Waterworld: The Ulysses Cut

vostok

Well-Known Member
A fan-edit cut of the 1995 movie Waterworld is now available as an official Blu-ray release. The original "Ulysses" cut was crowdsourced using extra scenes from various TV broadcasts and publicly shared on The Pirate Bay more than a decade ago. The Blu-ray has been released by Arrow Film, but whether the original 'editor' is aware of it is unknown.

While it’s not one of the most critically acclaimed movies of the recent decades, Waterworld has reached cult status among a subgroup of film fans.


The post-apocalyptic film, featuring Kevin Costner in a lead role, first premiered in 1995. Since then, it’s been shown on TV repeatedly and released on various other media including VHS, DVD, and Blu-ray.

The latest Blu-ray version, created by Arrow Films, was actually sent out just this week. Despite Waterworld being more than two decades old, many fans were eager to get their hands on the copy.

The release includes three Waterworld cuts which were newly restored from the original material. That by itself would be enough to get proper fans excited, but it’s the inclusion of the infamous “Ulysses Cut” that was most anticipated.

Waterworld is known for its many different versions, but this one never officially aired anywhere. It was created by a fan who, together with others, set out to make the longest uncensored edit of Waterworld possible.

The origin of this fan-edit, well documented by the Unheard Nerd, started in 2005.


At the time, a user of the Original Trilogy forum asked if anyone had access to the 40 minutes of Waterworld material that appeared in an ABC broadcast. This generated a long thread where users shared and compared different versions of the film.

In 2006, a user named “Mcfly89,” showed his interest in the project.

“This project sounds great! Is this from a VHS or better? Could anyone post some screenshots? I can’t wait to see this on myspleen or another torrent site,” he wrote.

Mcfly89 later took the lead and after crowdsourcing copies of different broadcasts, he set out to combine these into a long uncensored edit of Waterworld.

The project progressed slowly and by November 2007 the name “Ulysses was first mentioned.

This title refers to the unnamed mariner played by Kevin Costner. He’s given this name toward the end of the film in a scene that was taken out of the theatrical version.

With a name for the project, Mcfly89 continued his work. Helped by other members, who also assisted with an appropriate DVD-cover, the fan-made DVD was ready by the summer of 2008.


Many Waterworld fans welcomed the “Ulysses” release and it was even extended by ‘Zaaacharias’ a few years later. It’s not clear whether the original makers were happy with it. Film fans generally see fan-edits as important preservation projects, but copyright holders have gone after such releases as well.

Fast forward another decade and now the Ulysses cut has been released legitimately on a Blu-Ray disc put together by Arrow Films. The movie company used the name of the cut, but it was obviously reconstructed from original footage, not the broadcasts that were used in the fan-edit.

We reached out to Arrow Films to ask what its motivation was and whether it consulted Mcfly89, but the company didn’t respond. We had no luck tracking down Mcfly89 either, who is not mentioned in any of the official Blu-ray release details.

“High Definition Blu-ray (1080p) presentation of the extended European Ulysses cut, which include previously censored shots and dialogue,” is how Arrow Films describes the version.
Waterworld fans surely haven’t forgotten about the cut’s origins. Mcfly89 is mentioned in several reviews, including this on Amazon, from “Lego Trooper” who’s eager to know more about how this official release came about.


“On this lovely 3 disc edition is finally the Ulysses cut which was fan made from a number of different recordings from different cuts of the film shown on TV. The fan in question ‘Mcfly89’ surely deserves a shout out for his efforts.

“It would probably be an interesting read or feature to know how between Universal, Arrow and Mcfly89 The Ulysses Cut has eventually arrived as a 1080p edition,” Lego Trooper adds.

The story is quite remarkable already but we believe that Arrow Films missed a major opportunity here. But perhaps the full story will come out one day, in another decade or so.

One of my favorite movies
 

Boatguy

Well-Known Member
A fan-edit cut of the 1995 movie Waterworld is now available as an official Blu-ray release. The original "Ulysses" cut was crowdsourced using extra scenes from various TV broadcasts and publicly shared on The Pirate Bay more than a decade ago. The Blu-ray has been released by Arrow Film, but whether the original 'editor' is aware of it is unknown.

While it’s not one of the most critically acclaimed movies of the recent decades, Waterworld has reached cult status among a subgroup of film fans.


The post-apocalyptic film, featuring Kevin Costner in a lead role, first premiered in 1995. Since then, it’s been shown on TV repeatedly and released on various other media including VHS, DVD, and Blu-ray.

The latest Blu-ray version, created by Arrow Films, was actually sent out just this week. Despite Waterworld being more than two decades old, many fans were eager to get their hands on the copy.

The release includes three Waterworld cuts which were newly restored from the original material. That by itself would be enough to get proper fans excited, but it’s the inclusion of the infamous “Ulysses Cut” that was most anticipated.

Waterworld is known for its many different versions, but this one never officially aired anywhere. It was created by a fan who, together with others, set out to make the longest uncensored edit of Waterworld possible.

The origin of this fan-edit, well documented by the Unheard Nerd, started in 2005.


At the time, a user of the Original Trilogy forum asked if anyone had access to the 40 minutes of Waterworld material that appeared in an ABC broadcast. This generated a long thread where users shared and compared different versions of the film.

In 2006, a user named “Mcfly89,” showed his interest in the project.

“This project sounds great! Is this from a VHS or better? Could anyone post some screenshots? I can’t wait to see this on myspleen or another torrent site,” he wrote.

Mcfly89 later took the lead and after crowdsourcing copies of different broadcasts, he set out to combine these into a long uncensored edit of Waterworld.

The project progressed slowly and by November 2007 the name “Ulysses was first mentioned.

This title refers to the unnamed mariner played by Kevin Costner. He’s given this name toward the end of the film in a scene that was taken out of the theatrical version.

With a name for the project, Mcfly89 continued his work. Helped by other members, who also assisted with an appropriate DVD-cover, the fan-made DVD was ready by the summer of 2008.


Many Waterworld fans welcomed the “Ulysses” release and it was even extended by ‘Zaaacharias’ a few years later. It’s not clear whether the original makers were happy with it. Film fans generally see fan-edits as important preservation projects, but copyright holders have gone after such releases as well.

Fast forward another decade and now the Ulysses cut has been released legitimately on a Blu-Ray disc put together by Arrow Films. The movie company used the name of the cut, but it was obviously reconstructed from original footage, not the broadcasts that were used in the fan-edit.

We reached out to Arrow Films to ask what its motivation was and whether it consulted Mcfly89, but the company didn’t respond. We had no luck tracking down Mcfly89 either, who is not mentioned in any of the official Blu-ray release details.

“High Definition Blu-ray (1080p) presentation of the extended European Ulysses cut, which include previously censored shots and dialogue,” is how Arrow Films describes the version.
Waterworld fans surely haven’t forgotten about the cut’s origins. Mcfly89 is mentioned in several reviews, including this on Amazon, from “Lego Trooper” who’s eager to know more about how this official release came about.


“On this lovely 3 disc edition is finally the Ulysses cut which was fan made from a number of different recordings from different cuts of the film shown on TV. The fan in question ‘Mcfly89’ surely deserves a shout out for his efforts.

“It would probably be an interesting read or feature to know how between Universal, Arrow and Mcfly89 The Ulysses Cut has eventually arrived as a 1080p edition,” Lego Trooper adds.

The story is quite remarkable already but we believe that Arrow Films missed a major opportunity here. But perhaps the full story will come out one day, in another decade or so.

One of my favorite movies
Wasn't this in the record books for biggest flop for poduction expense?
I like it and get yelled at every time i try to watch it, she doesnt understand
 

vostok

Well-Known Member
but even back in 1995 during the movie and a toke I figured out



(with my casino wrist watch calculator)

if both poles melted the sea would rise by 60 meters not the 25000 feet claimed in er Hollywood

but then Hollywood didn't bullshit so much back then

maybe no marvel corp?

I saw it again last night

extra 40 mins makes the story complete

only shows how much control bankers have over movies

the future of pirating ...perhaps
 

MichiganMedGrower

Well-Known Member
but even back in 1995 during the movie and a toke I figured out



(with my casino wrist watch calculator)

if both poles melted the sea would rise by 60 meters not the 25000 feet claimed in er Hollywood

but then Hollywood didn't bullshit so much back then

maybe no marvel corp?

I saw it again last night

extra 40 mins makes the story complete

only shows how much control bankers have over movies

the future of pirating ...perhaps

I think your futuristic Casio* wristwatch is correct. Thats why we would have “Islandworld”.

Be pretty crowded for the non-gilled folk.
 

vostok

Well-Known Member
Just remember that floating ice, after melting, does not change the water level (try it in a glass). Then, most of the North Pole ice (or the one floating around Antarctica)

will not modified the sea level, in a significant way (but it will have a great impact on the sea water salinity, with other potential dynamical consequences as changing the ocean currents’ path).

On the other hand, if all the continental ice (the one over land, as in Geenland, Antarctica, mountains, etc) is melted down, you will have between 66 up to 80 meters higher sea level

https://www.quora.com/If-all-the-ice-on-Earth-melts-how-high-would-the-sea-level-rise
 

vostok

Well-Known Member
Wasn't this in the record books for biggest flop for poduction expense?
I like it and get yelled at every time i try to watch it, she doesnt understand
That Sweetie is the point of this thread

had they included the missing footage

then just perhaps they would have made their monies back

Depth Gauge: [Sees the Mariner's lit flare about to fall on the oil. An end to his miserable existence] .... Oh, thank God!

https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Waterworld#tab=summary
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus

redivider

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Hate to say it but WaterWorld is an amazing Sci-fi flick.... yes I said it- it is absolutely brilliant...

I think Costner was the ONE mistake that movie made. He was a romantic, panty-wetting figure, not an action dude. This movie would've done better with another person in the lead role...

But the movie is quintessentially 90's with the visuals, the music, the production scale, the practical effects.... no wonder it was one of the most expensive movies ever made..... but the IP is very good and it is too bad it didn't turn into a franchise.....

people pan the acting, the 'environmentalist' message, the stupid gills on Costner... I don't care.... I like this movie and no amount of Costner is going to change that....

I've never seen the Ulysses cut though so I'll have to check it out....
 

vostok

Well-Known Member
Hate to say it but WaterWorld is an amazing Sci-fi flick.... yes I said it- it is absolutely brilliant...

I think Costner was the ONE mistake that movie made. He was a romantic, panty-wetting figure, not an action dude. This movie would've done better with another person in the lead role...

But the movie is quintessentially 90's with the visuals, the music, the production scale, the practical effects.... no wonder it was one of the most expensive movies ever made..... but the IP is very good and it is too bad it didn't turn into a franchise.....

people pan the acting, the 'environmentalist' message, the stupid gills on Costner... I don't care.... I like this movie and no amount of Costner is going to change that....

I've never seen the Ulysses cut though so I'll have to check it out....
So who would you have in the lead role

mine is sean connery
 

redivider

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Sean Connery.... maybe a touch too old.....

The top actors around Costner's age are quite the A-list... Candidates are Pierce Brosnan, Mel Gibson, Michael Keaton, Denzel Washington...

Brosnan was doing 007, Gibson was doing other flicks, Lethal Weapon and what not-

Bruce Willis was doing Die Hard....

Keaton had done the Batman flicks and is somewhat credible as an action star.... maybe Liam Neeson... but at the time I think he was most known for Schindler's List and I'm not even sure when that one came out or if it was in production at the same time as this....

Tommy Lee Jones is too one dimensional (cowboy sheriff) to be a credible fish man....

Maybe John Travolta - no not Travolta - he did Phenomenon the year later and that movie is also a Sci-fi/fantasy delight (cheap, low budget production, with mediocre directing, leave the cast with a heavy burden and they pull it off, and it is a great cast top to bottom, the sound editing in that movie is also wonderfully 90s)

maybe Costner wasn't the star the movie needed, but it was the one it deserved...

Edit: Robert Redford might have been a good fit.... a bit older so maybe the swimming and all that would've been hard...
 
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