is this the middle ages?

[Rob Roy]

I haven’t assumed anything, I was asking you how you stop the shit from running down on to your yard. Simple question I thought for an intelligent person who seems to think he’s winning. Please answer the question. I’ll ask again, how do you stop the shit, lets assume it’s you property as there is no creek at the top of the hill to keep your now shitty beer cold.

Well, once it does run onto my property, the person who owns the trash or the property it resides on is no longer using THEIR property as they wish are they? Now they're using MY property absent my consent.

Yawn.

Still winning.

 

[Unclebaldrick]

Well, once it does run onto my property, the person who owns the trash or the property it resides on is no longer using THEIR property as they wish are they? Now they're using MY property absent my consent.

Yawn.

Still winning.

Sorry, you are not winning and never were. That is your trash. They didn't invent the rules of physics.

 

[Rob Roy]

What does it matter to you who’s land it is, it’s not yours so you can’t control what happens there right? Also did you buy your land or is land ownership that you had to pay for not a form of slavery? Someone forced you to pay, force is slavery? In your world should everyone not be able to live where they choose and not be forced to live only where they can afford to live? Please answer the questions so you can keep winning, although it doesn’t look like winning to me. I guess it’s like my daughter first baseball team at 5. They didn’t keep score so everyone won ......yup still winning even if losing.

What you have described is one of the peculiarities of so called "public property" . You or I don't have legal or actual possession of the property, but if we are there, we don't lose possession over our own body do we ?

For instance the minute you step off your property, that doesn't mean a herd of sex starved walruses can immediately say "hey Budley's off his property, let's all go rape him, because he doesn't own the property he's on" .

Ideally land ownership would be thru just acquisition, that's a huge topic, we can go there sometime if you like.

Your daughter throws like a girl.

 

[Rob Roy]

Sorry, you are not winning and never were. That is your trash. They didn't invent the rules of physics.

Okay, I park my car on a slope at a friends house. You live downhill in a trashy potato patch. The e-brake let's go on my car and it rolls onto your property destroying years of your labor you put into a shrine honoring Hillary Clinton's kankles.

Do you now own my car? Does Hillary say "what difference does it make" ?

 

[Rob Roy]

I would just like to point out that asking about the neighbor's land ownership and use is a violation of my freedom. Owning that land anonymously is a right as is not revealing the purpose of the foul pile of nasty trash. Him wanting to know the composition of the trash fills me with authoritarian dread somewhat like that of having a loaded gun pointing at me. The only thing about the land that matters to him is that it isn't his.

The only thing he should care about is if he has something like cholera in the effluvium, and only when that enters his property in which case, it is his problem and his problem alone.

So you own the land then? Is that why you are claiming to be violated? I should have known that you liked to be violated in trashy ways.

 

[Unclebaldrick]

Okay, I park my car on a slope at a friends house. You live downhill in a trashy potato patch. The e-brake let's go on my car and it rolls onto your property destroying years of your labor you put into a shrine honoring Hillary Clinton's kankles.

Do you now my car? Does Hillary say "what difference does it make" ?

It sounds like you are capable of realizing we live in a society when it suits you.

Still winning.

 

[Unclebaldrick]

So you own the land then? Is that why you are claiming to be violated? I should have known that you liked to be violated in trashy ways.

I resent you asking. You have no right to know who owns that land. Just asking that question makes me a slave. Why are you pointing that gun at me, fat boy?

 

[Rob Roy]

God it’s like a pimple I know will go away if I just leave it the fuck alone. But I’ve stopped looking at Robs replies through the week, it just pisses me off, stupid people do that. But here, I’ll bite, he seems to miss me lol.


So now you have a dispute resolution group to solve all of the issues that arise, ok starting to get somewhere with how your world, in your mind, works, that’s good. Who appoints this group if that’s what it is, or is it one person, appointed by the group? Please elaborate? And what if the problem of the shit running down hill cannot be resolved by this group, I call it group because you haven’t defined it, then what, there is still shit running down the hill. Is this not kind of like the court system now, if an agreement can not be reached? Now we have a group of people being shit on by people that know they can do as they please because any forced compliance would be deemed slavery. In your world how then do you stop the shit from flowing? Please try and answer these questions accurately as the ball ends at midnight. I know it’s hard for you, but I do feel we are getting to the core workings of your world/mind.

I'm not claiming all problems are going to be resolved under any scenario involving humans. I'm claiming that a central authority which prevents other possibilities is an aspect of the problem and often isn't an aspect of the solution.

When you have a central coercion based authority, a problem is baked into that scenario from the onset, (it's coercion based). So we already KNOW for a fact that system can't possibly be the answer to problem resolution by virtue of it's lasting coercion based hierarchical nature. It disallows other possibilities doesn't it ?

 

[Rob Roy]

It sounds like you are capable of realizing we live in a society when it suits you.

Still winning.

I'm usually very polite to most people, but sometimes I treat people how they deserve to be treated. By the way, I'm not fat, either. I'm large though. Huuuge even.

 

[Rob Roy]

I resent you asking. You have no right to know who owns that land. Just asking that question makes me a slave. Why are you pointing that gun at me, fat boy?

Land which appears to be unowned might be subject to acquisition by other people though, since unowned land was the original status before people occupied it and mixed their labor with it, to create "ownership".

You might want to notice people, say maybe put up a sign or something to let others know it's your land. Why let a potential dispute arise when it can easily be nipped in the bud so to speak.

Pointing a gun? No sir, that's not a pistol in my pocket.

 

[Unclebaldrick]

Land which appears to be unowned might be subject to acquisition by other people though, since unowned land was the original status before people occupied it and mixed their labor with it, to create "ownership".

You might want to notice people, say maybe put up a sign or something to let others know it's your land. Why let a potential arise when it can easily be nipped in the bud so to speak.

Pointing a gun? No sir, that's not a pistol in my pocket.

So what happens if your neighbor has a car parked on their property and leaves it running and the prevailing winds brings a cloud of noxious exhaust that envelopes your home making it unfit for living?

Is that a problem? Why? They have every right to run their personal car on their personal property. Why are you trying to make them your slave?

 

[Rob Roy]

So what happens if your neighbor has a car parked on their property and leaves it running and the prevailing winds brings a cloud of noxious exhaust that envelopes your home making it unfit for living?

Is that a problem? Why? They have every right to run their personal car on their personal property. Why are you trying to make them your slave?

The first thing I'd probably do is ask them if they'd like some help tuning their car. Always seek the high ground ways to resolve things if you can. Of course that is my choice to offer help or not, I'm under no obligation to associate with them if I chose not to.

If you remained on your property but shot your gun from your potato patch and a bullet hit me in my hairy ass while I was taking a massive liquidy dump in my outhouse on my property, would you say that the thing that exited your property (the bullet) could be traceable to you and that you have some responsibility for it ?

Now let's go with a slighty different scenario, let's say I was taking a massive liguidy dump on your potatoes and you had warned me before that nobody fucked with your potatoes and I did anyway, would you have a right to use defensive force to make me leave your property alone?

 

[Rob Roy]

So who has been forced to open a restaurant

That poor kid at Wendy's was forced to clean a foul floor wasn't he? Disgusting.

 

[Unclebaldrick]

The first thing I'd probably do is ask them if they'd like some help tuning their car. Always seek the high ground ways to resolve things if you can. Of course that is my choice to offer help or not, I'm under no obligation to associate with them if I chose not to.

If you remained on your property but shot your gun from your potato patch and a bullet hit me in my hairy ass while I was taking a massive liquidy dump in my outhouse on my property, would you say that the thing that exited your property (the bullet) could be traceable to you and that you have some responsibility for it ?

Now let's go with a slighty different scenario, let's say I was taking a massive liguidy dump on your potaotes and you had warned me before that nobody fucked with your potatoes and I did anyway, would you have a right to use defensive force to make me leave your property alone?

Nope, I wouldn't say that the bullet that hit you on your own property was not my responsibility because I am not a mentally impaired dumbass that argues that we should have no regulations over such things. That's your burden to bear. After all, shouldn't a person have the right to run their own car on their own property without having their right to ownership and privacy rights raped by their nattering next door neighbor? (I would answer "no, they shouldn't" - but this is your petard up your asshole.) Me exercising those rights doesn't solve your problem of you having a cloud of CO around your house 24/7.

Still winning. You were born a slave by your definition and you will die one. I hope you get your bowels to function properly - even slaves deserve that.

 

[schuylaar]

That poor kid at Wendy's was forced to clean a foul floor wasn't he? Disgusting.

 

[Rob Roy]

Nope, I wouldn't say that the bullet that hit you on your own property was not my responsibility because I am not a mentally impaired dumbass that argues that we should have no regulations over such things. That's your burden to bear. After all, shouldn't a person have the right to run their own car on their own property without having their right to ownership and privacy raped by their nattering next door neighbor?

Still winning. You were born a slave by your definition and you will die one. I hope you get your bowels to function properly - even slaves deserve that.

So, you believe that the institution which invented the term "collateral damage" as a blame displacing euphemism for their errant bullets when they actually kill innocent people should be the institution which has the final say on dispute resolutions involving bullets?

Isn't that interesting how you have so easily been mislead by your masters, slave?

STILL WINNING.

 

[Rob Roy]

Dark chocolate ? ( I hope)

 

[schuylaar]

Dark chocolate ? ( I hope)

newp..i just want bucky's friend from Wendy's to point at the offending pic..it's like a line-up..the cops call it a six-pack (line-up pics).

 

[Unclebaldrick]

Glad to see that your posts have remained consistent after your 36 hour hiatus.

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

If somebody dropped trash in front of my home, is that land their land or is it owned by somebody else ? Does the somebody else know / want trash there? What does the trash consist of?

what's it to you? you know you don't own the property...that's all you need to know. you have no control over it whatsoever, trying to control someone else's property without their permission is making them a slave.