Greenpoint seeds!!

[Greenthumbs256]

Those would have to be some big boards!

I was looking at the 150 buck ones from htg they cover a 2x2 flower space Soni figured that would work for a 4x8 am I wrong?

 

[Chunky Stool]

I know they "LED" discussion has ended, but I wanted to share 1 more thing with you all.
I figured up what it cost me to build a 720 watt COB LED light for a 4x4 space. Will blast PAR way above mandatory CO2 induction. 1200 PAR at 12" above canopy. Right at 1 buck per watt. $700.00. That is with 5.88" heatsink(best) no tiny fans needed. with these heatsinks.
If you want pure power with running less COBs. Around 600.00 for 720- 900 watts.
Isn't as bad as what people think. If you can drill a hole in a pc of aluminum and follow some simple instructions, You will be amazed at what you can accomplish and never have to do anything to your lighting for 10 years.
Ok, I'm done .

You could be right, but I still think there's a huge price drop coming.
Remember when LED replacements for incandescent bulbs hit the market? They were like $20 each -- and it still saved money to buy them.
Now they're less than $5.

 

[Chunky Stool]

I was looking at the 150 buck ones from htg they cover a 2x2 flower space Soni figured that would work for a 4x8 am I wrong?

You will need 8 of them.

 

[NoWaistedSpace]

I've been thinking about doing 4 quantum boards to cover a 4x8 space but until they get cheaper or I hit the lottery I just can't afford it!

I just hooked up 6 QB 360pcs.each. they would do a 2x4' or 3 x 4' tent. at 1000mA.. About a 1000PAR at 6 or 8" above canopy. 210.00 for the Drivers and 280.00 for the boards.No heatsinks just fans. Any higher mA's and you will need to add a thin heatsink.
I am figuring 9 of these 360's would be perfect for a 4x4. About 700.00 .
I am going with the COBs for the win!

 

[Greenthumbs256]

You will need 8 of them.

Tell me your lying! I figured 4 would cover it dammit!

Now thinking about yea screw me I'll never be able to afford this shit! It breaks my heart but I just don't think I'll ever own leds!

 

[jayblaze710]

Re: other breeders

Gu does not have a great rep within the seed breeding community. He started breeding with a Polar Bear OG male and a Monster Cookies male while they were still in testing. The way he’s pimped out Stardawg has pissed off anyone close to Top Dawg.

Probably the bigger problem are his constant sales and reverse auctions. If people can get a breeder’s packs at GPS for a fraction of the price as at another site, it’s going to deflate the value of their entire catalog. It’s also going to piss any other seedbanks they use because they’re still trying to sell stuff at the regular price. I’d honestly be surprised if any established breeders chose to sell through GPS. Maybe some newcomers just trying to get their stuff out there.

 

[Greenthumbs256]

Re: other breeders

Gu does not have a great rep within the seed breeding community. He started breeding with a Polar Bear OG male and a Monster Cookies male while they were still in testing. The way he’s pimped out Stardawg has pissed off anyone close to Top Dawg.

Probably the bigger problem are his constant sales and reverse auctions. If people can get a breeder’s packs at GPS for a fraction of the price as at another site, it’s going to deflate the value of their entire catalog. It’s also going to piss any other seedbanks they use because they’re still trying to sell stuff at the regular price. I’d honestly be surprised if any established breeders chose to sell through GPS. Maybe some newcomers just trying to get their stuff out there.

But it's a customers market! And he's appealing to the customers! In my opinion they should learn from his lead, do more deals, take care of your ppl, stop being greedy man its pot!!! It's made for peace and love no one owns a certain gentic or type of plant it's for everyone!!!! Ppl are getting too caught up about the money and forgetting why they got started doing this in the first place! They can't be mad at him for doing what anyone would have done!

 

[jayblaze710]

Tell me your lying! I figured 4 would cover it dammit!

Now thinking about yea screw me I'll never be able to afford this shit! It breaks my heart but I just don't think I'll ever own leds!

2x2 = 4ft^2.
4x8 = 32ft^2. Yeah you’d need 8. I have seen that QB numbers tend to be more conservative compared to what some people are running them at. But 4 probably still wouldn’t cut it.

 

[Greenthumbs256]

Ppl are forgetting the whole reason we grow! Bc we love it! It's not about the money and if it is you prolly don't have very good bud! You have to love it and have a passion for it! Weed is prolly the most known thing in the world that everyone SHARES!!! I mean puff puff pass right! Now that it's all about money ppl have forgetten how to share! It just breaks my heart I wish I would have been around 20 30 years ago before it was all about money and business!

 

[Bstndutchy]

Dynamite diesel probably around week 3 of flower this will go 11 weeks if the weather will hold....nothing but organic soil and water just addedi some down to earth seabird guano and Langbeinite today and plucked some yellow leaves off , she is easy to grow but definitely not as smelly as Ecsd but does give a great functional high

 

[jayblaze710]

But it's a customers market! And he's appealing to the customers! In my opinion they should learn from his lead, do more deals, take care of your ppl, stop being greedy man its pot!!! It's made for peace and love no one owns a certain gentic or type of plant it's for everyone!!!! Ppl are getting too caught up about the money and forgetting why they got started doing this in the first place! They can't be mad at him for doing what anyone would have done!

Do you enjoy your job? What would you say if someone said you should do your job for free? I love my job but I’d tell people to fuck off if they suggested I get paid less because I enjoy it. No breeder is getting rich. They should charge what people are willing to pay.

That’s also how standard retail works. Any retailer has a price floor that they can not go below for every product, or else every retailer would continually try to undercut each other and the product value would plummet.

 

[NoWaistedSpace]

Ppl are forgetting the whole reason we grow! Bc we love it! It's not about the money and if it is you prolly don't have very good bud! You have to love it and have a passion for it! Weed is prolly the most known thing in the world that everyone SHARES!!! I mean puff puff pass right! Now that it's all about money ppl have forgetten how to share! It just breaks my heart I wish I would have been around 20 30 years ago before it was all about money and business!

You could get a 1/4 lb of columbian red bud for 90 bucks and fresh green at 80/oz back then.

 

[GreenHighlander]

Ppl are forgetting the whole reason we grow! Bc we love it! It's not about the money and if it is you prolly don't have very good bud! You have to love it and have a passion for it! Weed is prolly the most known thing in the world that everyone SHARES!!! I mean puff puff pass right! Now that it's all about money ppl have forgetten how to share! It just breaks my heart I wish I would have been around 20 30 years ago before it was all about money and business!

Who the hell loves growing untested herm prone chucks? I am sure some weirdos might. But I and many others do not.
You are right though some are involved with Cannabis because they love it. Just like some are involved because they love the idea of the money it can bring via the right amount of hype and online presence.
I said it before and I will say it again. I would rather pay out my ass for stable proven genetics that someone has put the time and effort into, then get a deal on this shit.
Cheers

 

[NoWaistedSpace]

You could be right, but I still think there's a huge price drop coming.
Remember when LED replacements for incandescent bulbs hit the market? They were like $20 each -- and it still saved money to buy them.
Now they're less than $5.

You are gonna get left in our wakes if you don't get to buying.
I can build a light for what you all spend in bulbs for 10 years. lol

 

[Bakersfield]

Were you running coco in those shallow tubs you were growing in?

Yes, Coco, some perlite and synthetic nutrients.

 

[Greenthumbs256]

Do you enjoy your job? What would you say if someone said you should do your job for free? I love my job but I’d tell people to fuck off if they suggested I get paid less because I enjoy it. No breeder is getting rich. They should charge what people are willing to pay.

That’s also how standard retail works. Any retailer has a price floor that they can not go below for every product, or else every retailer would continually try to undercut each other and the product value would plummet.

I don't work I just grow! But I get what your saying he's under cutting the market and driving down the price but in my opinion it's seeds they are way over priced to begin with!!! It's not like they a hard to get or make!

 

[klx]

Re: other breeders

Gu does not have a great rep within the seed breeding community. He started breeding with a Polar Bear OG male and a Monster Cookies male while they were still in testing. The way he’s pimped out Stardawg has pissed off anyone close to Top Dawg.

Probably the bigger problem are his constant sales and reverse auctions. If people can get a breeder’s packs at GPS for a fraction of the price as at another site, it’s going to deflate the value of their entire catalog. It’s also going to piss any other seedbanks they use because they’re still trying to sell stuff at the regular price. I’d honestly be surprised if any established breeders chose to sell through GPS. Maybe some newcomers just trying to get their stuff out there.

I get what you are saying but you are basically suggesting seed sellers act like a cartel and fix prices as opposed to a free market where the market decides the floor.

I can see arguments for both sides but I always thought you Americans were all about the free market.

 

[Lurpin]

Who the hell loves growing untested herm prone chucks? I am sure some weirdos might. But I and many others do not.
You are right though some are involved with Cannabis because they love it. Just like some are involved because they love the idea of the money it can bring via the right amount of hype and online presence.
I said it before and I will say it again. I would rather pay out my ass for stable proven genetics that someone has put the time and effort into, then get a deal on this shit.
Cheers

Like the hype genetics that everyone paid out their ass for from jigga415 and the cookie team?

The seeds that didn't pop but cost out your ass $500?

 

[Greenthumbs256]

I get what you are saying but you are basically suggesting seed sellers act like a cartel and fix prices as opposed to a free market where the market decides the floor.

I can see arguments for both sides but I always thought you Americans were all about the free market.

US Americans are all about bacon pussy guns and bud! Oh and my beer!

Edit: if we can smoke it eat it or shoot it! It's important in 'merica

 

[Amos Otis]

I wish I would have been around 20 30 years ago before it was all about money and business!

As long as there's been money, and as long as there is money, it'll always be about the money, amigo. Except for people that have plenty of.....what's the word.....money.
Dig this ! "she could be covered with a rash...long as she's got some cash! "

I always thought you Americans were all about the free market.

Ahhh....nostalgia !