

 

[Fogdog]

Yes I agree that the present Israeli government is debatably in contravention of international human rights law. The US could much more effectively influence a more moderate position for the current Israeli government to adopt if they still have a hand in the game. Complete withdrawal of aid would lead to anarchy and loss of life.

OK, so, maybe I'm being extreme. Agree that I'm no diplomat. I'd like to see my country take a different stance from it's complete support of Isreal. I think that would be helpful towards making progress. Right now, the Palestinians are ready to negotiate but Israel isn't.

 

[Fogdog]

And i’m asking for you to please quote me on my hate speech. I never try to target or fuel any hatred towards a specific group. And when i talk about israel, i’m talking about the ideology of the state. The political forces behind these crimes not the jewish people.

Trumps travel ban or any other fascist practice. I’m against it. The world doesn’t have borders. Its a made up construct. Traveling freely is your human right so is the pursuit of happiness.

So, should the US be ready to accept more refugees from those countries?

What about your country? Does it have a liberal policy of accepting refugees?

 

[zeddd]

OK, so, maybe I'm being extreme. Agree that I'm no diplomat. I'd like to see my country take a different stance from it's complete support of Isreal. I think that would be helpful towards making progress. Right now, the Palestinians are ready to negotiate but Israel isn't.

They may seem ready to negotiate but are you aware of the doctrine of Taqiyya?

 

[crimsonecho]

So, should the US be ready to accept more refugees from those countries?

What about your country? Does it have a liberal policy of accepting refugees?

Yes. You are not giving people any handouts or doing them any favors. This is a human right. Again, borders are made up, just as god, just as the construct of race as its defined as a tool of segragation or oppression and just as languages. So fuck borders, gods, races, political correctness etc etc.

This is not something for the countries to decide so, i can say any policy on this subject could be considered problematic, at least for me. Having said that, the policies have been much more liberal than many countries including us.

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

Fuck God, that fucking fairy tale POS that has cost billions of lives since it was invented by some people wandering in a fucking desert 3000 years ago.
What the fuck is wrong with us?

people need something to believe in....even those who call themselves "faithless" believe in something...they can call it whatever they want, but it's a crutch...and all of us are just crippled enough to need one from time to time...
we may have different definitions of "good" but when you do something you believe in, that you think makes some kind of difference, it makes you feel "good"...
the sad thing is that people can somehow justify harming others as "good"...when you get to the point where the pain of others makes you feel good, then you have lost sight of good and evil, and are blind in the only way that matters

 

[Fogdog]

Yes. You are not giving people any handouts or doing them any favors. This is a human right. Again, borders are made up, just as god, just as the construct of race as its defined as a tool of segregation or oppression and just as languages. So fuck borders, gods, races, political correctness etc etc.

This is not something for the countries to decide so, i can say any policy on this subject could be considered problematic, at least for me. Having said that, the policies have been much more liberal than many countries including us.

So, how many Syrian refugees did your country take in during this crisis?

How about Jewish refugees from Iraq and Afghanistan? If Israel collapsed due to the heavy handed policies that Zedd pointed out I was endorsing, would your be in favor of taking in refugees?

I'll freely admit that the US could and should do more for refugees. We have a xenophobic, racist and bigoted administration that does more harm than good nowadays.

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

They may seem ready to negotiate but are you aware of the doctrine of Taqiyya?

yes...they treat religion like warfare...it's perfectly fine to lie to an unbeliever, they're all subhuman filth, with no souls....

 

[Fogdog]

They may seem ready to negotiate but are you aware of the doctrine of Taqiyya?

Not aware of it. Is this what you are talking about?

Taqiya (تقیة, taqiyyah/ taqīyah, literally "prudence, fear, caution") is an Islamic term referring to precautionary dissimulation or denial of religious belief and practice in the face of persecution. This practice is emphasized in Shia Islam whereby adherents are permitted to conceal their religion when under threat of persecution or compulsion. However, it is also permitted in Sunni Islam under certain circumstances.

 

[Jimdamick]

i'm pretty sure he's anti-semitic

nope

in fact i'm certain of it

your wrong, again

 

[UncleBuck]

nope

your wrong, again

Sorry I have eyes and can see how incredibly anti Semitic that cartoon you liked was