Epic 4x4 Flowering Smackdown : 96 Elites vs 288s

WeedSexWeightsShakes

WeedSexWeightsShakes

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Or_Gro said:
Thanks WSx2.

Yuge!

How far along are those? How will your move affect them?

Got one of your vids?
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They are kind of old cause I took clones kind of late in flower. So they had to reveg. We are planning on moving the plants and tents last. I figure we will just move them all at night so it shouldn’t affect them too much. The hard part is they will be halfway or little over that in flower lol. They are all probably 5-6ft too. We have a lot going on lol. Going to sign papers for the house today!!

Oh haven’t done any little videos. I am only flowering the 4x8 right now. Have 3 auto flowers that are starting to flower, clones and 4 small auto flowers in my 2x4. My 5x5 veg tent has 14 or so going too.

Nice training on those clones my friend!
 
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Or_Gro

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WeedSexWeightsShakes said:
They are kind of old cause I took clones kind of late in flower. So they had to reveg. We are planning on moving the plants and tents last. I figure we will just move them all at night so it shouldn’t affect them too much. The hard part is they will be halfway or little over that in flower lol. They are all probably 5-6ft too. We have a lot going on lol. Going to sign papers for the house today!!

Oh haven’t done any little videos. I am only flowering the 4x8 right now. Have 3 auto flowers that are starting to flower, clones and 4 small auto flowers in my 2x4. My 5x5 veg tent has 14 or so going too.

Nice training on those clones my friend!
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Thanks man!

Sign those docs, and things will start falling into place ....

Whata spring you’ve got lined up....hope all keeps goin well for you and your wife.

Can’t wait to see your new setup...
 
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Or_Gro

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Tomorrow, the on again/off again uvb saga ends. I’ll install two 4’ t5 nano reflector fixtures in each of the smackdown tents, with Arcadia 14% UVB 30% UVA D3 Dragon reptile lights.

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Will start with 1 hr/day, ramping to 6 hrs/day, as quickly as possible, with minimal damage to plants.

These strains showed ridiculous frostiness in the pics posted earlier...gonna be a sight to see, if these lights add more...lol
 
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SMT69

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^I'm liking those

on a side note, I'm finally running full dwc next run, you run 3" nets, any advice between them and 6" pots, rather, Is either more stable than the other as the weight builds? Thx

Shits lookin good, daymm
 
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Or_Gro

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SMT69 said:
^I'm liking those

on a side note, I'm finally running full dwc next run, you run 3" nets, any advice between them and 6" pots, rather, Is either more stable than the other as the weight builds? Thx

Shits lookin good, daymm
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Thanks man.

I haven’t had any stability issues...in the size buckets i use (6-8gal), i would not ever use 6” net cups.

The bigger the cup, the less water volume available to the plant; cuz they take up more depth from top of lid.

This means that, since in dwc the water surface is usually a 1/2” or more below net cup, you’re losing all the volume from water surface to lid, not just the displacement of the cup itself.

The lower volume of water, can reduce yield and increase risks related to water variables; temp, ec, pH, and pathogens.

The bigger cups also require substantially more hydroton.
 
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Machac420

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Sweet man, looking forward to it. Maybe thats where i went wrong with getting stretch in my elites... i was using far reds as EoD treatment since the first day of 12-12. Also first time using far red tho...
Do you think it would be unfair for the 288's if you didnt supplement red?
I got in touch with HLG a coulpe days ago and i decided to keep my elites to use in a different setup. Here in a couple weeks HLG will be releasing new versions of the 288 with some "maybe" red diodes.
Pumped for the new boards!
 
Or_Gro

Or_Gro

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Machac420 said:
Sweet man, looking forward to it. Maybe thats where i went wrong with getting stretch in my elites... i was using far reds as EoD treatment since the first day of 12-12. Also first time using far red tho...
Do you think it would be unfair for the 288's if you didnt supplement red?
I got in touch with HLG a coulpe days ago and i decided to keep my elites to use in a different setup. Here in a couple weeks HLG will be releasing new versions of the 288 with some "maybe" red diodes.
Pumped for the new boards!
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Yeah, far red thru stretch triggers shade avoidance syndrome, where internodes stretch.

This grow is about maximizing flower yield using full potential of each setup. Someone else can run both types without supplementation, and w/o co2.

Now that the samsung diodes are a commodity, hlg needs to up their game if they want to lead....putting a similar set of red and deep red, as the 96s, in with the 301bs, seems overdue....it’s basically what i and others have been doing on our own.
 
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Machac420

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Lol i found out the hard way. Thank you for comfirming that.
Right on brotha man, you've been killin it. Keep up the good work
Yeah definitely, hlg didnt go into details of whats to come. Could even be simular to the red diodes in what green sunshines electric sky has... either way looking forward to a 288 board supplemented with red.
 
Or_Gro

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Or_Gro said:
I’m a true believer in defol.

Under optimal conditions, up to the end of stretch, a healthy plant will produce whatever leaves it needs.

The two primary reasons i defol are: to prevent the plant from using its energy to support an undesired part of the plant, and to remove a part of the plant that is blocking light or airflow.

When a leaf is removed, energy is redirected to what is left on the plant, with priority to the growing tip, supported by the same roots mass as before defol...

Further discussion about defol can be found at the growweedeasy link above.

I always tell novice defoliators that if you don't feel defol remorse after defol’ing, then you haven’t removed enuff leaves.

This morning i took a shipload of leaves, but didn’t feel bad...

So, i went at it again...

Before defol:

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8x288
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After defol:

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Lol...still not feelin it!
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A week ago...

Before defol:
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8x288
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After defol:
6x96
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8x288
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Today, 7 days later...

6x96
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8x288
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For me, the only question left about defol is the timing...
 
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Or_Gro

Or_Gro

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Last grow, diff strains, same 8x288 config...

At defol, 9 days before 12:12
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At 12:12: plants 12-14” above res lids
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End of week 1: plants 18-22” above res lids, 8-9 node pairs on 8 mains, less than 20 tops
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This grow, same 8x288 config...

Defol at 12:12: plants 10-12” above res lids
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End of week 1: plants 12-14” above res lids, 8-9 node pairs on 8 mains, 40+ tops
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The main difference (besides strains) between the 8x288 configs this grow vs previous one, is the timing of defol...
 
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