My leaves are talking but i can’t hear. Help plz.

[CK?1]

Yo CK,

Look its subjective.
Personally i'd leave it a good while longer. 3 weeks sounds about right to me. There are still a lot of clear trichomes in your closeups. Barely any milky or amber ones.
You want a good tasting smoke. Not a harsh or green tasting one. Wait a good couple weeks. Promise you.
It's the hardest part about growing right now. It's a real test of patience, because of how pretty and good the flowers smell. We just want to chop and get it over with. But you'll regret it if you harvest in a week or two.
Right about now is when flavour, aroma, and potency intensifies, and becomes more complex. Phenotypes really express themselves, and show character etc.
Don't rush this process.

Tbh your pics the other day, looks like they've had more than enough nutrient.
But personally i never go to just straight tap water this early. Especially using coco coir. It'll likely do more harm than good.
I'd be tapering my ppms down.
Maybe aim to have your waste reading 400ppm by mid next week? Then 200ppm by the week after? Then come harvest week, instead of nutrient your only feeding water. I don't recommend you "flush", only taper.
I make sure a few days before i harvest my waste is reading the same ppms as my water. Then i let the plant starve itself of water for a few days before i chop. I believe it helps with smell, and a slight increase in resin.

Your plants right now have done their jobs. They've vegged themselves into a large enough plant to support a full bloom. Let them use the rest of their "bodies" to finish. They're ripening right now.
The plants are past using nutrient to grow bigger (vegetate), or pack on flower size. They're naturally metabolizing themselves right now.
Your plants have old age. They have lived they're lives as nature intended. If it were wild your flowers would be full of seed.
The plants job is done. It's an annual plant, and is on its deathbed. Let them die.
The buds right now are sinks. Every bit of green on your plant is feeding your buds.

Taper the nutrient back. 200ppms by harvest week. Wait until they look 95% ready. Then straight water for 3 to 5 days. Dry the pots right out. Harvest, hang, cure, done. Smoke up.

That's how i'd personally do it.
Just go by how you feel though...I find cannabis ripeness, and harvest time is more about the connection between the plants and ourselves.
Go with your instinct, and what the plants are telling you.
Only take on board what others like myself tell you. Every grower has their own way, i guarantee you.

Bare in mind though, breeders guides to finishing times are usually quite exaggerated. 7 weeks is an extremely fast strain.
I'd personally add 2 weeks to this. Probably 3.
I bet the breeder specifies 7-9 weeks? Well id be aiming for 9. 10th week being harvest week.

Good luck with harvest CK.
The wait is almost over.

Peace, and happy smoking.

Thanks Tim.

So just to be clear I was feeding 20ml Bloom and 6ml micro. You saying on Monday I should have fed 10ml and 3ml. And next week 5ml bloom and 1.5ml Microflora before clean water. If I don’t get a ppm of 200 with those ml which one do I take less of to get those ppm then. Please explain the concept of ppm reading vs how to dose my water.

 

[Tim1987]

Thanks Tim.

So just to be clear I was feed 20ml Blom and 6 ml micro. When you half each time over the next two weeks before plain water, I did just that and you say I should continue. I’d rather wait longer!

For eg. I feed 10ml bloom and 3ml floor.
Last week befor Clem water would be 5ml bloom and 1,5ml micro per gallon. Or should I just stick with 3ml micro and 6 ml bloom’ I’ll check again but that dosage would bring my ppm down to about 420 or could you explain the concept of using ppm reading instead of measuring the feed. How do I know which of the feeds to give the most of? Might be silly tonsk but I just don’t know what you mean by lowering ppm. I understood but don’t know what and how. I would just half those ml.?

Yeah.
What i'd be doing, is whatever nutrient ratio, and additives you've been using. Use exactly the same nutrient ratio. Only water it down.

So theoretically if 20ml of your nutes were being added to 2 gallons of water, and gave you 800ppms. Then i'd be adding another 2 gallons of water. Or halving the nutrient. Either one does the same.
You just want to dilute what you've been giving regularly.

Don't change anything on the plants right now. Just keep it all the same. But start introducing more water.

 

[CK?1]

Yeah.
What i'd be doing, is whatever nutrient ratio, and additives you've been using. Use exactly the same nutrient ratio. Only water it down.

So theoretically if 20ml of your nutes were being added to 2 gallons of water, and gave you 800ppms. Then i'd be adding another 2 gallons of water. Or halving the nutrient. Either one does the same.
You just want to dilute what you've been giving regularly.

Don't change anything on the plants right now. Just keep it all the same. But start introducing more water.

Does that mean I should use the same method during my grow through flowering and veg. I guess so, right concidering our previous conversations.
Cheers mate. Auctioned your advise.

 

[CK?1]

Does that mean I should use the same method during my grow through flowering and veg. I guess so, right concidering our previous conversations.
Cheers mate. Auctioned your advise.

Sorry so I have a plant first week flowering now, My feed read 750ppms and I water down until 380ppms is that ok or am I wasting the feed?

 

[Tim1987]

Does that mean I should use the same method during my grow through flowering and veg. I guess so, right concidering our previous conversations.
Cheers mate. Auctioned your advise.

Sorry so I have a plant first week flowering now, My feed read 750ppms and I water down until 380ppms is that ok or am I wasting the feed?

I only meant for your finishing plants.

But 750ppm first week of bloom, in coir seems a little excessive to me.
1.0 ec seems to be about right for myself. Which I think would be around 500ppm.

750 would be a total maximum for myself.
This would be around peak bloom too.

Your gonna get a lot of different opinions on nutrients.
Some people like to pump their media full of nutrients. Some don't.
I'm one of the people that don't. I always think it's better for a plant to have to seek nutrients (they grow more roots).
Always hungry, but never starving.

If our plants are already a healthy green, why add more nutrients?
Hungry plants fix themselves immediately in hydro. Things happen extremely quickly.
But on the other hand, deficiency due to lockout and overfeeding, is a big waste of time, money, effort, and plant energy (they don't grow nearly as fast).

A nice light, healthy green is what you're after.
This is the general rule anyway.


Keep them green. Keep them keen.

 

[CK?1]

I only meant for your finishing plants.

But 750ppm first week of bloom, in coir seems a little excessive to me.
1.0 ec seems to be about right for myself. Which I think would be around 500ppm.

750 would be a total maximum for myself.
This would be around peak bloom too.

Your gonna get a lot of different opinions on nutrients.
Some people like to pump their media full of nutrients. Some don't.
I'm one of the people that don't. I always think it's better for a plant to have to seek nutrients (they grow more roots).
Always hungry, but never starving.

If our plants are already a healthy green, why add more nutrients?
Hungry plants fix themselves immediately in hydro. Things happen extremely quickly.
But on the other hand, deficiency due to lockout and overfeeding, is a big waste of time, money, effort, and plant energy (they don't grow nearly as fast).

A nice light, healthy green is what you're after.
This is the general rule anyway.


Keep them green. Keep them keen.

And I am coming in at of 700 per gallon and my clean water is at 23. How do I bring those Pom’s down now in first week of flowering. The less nutrients in your media sounds right and natural to me. And it makes sense, what you said about the plants looking for their food.

 

[Tim1987]

And I am coming in at of 700 per gallon and my clean water is at 23. How do I bring those Pom’s down now in first week of flowering. The less nutrients in your media sounds right and natural to me. And it makes sense, what you said about the plants looking for their food.

I'd just keep the nutrients the same. Just dilute the mix down a little with water. Don't at all worry about your water reading 20ppms. It may as well be zero.
Same nutrient schedule. More water. Less nutrient.