Greenthumbs256
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I was looking at the 150 buck ones from htg they cover a 2x2 flower space Soni figured that would work for a 4x8 am I wrong?Those would have to be some big boards!
I was looking at the 150 buck ones from htg they cover a 2x2 flower space Soni figured that would work for a 4x8 am I wrong?Those would have to be some big boards!
You could be right, but I still think there's a huge price drop coming.I know they "LED" discussion has ended, but I wanted to share 1 more thing with you all.
I figured up what it cost me to build a 720 watt COB LED light for a 4x4 space. Will blast PAR way above mandatory CO2 induction. 1200 PAR at 12" above canopy. Right at 1 buck per watt. $700.00. That is with 5.88" heatsink(best) no tiny fans needed. with these heatsinks.
If you want pure power with running less COBs. Around 600.00 for 720- 900 watts.
Isn't as bad as what people think. If you can drill a hole in a pc of aluminum and follow some simple instructions, You will be amazed at what you can accomplish and never have to do anything to your lighting for 10 years.
Ok, I'm done .
You will need 8 of them.I was looking at the 150 buck ones from htg they cover a 2x2 flower space Soni figured that would work for a 4x8 am I wrong?
I just hooked up 6 QB 360pcs.each. they would do a 2x4' or 3 x 4' tent. at 1000mA.. About a 1000PAR at 6 or 8" above canopy. 210.00 for the Drivers and 280.00 for the boards.No heatsinks just fans. Any higher mA's and you will need to add a thin heatsink.I've been thinking about doing 4 quantum boards to cover a 4x8 space but until they get cheaper or I hit the lottery I just can't afford it!
Tell me your lying! I figured 4 would cover it dammit!You will need 8 of them.
But it's a customers market! And he's appealing to the customers! In my opinion they should learn from his lead, do more deals, take care of your ppl, stop being greedy man its pot!!! It's made for peace and love no one owns a certain gentic or type of plant it's for everyone!!!! Ppl are getting too caught up about the money and forgetting why they got started doing this in the first place! They can't be mad at him for doing what anyone would have done!Re: other breeders
Gu does not have a great rep within the seed breeding community. He started breeding with a Polar Bear OG male and a Monster Cookies male while they were still in testing. The way he’s pimped out Stardawg has pissed off anyone close to Top Dawg.
Probably the bigger problem are his constant sales and reverse auctions. If people can get a breeder’s packs at GPS for a fraction of the price as at another site, it’s going to deflate the value of their entire catalog. It’s also going to piss any other seedbanks they use because they’re still trying to sell stuff at the regular price. I’d honestly be surprised if any established breeders chose to sell through GPS. Maybe some newcomers just trying to get their stuff out there.
2x2 = 4ft^2.Tell me your lying! I figured 4 would cover it dammit!
Now thinking about yea screw me I'll never be able to afford this shit! It breaks my heart but I just don't think I'll ever own leds!
Do you enjoy your job? What would you say if someone said you should do your job for free? I love my job but I’d tell people to fuck off if they suggested I get paid less because I enjoy it. No breeder is getting rich. They should charge what people are willing to pay.But it's a customers market! And he's appealing to the customers! In my opinion they should learn from his lead, do more deals, take care of your ppl, stop being greedy man its pot!!! It's made for peace and love no one owns a certain gentic or type of plant it's for everyone!!!! Ppl are getting too caught up about the money and forgetting why they got started doing this in the first place! They can't be mad at him for doing what anyone would have done!
You could get a 1/4 lb of columbian red bud for 90 bucks and fresh green at 80/oz back then.Ppl are forgetting the whole reason we grow! Bc we love it! It's not about the money and if it is you prolly don't have very good bud! You have to love it and have a passion for it! Weed is prolly the most known thing in the world that everyone SHARES!!! I mean puff puff pass right! Now that it's all about money ppl have forgetten how to share! It just breaks my heart I wish I would have been around 20 30 years ago before it was all about money and business!
Ppl are forgetting the whole reason we grow! Bc we love it! It's not about the money and if it is you prolly don't have very good bud! You have to love it and have a passion for it! Weed is prolly the most known thing in the world that everyone SHARES!!! I mean puff puff pass right! Now that it's all about money ppl have forgetten how to share! It just breaks my heart I wish I would have been around 20 30 years ago before it was all about money and business!
You are gonna get left in our wakes if you don't get to buying.You could be right, but I still think there's a huge price drop coming.
Remember when LED replacements for incandescent bulbs hit the market? They were like $20 each -- and it still saved money to buy them.
Now they're less than $5.
Yes, Coco, some perlite and synthetic nutrients.Were you running coco in those shallow tubs you were growing in?
I don't work I just grow! But I get what your saying he's under cutting the market and driving down the price but in my opinion it's seeds they are way over priced to begin with!!! It's not like they a hard to get or make!Do you enjoy your job? What would you say if someone said you should do your job for free? I love my job but I’d tell people to fuck off if they suggested I get paid less because I enjoy it. No breeder is getting rich. They should charge what people are willing to pay.
That’s also how standard retail works. Any retailer has a price floor that they can not go below for every product, or else every retailer would continually try to undercut each other and the product value would plummet.
I get what you are saying but you are basically suggesting seed sellers act like a cartel and fix prices as opposed to a free market where the market decides the floor.Re: other breeders
Gu does not have a great rep within the seed breeding community. He started breeding with a Polar Bear OG male and a Monster Cookies male while they were still in testing. The way he’s pimped out Stardawg has pissed off anyone close to Top Dawg.
Probably the bigger problem are his constant sales and reverse auctions. If people can get a breeder’s packs at GPS for a fraction of the price as at another site, it’s going to deflate the value of their entire catalog. It’s also going to piss any other seedbanks they use because they’re still trying to sell stuff at the regular price. I’d honestly be surprised if any established breeders chose to sell through GPS. Maybe some newcomers just trying to get their stuff out there.
Like the hype genetics that everyone paid out their ass for from jigga415 and the cookie team?Who the hell loves growing untested herm prone chucks? I am sure some weirdos might. But I and many others do not.
You are right though some are involved with Cannabis because they love it. Just like some are involved because they love the idea of the money it can bring via the right amount of hype and online presence.
I said it before and I will say it again. I would rather pay out my ass for stable proven genetics that someone has put the time and effort into, then get a deal on this shit.
Cheers
US Americans are all about bacon pussy guns and bud! Oh and my beer!I get what you are saying but you are basically suggesting seed sellers act like a cartel and fix prices as opposed to a free market where the market decides the floor.
I can see arguments for both sides but I always thought you Americans were all about the free market.
As long as there's been money, and as long as there is money, it'll always be about the money, amigo. Except for people that have plenty of.....what's the word.....money.I wish I would have been around 20 30 years ago before it was all about money and business!
Ahhh....nostalgia !I always thought you Americans were all about the free market.