Kamala Harris will announce her bid for 2020 on Jan 21

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schuylaar

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Padawanbater2 said:
Harris says she's progressive. She vocally supports a progressive agenda.

The problem I have with her is that I don't believe what she says. I think she says she supports a progressive agenda because it's politically beneficial for her. Knowing she is running for president in 2020 kind of confirms that. I think she's lying to garner progressive support. The reason I think she's lying is because her voting record in congress does not reflect a progressive. It reflects someone vying for power. Playing the political game.
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just like Tmobile CEO and entourage checking into Trump DC to assist with Sprint merger?..the same hotel with restaurant that could've catered the Clemson dinner at the WH?

i don't believe her either..so far, they're ALL duds..warren, gabbard and gillebrand.

i did notice Bernie and Booker together at MLK celebration:wink:..mentioned it to one of my rides- she said that would be a dream ticket.
 
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Fogdog

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Padawanbater2 said:
Harris says she's progressive. She vocally supports a progressive agenda.

The problem I have with her is that I don't believe what she says. I think she says she supports a progressive agenda because it's politically beneficial for her. Knowing she is running for president in 2020 kind of confirms that. I think she's lying to garner progressive support. The reason I think she's lying is because her voting record in congress does not reflect a progressive. It reflects someone vying for power. Playing the political game.
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Before I can understand that post you must answer my question of what do you mean by progressive? To help me understand, give me five or six names of politicians in Congress today with at least two years in office who you call progressive.

Specifically what votes in the Senate did Harris make that makes her not a progressive? Give me five or six please.

Harris's lifetime score on crucial progressive legislation at Progressive Punch is 99.6%. For reference, Sanders is 96.1% , Chuck Schumer is in the middle of the pack with 90% and your reviled Doug Manchin is 55.2%., second from the bottom.

https://progressivepunch.org/scores.htm?x=38&y=11&house=senate&party=&sort=name&order=down

I think her record as Attorney General isn't spotless. I think there is plenty to discuss about her actions when negotiating with banks for their predation in 2000's. I simply want the discussion about Democratic candidates to be about facts, not just what you think or propaganda.
 
Fogdog

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ttystikk said:
You're a know nothing loudmouth who wouldn't know real journalism if you were forced to confront it.

And your cheap attempts at propaganda are laughable.
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LOL Says the guy who posts from propaganda sites.

I used to go into those posts and every time I could point out where they bent or miscast their reports. Then I realized you only care to read articles that confirm your bias and reject facts if they don't.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Fogdog said:
LOL Says the guy who posts from propaganda sites.

I used to go into those posts and every time I could point out where they bent or miscast their reports. Then I realized you only care to read articles that confirm your bias and reject facts if they don't.
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I post my sources and they're far more credible than the 5 MSM state propaganda shills.

I love how you call Pulitzer Prize winning journalists propaganda. Lol

You are lying and you don't bother to actually read anything. That makes you the same as most of the right wing nuts here.
 
Unclebaldrick

Unclebaldrick

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ttystikk said:
I post my sources and they're far more credible than the 5 MSM state propaganda shills.

I love how you call Pulitzer Prize winning journalists propaganda. Lol

You are lying and you don't bother to actually read anything. That makes you the same as most of the right wing nuts here.
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Jesus Tty, do even hear yourself? It would be funny if it weren't so damn sad.
 
Unclebaldrick

Unclebaldrick

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ttystikk said:
I get it; you think Pulitzer Prize and Cracker Jack are the same thing.

And you still concede the argument every time you make a personal attack.
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Do you have any idea how many times you have conceded the argument for other people based on nothing but your own ego? It's quite funny.

Nobody here takes you seriously. Nobody anywhere takes you seriously.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Unclebaldrick said:
Do you have any idea how many times you have conceded the argument for other people based on nothing but your own ego? It's quite funny.

Nobody here takes you seriously. Nobody anywhere takes you seriously.
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Hi nobody.

You speak for no one but yourself.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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ttystikk said:
I post my sources and they're far more credible than the 5 MSM state propaganda shills.

I love how you call Pulitzer Prize winning journalists propaganda. Lol

You are lying and you don't bother to actually read anything. That makes you the same as most of the right wing nuts here.
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I went through six or more of your posts from that site and others. I showed where they misrepresented or selectively used information to create false impressions in the way of propaganda. That site especially. So, you can wail all you want. I presented the facts to you and they were as you like to say, pearls to swine. You simply don't care about verifiable facts.

When you post factual information, I don't call it out. You only see and remember what little gets to you through your cognitive bias-filter. So naturally you make up shit to fill in the gaps that had been filled with fact.

Speaking of which, why do you support Assad and his use of Sarin gas on civilians?
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Fogdog said:
I went through six or more of your posts from that site and others. I showed where they misrepresented or selectively used information to create false impressions in the way of propaganda. That site especially. So, you can wail all you want. I presented the facts to you and they were as you like to say, pearls to swine. You simply don't care about verifiable facts.

When you post factual information, I don't call it out. You only see and remember what little gets to you through your cognitive bias-filter. So naturally you make up shit to fill in the gaps that had been filled with fact.

Speaking of which, why do you support Assad and his use of Sarin gas on civilians?
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Bullshit.
 
londonfog

londonfog

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ttystikk said:
Nope. He doesn't want it. That's why he's crisscrossing the country at 78 years of age.

Show us your MAGA hat.
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Of course he is crisscrossing the country at 78. He does not have long to make as much money as he can. He enjoys being in the 1% and intends to always be a part of it.

I think the slogan MAGA and the way it is used is racist as fuck, so why would I have a fucking hat ?
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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londonfog said:
Of course he is crisscrossing the country at 78. He does not have long to make as much money as he can. He enjoys being in the 1% and intends to always be a part of it.

I think the slogan MAGA and the way it is used is racist as fuck, so why would I have a fucking hat ?
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I think you're deliberately misrepresenting his efforts and intentions because what he stands for bothers you.

Why?
 
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