BigHornBuds

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Question for anyone who can help. I’m pheno hunting for an elite cut (from seed) and have read a lot of different information. Does anyone think there is a guaranteed number for finding this classification of plant. I’m just wondering if there is a number that would guarantee a elite in the process e.g. 500/1000/10000.

I know the typical awnser is, “It’s like the lottery.” but that’s not what I’m looking for. More of a mathematical luck awnser or a “make your own luck awnser.”

As well is there any filial generation that would increase the chance of a pheno like this to appear? Would you have a higher chance trying to breed the plants to show a wide range of recessive genes and allow yourself to play with the widest genetic variation with seeds of a single cross, or would it be more productive to try to breed toward specific traits e.g. hash/trichome production and Pheno hunt out a stabilized line (I feel like you might loose quite a few traits in this process).
Pop a thousand beans n one will really stand out . Also what’s a standout in my setup might be a nightmare in yours .
The only way to know what a male or female will pass on is to grow them out .


But I popped 5 of HoneyStomper n one isn’t going anywhere.
I’ll be popping more CP ASAP.
 

BigHornBuds

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That's what is fucked up. I had 2 of those yellow cheap ph pens previously and the first one lasted over a year, the 2nd only a few months. So I figured I'd get a decent one and support the local shops but I got fucked on this one, lol.
Buy once / cry once
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For my own garden , I’m not big on the soil pen, I just check runoff . But is good when going to other gardens or outdoor plots to check for issues.
 

thenotsoesoteric

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Buy once / cry once
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For my own garden , I’m not big on the soil pen, I just check runoff . But is good when going to other gardens or outdoor plots to check for issues.
My brother said same thing. And honestly I was going to get a blue lab but I didnt want to order online. My goal was to support the local hydro shop but he didnt carry blue lab so I figure milwaukee was just as good. Well milwaukees customer service sucks, lol.
 

CoB_nUt

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Buy once / cry once
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For my own garden , I’m not big on the soil pen, I just check runoff . But is good when going to other gardens or outdoor plots to check for issues.
These are the pens I previously spoke of. Ir's weird because, when compared to my cheaper hanna's,when reading just my tap water before nutes, my blue labs are off. Hanna reads my tap at 240 ppm and 7.2-7.6 ph. My blue labs read. 220-240ppm and 8.1-9 ph!. After mixing nutes they both ph to 6.4. I ph down to 5.9-6.0. Not sure what that's about,my plants don't seem to mind tho.
Also, I think it has somethi g to do with keeping my ph probe wet. not sure.
 

SSGrower

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Once it popped , only one tap root, when I removed the casing you could see that the 2nd one was under developed n never broke through.

My other twin I have going , the runt isn’t taking to cloning , the heathy one is the worst hermy I have seen in a very very long time . I decided to toss all clones except 1 from that strain.
Can I ask for clairification on how this plant was a worse hermie than any other intersex plant.
Is it a perception thing, like more male flowers than female, or even numbers and intermixed on yhe flower sites.

I currently have a male that threw pistils in reveg, now that it is back in flower new growth looks like female, what is your opinion of this plant? I truely dont know what to make of it, it is throwing pollen from the previous male flowers but it does not look to be self pollinating, hard to tell at this point.

Seeking input as this is only the 2nd male I have revegged. Stress like low rh and low temp could be factors here.
 

thenotsoesoteric

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Isn’t the Milwaukee’s just a Hanna clone?
I don't think so. This is the pen I got

I stopped into the hydro store today and still no probe! I just was like "fuck it, I'll take my pen back and just buy a new flipping probe myself." If the replacement from Milwaukee ever really shows up I'll just keep it for back up. What a joke. I'm going to call Milwaukee myself tomorrow and see what the fudge is up. But honestly I'd like to ship the pen back accompanied by a big old piece of human fecal matter.
 

BigHornBuds

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Can I ask for clairification on how this plant was a worse hermie than any other intersex plant.
Is it a perception thing, like more male flowers than female, or even numbers and intermixed on yhe flower sites.

I currently have a male that threw pistils in reveg, now that it is back in flower new growth looks like female, what is your opinion of this plant? I truely dont know what to make of it, it is throwing pollen from the previous male flowers but it does not look to be self pollinating, hard to tell at this point.

Seeking input as this is only the 2nd male I have revegged. Stress like low rh and low temp could be factors here.
Some plants will start out female , budding normally then start tossing a few balls here n there, usually pretty low, & once stretch has stopped . This is mostly what I see. But sometimes you see a plant that’s starts tossing balls with cylax from the jump n top to bottom, I see these as more of a true hermaphrodite vs the other that’s more “bi’curios” , but still a hermi.

I haven’t revegged a male, never had the need , I just keep a small clone in veg .
Can you post pics of the reveg, sometimes the stress makes some funny growth,
Any chance that the new growth were stipules?
 
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BigHornBuds

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I don't think so. This is the pen I got

I stopped into the hydro store today and still no probe! I just was like "fuck it, I'll take my pen back and just buy a new flipping probe myself." If the replacement from Milwaukee ever really shows up I'll just keep it for back up. What a joke. I'm going to call Milwaukee myself tomorrow and see what the fudge is up. But honestly I'd like to ship the pen back accompanied by a big old piece of human fecal matter.
Ya that looks nothing like what I seen, I probably seen a Chinese knock-offs
 

Olive Drab Green

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Do you guys think anyone would be interested in any of my crosses so far? So far, I have [(Purple Haze x Malawi) x Kerala-dominant Oldtimer’s Haze] & [(Gypsy Cab x 1980s Houston Cut Shoreline) x Pre-‘98 Bubba Kush IBL]. Just curious what you guys think. I’m just wondering if those sound appealing to you guys. I also kind of want to know what they look like in other people’s gardens.

I’m also planning a purple Nepali-dominant Bangi Haze cross, which I plan to hit with Oldtimer’s Haze, then take that cross and hit it with Kali Mist F2 pollen.
 
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SSGrower

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Some plants will start out female , budding normally then start tossing a few balls here n there, usually pretty low, & once stretch has stopped . This is mostly what I see. But sometimes you see a plant that’s starts tossing balls with cylax from the jump n top to bottom, I see these as more of a true hermaphrodite vs the other that’s more bi’curios , but still a hermi.

I haven’t revegged a male, never had the need , I just keep a small clone in veg .
Can you post pics of the reveg, sometimes the stress makes some funny growth,
Any chance that the new growth were stipules?
These are 13 day old pics, will get updated ones tomorrow.
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This qas just before switching back to 12/12, not a full on reveg but definitely was throwin balls, was hoping to chuck it but now hoping it will seed itself.
 

BigHornBuds

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Do you guys think anyone would be interested in any of my crosses so far? So far, I have [(Purple Haze x Malawi) x Kerala-dominant Oldtimer’s Haze] & [(Gypsy Cab x 1980s Houston Cut Shoreline) x Pre-‘98 Bubba Kush IBL]. Just curious what you guys think. I’m just wondering if those sound appealing to you guys. I also kind of want to know what they look like in other people’s gardens.

I’m also planning a purple Nepali-dominant Bangi Haze cross, which I plan to hit with Oldtimer’s Haze, then take that cross and hit it with Kali Mist F2 pollen.
I’m sure some sativa lovers would give them a go.
 

blowincherrypie

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Do you guys think anyone would be interested in any of my crosses so far? So far, I have [(Purple Haze x Malawi) x Kerala-dominant Oldtimer’s Haze] & [(Gypsy Cab x 1980s Houston Cut Shoreline) x Pre-‘98 Bubba Kush IBL]. Just curious what you guys think. I’m just wondering if those sound appealing to you guys. I also kind of want to know what they look like in other people’s gardens.

I’m also planning a purple Nepali-dominant Bangi Haze cross, which I plan to hit with Oldtimer’s Haze, then take that cross and hit it with Kali Mist F2 pollen.
haze... shoreline.. and pre 98 bubba?? sounds very nice to me! Any pics?:eyesmoke:
 
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