4 strains finished with no effects
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Thundercat
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I'm saying the trichs could have been stunted and or were stopes from growing to early and didn't fill with much resin. Then the small amount that was there finally matured but there wasn't much to actually get you high.
Stunned growth and bad temps can absolutely slow the grow down even more.
Stunned growth and bad temps can absolutely slow the grow down even more.
growingforfun
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Those arnt done, maybe 1.5-2 weeks imo.
Ok so you have fans...
Hmmm. Was the weed dried with heat?
growingforfun
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Not a big deal
danjac82
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Makes sense. Never used such small pots and they were absolutely depleted of nutrition. When I went to straight water, they began yellowing instantly..some of them rather dramatically in only a weeks time. Idk. I’m talking plants that were mostly green had up to maybe 5 sets of fan leave s or more on each main branch yellow and start to droop. Shock like you said might have set in. Probably didn’t help that I was possibly not waiting for pots to dry completely during that time as I may have been off in judgement. I usually go by leaf raise and pot weight...may have not been precise cause the bud weight and plants moving when I picked them up. Couldn’t look at leaf raise anymore on most of them to Help me judge anymore since they were quickly gettting ugly. Trichs appear small to me..lifeless..limp..idk. Like they just fizzed out. Hoping going back to the bigger pots and no early flush will help this time around. I was going to toss the clones but glad I kept them. I need to know what’s going on with my grow hand. Same strain.same girls but switch a few things..mainly more food later into flower, patience and these bigger pots.i do believe my tap water is weird too. The Aquarian’s fish aren’t happy the last year. Idk. Paranoid about it. Buying RO water later. I suspected my water to cause the ovule issue as well. The problem persists no matter the medium or fertilizers used..no matter the temps or pot size. Indoor or out. It’s a consistent issue
danjac82
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Come to think of it..no heat used but hung in a room that I didn’t cover heat vent from floor. Air is dry Already and did notice a slight breeze of it hitting them where they hung. Dried in branches that would usually take around a week. These were ready for jars between 3-5 days. Most of them ready in3 or 4. They very quickly went from that feel where you know you got several days left to being past the spongey feel I look for by the next day. Plenty of moisture inside there but too crunchy on outside. Didn’t bounce back with the squeeze. Just kind of crushed in until I got toward center where mosistire was. They bounced back in jars and have good texture now. Not too dry but burns good. A bit sticky but not wet. Temps in that rom were mid to high 70s. Air from vent didn’t feel hot hitting them as It did lightly. Dry air and that very slight breeze from vent dried them twice as fast as usual. Even so..I’ve often quick oven dried bud that was a bit early and it was much stronger
JohnDee
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Danjac82,
I don't really have that much to add but that's never stopped me before.
I am in a new location with my first grow here. Decided to do a seed crop so all got pollenated fairly heavily.
My genetics was from MrNice Dreamtime mix. Two plants (sativa leaning) got burnt a bit early on and never really recovered but should still produce good seeds.
The other day, out of curiosity, I cut a sucker bud and quick dried it. Rolled a joint and got a good buzz. I'm a fairly habitual smoker. So sort of random genetics grown poorly and seeded...and still got me buzzed. I don't think it's a psychological or tolerance issue. Either genetics or something that you did wrong.
JD
I don't really have that much to add but that's never stopped me before.
I am in a new location with my first grow here. Decided to do a seed crop so all got pollenated fairly heavily.
My genetics was from MrNice Dreamtime mix. Two plants (sativa leaning) got burnt a bit early on and never really recovered but should still produce good seeds.
The other day, out of curiosity, I cut a sucker bud and quick dried it. Rolled a joint and got a good buzz. I'm a fairly habitual smoker. So sort of random genetics grown poorly and seeded...and still got me buzzed. I don't think it's a psychological or tolerance issue. Either genetics or something that you did wrong.
JD
danjac82
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I’m really going to focus on keep them green til I see mature trichs this time. Forget the flushing. Maybe give plain water the last watering or two
danjac82
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I hate to say it but it has to be me. Genetics were jack 47, blue widow, dinachem and deep cheese. Plants started flower good..mid flower good but got funny. Yellowed early..started feeding just plain water too early. Trichs were developing great. Seems to fizz out, slow down and stay clear forever as plant health went downhill into around late week 8.. week 9-11. I believe the plants had potential that was haulted or destroyed by me
JohnDee
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I'm sure you, along with the rest of us, would really like to know what happened. So it can be avoided in the future.
Sorry man...be sure to let us know if you get it figured out.
JD
danjac82
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will do for sure. I’ve made adjustments and will be keeping a journal of these girls on here. Need to detail this and keep gettting input. I could just keep updating in thread. Not sure which route to go. Both probably. But yea..some adjustment in pot size, water source and going to not miss a day of temp checking and make sure my heat is set right every night. Slightly redneck setup I have. Put some girls back under old Fluor setup that always actually produced quality smoke. Kept the other girls under the hps. Bummer cause this was my first hps run and my eyes are whiter than a jehovas witness. Looks like I’ve finally got my weed smoking under control. No Chinese eyes for this guy.I expected to harvest my new level of fire and be worshipped by the locals. Lolol. A bit of exaggeration but you get it.
danjac82
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my theories on large ovules are...because a fem seed was produced without a Y chromosome, the plant knows this and reacts instantly by producing seeds that turn into plants with sometimes larger ovules in order to be more impregnable or whatever. Idk the terminology. Bigger ovules maybe bigger chance at pollination. It wants to catch as much pollen as possible to reproduce the “normal” way. It pumps up its ovules for fertility reasons to up the chance of getting that pollination that comes with Y chromosome. It can makes ovules crackle. Seems more pronounced on some strains. Never had this with reg seeds and will be going back to them next run. Other theory is my water is funky and has too much of something in it that’s causing the big ovules. Like I’ve said before. I’m getting the big ovules indoor and out. No matter the temp, medium or fertilizer used. On another forum..Subcool was saying fems produce “micro seeds “. By this I believe firmly that he is talking about the ovules
danjac82
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Have described the ovule issue on many forums and sometime someone will come out of nowhere and say something like “stop growing Frankenfem freak weed” or “stay away from fem trash” before I even tell them it was a plant grown from fem seed. Seems to be whispers of truth to it being more a fem issue than anything. Nobodies really soilidky pinned it down. I believe a plant pollinated without the Y chromosome makes adjustments in its future generation. It wants the good pollen from the male. It prefers it. It’s what happens more often in nature I guess. It instills in its offsprings dna the predisposition to pump up the ovules in anticipation of a season where male pollen may be scarce. It needs the best chances of pollination possible, hence big ovules. Of course the plant doesn’t think but I believe it’s how it’s played out. A side paranoia involves my tap watering exaggerating the effect to the point of unnecessary crackle
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danjac82
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Pulled a bracht apart and took the ovule out at like day 14 flower. The thing was green as always early on and nearly as big as the tiniest seed you could plant and germinate if you can envision that. Unnecessarily huge ovule. They are oversized inside the preflowers before flip even with these fems
JohnDee
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There's been a lot of talk about these micro-seeds lately. It's a little more work growing photoperiod plants but well worth it IMHO...
JD
danjac82
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For sure. I’ve honestly only grew regular brick weed seeds and had some hit or miss results but never the large crackle ovules. Started ordering from breeders two years ago and has been fem seeds each time. Ovule problem started the first time I harvested a fem plant. Has remained a problem to this day. For regulars, I’m looking at bodhi, Rare Dankness, mr nice and a few others. You deal with any of those guys?
Roger A. Shrubber
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not ready, way too many white pistils yet, does NOT look like they've hit the bulking stage...at the point you took those pics, you should have at LEAST three weeks to go, and your potency AND yield would be at least 50% more
Roger A. Shrubber
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they're always full of thc-a. as it ripens they'll turn milky white, then slowly turn amber, and start to shrink. the plant is always producing new trichs, so you'll always have a few clears, so don't wait till you see none, or you'll be waiting forever. my personal sweet spot is 5-10% amber, and as few clears as possible...
and the whole amber thing is situational, a lot of strains have had the trait bred out of them, if you're getting to the point where you have over 60% milky and don't see any amber yet, you probably won't, so just keep an eye on the percentage of milky to clear, and go when it looks right to you
danjac82
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Feels somewhat better to keep hearing they’re early. You mentioned the blue widow plant didn’t look to even be in the bulking phase yet. A little info on the plant. It was small with smaller buds and colas. It actually was maturing into flower very fast compared to most I’ve watched grow or grew myself before. Colas starting pumping up with start of fox tail look at about 40 days or so. Pistils were probably 90% red by day 50 and calyxes appeared to be mostly all swoll. My eyes suck and it looked like mostly cloudy with some amber but you’re probably right. They could have swoll more. Could have got more milky than cloudy. Here’s the pic of the closeup trichs again from one of the more mature buds at top of plant. I think I’m looking at a lot of cloudy and maybe 25% amber
