PH rise, EC rise, less water usage

rkymtnman

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do that but skip the bud candy. if there is a bit of rot, the bacteria will have all the food they need.

i'd give them a max dose now and maybe another 12 hrs later. you want more good bacteria than bad.
 

rkymtnman

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that might work. if your hydro store is close, go there and buy hydroguard, great white, really any beneficial bacteria for roots.

actually, i'd skip that roots stuff. doesn't list bacteria. it's more for clones to stimulate root growth.
 

foliage2018

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that might work. if your hydro store is close, go there and buy hydroguard, great white, really any beneficial bacteria for roots.

actually, i'd skip that roots stuff. doesn't list bacteria. it's more for clones to stimulate root growth.
hydroguard, great white are not on the EU market"... SubCulture from GH is very expensive in my application.

Have you ever tried to kill everything with H2O2, flush all of that few days later and start to adding bennies to make a new environment? Or is it a bad idea at all?
 

foliage2018

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I will need to go to the growshop...what about using Piranha and Tarantula from AN? They are expensive too, but could help...
 

rkymtnman

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hmm, well you have to pick one way or the other.

sounds like sterile would be better for you. i would actually use liquid bleach instead (you'll have to look up dosage instructions for what % of bleach you have there). or if you can find HTH pool shock. but you need a very accurate scalle for that.

the benefit to chlorine is that it is a tertiary nutrient that is used by the plant.
 

foliage2018

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hmm, well you have to pick one way or the other.

sounds like sterile would be better for you. i would actually use liquid bleach instead (you'll have to look up dosage instructions for what % of bleach you have there). or if you can find HTH pool shock. but you need a very accurate scalle for that.

the benefit to chlorine is that it is a tertiary nutrient that is used by the plant.
i can give a try to that Voodoo juice which I have. If it doesn't help I can use those sterilizing thing.
Bleach is Na2CO3·1.5H2O2? Just to be sure what i have to search for in my language.
Pool shocks are the same? Just a chlorine in different concentrations?
 

shawnery

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That is root rot as a generic term. That is not from staining. I've used AN, the same ones, and my roots were tan nit snotty brown.

You need something in there. Either add hydroguard but I think it's past that or do an h202 bath.

In my opinion those roots are awfully awful, sorry!

I just did some up close looking and the worse they look the fewer lateral roots you have. Grab o e of the darkest ones at the bottom with your finger and slightly pull but not enough to break it. If it breaks and leaves a skinny root behind thay is a bad sign. Either way it's going to continue to spread unless the buckets are separate and even then you could be moving it around on your hands and tools.
 

foliage2018

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That is root rot as a generic term. That is not from staining. I've used AN, the same ones, and my roots were tan nit snotty brown.

You need something in there. Either add hydroguard but I think it's past that or do an h202 bath.

In my opinion those roots are awfully awful, sorry!
Oh my... so go the sterile way asap instead of trying to cure it by voodoo juice?
 

shawnery

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I'm not saying that for sure. I say try your active route and see how it goes. Usually active bacteria is to keep it from happening and not to cure an all out break out.

I say follow your path but remember what has been said so when or if it fails you know where to go from there.
 

shawnery

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The first pic is root rot and same leaf symptoms as you. The second pic is what roots should look like.

Edit: Further more both my plants in the same system. Firat one is what happens with my tap water but the second what happens with RO water!
 

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rkymtnman

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I tried to slightly pull some roots and they broke instantly... without any force
yep, you need to go nuclear on them with bennies or sterile. you pick which one but whichever one you pick, do that for the rest of bloom. don't go back and forth b/t the 2 ways
 

shawnery

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If you have extra buckets you should fill those buckets with the water and hydrogen peroxide solution and stick your plants in those and let them sit in there for a while oh, I don't know the exact time you can look it up. While this is happening you should clean out your entire system with hot water and chlorine. If you can't do this then just treat your system with the H2O2
 

shawnery

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The minute I saw that one crispy leaf with the twisting ends I knew it was root rot that was my first fucking sign that I noticed. I had deficiency showing before then but like you I thought it was a deficiency and not a lockout issue which is what that crispy this Leaf is caused by root rot
 

foliage2018

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The minute I saw that one crispy leaf with the twisting ends I knew it was root rot that was my first fucking sign that I noticed. I had deficiency showing before then but like you I thought it was a deficiency and not a lockout issue which is what that crispy this Leaf is caused by root rot
i hope it's not too late for recovery... i know the yield will be worse but I need to finish them.
 

shawnery

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i hope it's not too late for recovery... i know the yield will be worse but I need to finish them.
I'm surprised you got it so late during flowering. Usually root rot attacks underdeveloped or sick plants. I would assume it should recover better because it's so established though.

Here's to hoping the best!
 
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