PSP Kills Man In Berks Co., PA with Bulldozer

Excessive force/Vehicular Homicide or Nah?

  • Nah, he straight, dawg.

    Votes: 1 11.1%
  • Way excessive.

    Votes: 2 22.2%
  • This is why society’s relationship with police is hostile.

    Votes: 5 55.6%
  • Make them drink bees!

    Votes: 3 33.3%

  • Total voters
    9

Olive Drab Green

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I just wanted to get the consensus on RIU. A middle aged man was run over when the Pennsylvania State Police manned a bulldozer they were never trained on or authorized to use to plow through a thicket (ensuring collateral damage and, subsequently, this fatality and potentially others, to include wildlife) over 10 plants in the woods. In a state in which every major metropolitan area therein has decriminalized adopted medicinal use, soon to include recreational use. Any thoughts?

This next one goes out to you, PSP!

“When I awoke, the Dire Wolf, six hundred pounds of sin,
Was grinning at my window, all I said was "Come on in".

Don't murder me, I beg of you, don't murder me. Please, don't murder me.


 

captainmorgan

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Their narrative of a dirty drug addicted hippy smoking a useless evil plant can't be pushed anymore. But I see the attack on cannabis people getting much worse in the future, it's about protecting profits now and the tax money it generates will be used for enforcement.
 

ttystikk

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Their narrative of a dirty drug addicted hippy smoking a useless evil plant can't be pushed anymore. But I see the attack on cannabis people getting much worse in the future, it's about protecting profits now and the tax money it generates will be used for enforcement.
Legal for US, not for YOU.

The dehumanization of our citizens marches on.
 

Olive Drab Green

Well-Known Member
“BERNVILLE, Pa. - State police went grossly overboard in their pursuit of a marijuana suspect whose body was found under a bulldozer that authorities used to search for him in thick brush, a pot advocacy group said Thursday.

Officials with the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws blasted state police for calling in a helicopter and commandeering a Pennsylvania Game Commission bulldozer as they tracked Gregory Longenecker, 51, who'd fled law enforcement on state game lands about 10 miles from his hometown of Reading.

Police said they found 10 marijuana plants at the scene.

"We simply cannot understand how a man is dead over an investigation involving 10 cannabis plants," said Patrick Nightingale, executive director of NORML's Pittsburgh chapter and a former Allegheny County prosecutor. "The whole investigation was ridiculous. I've seen law enforcement take down major heroin traffickers that haven't engaged in this level of aggression."

A state police internal investigation is underway. The unidentified trooper who rode the bulldozer has been placed on administrative duty pending the outcome, said a state police spokesman, Cpl. Adam Reed, who declined further comment.

The chase developed Monday morning after a game commission worker who had been clearing brush spotted a parked car he thought looked suspicious and called local police, who, in turn, contacted state police.

One suspect was arrested by the Bernville police chief, but Longenecker eluded capture.

A state police helicopter spotted him in the underbrush, and the game commission worker, with a trooper aboard, used the bulldozer to blaze a trail in pursuit. The chopper lost sight of him, and the trooper told the worker to stop the machine, according to a state police account. That's when they spotted his body.

"That is so thick up there, there is no way that you could see someone lying in there," Trooper David Beohm, a state police spokesman, told reporters shortly after the chase.

Autopsy results were pending. It remained unclear Thursday whether Longenecker was killed by the bulldozer or died shortly beforehand of some other cause.

The marijuana advocacy group questioned the need to pursue Longenecker in the first place, given the relatively small quantity of marijuana involved and the fact that authorities had the other man under arrest. NORML said it was outrageous for state police to use a bulldozer in an area where Longenecker had fled.

"What was so hard about asking the guy you had in custody what his buddy's name is? What was so hard about running the plates of the vehicle that drew their attention to the area? What was so hard about ripping up the (marijuana) plants?" said Nightingale, a defense lawyer.

The second suspect, David B. Light, 55, of Sinking Spring, was charged with drug offenses. Light's attorney, who has also previously represented Longenecker, did not immediately return a phone message. It wasn't clear whether Longenecker's family has hired a lawyer.”
 

londonfog

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Did they know he was hiding in the bushes. Did he not hear the multi ton machine advancing to him ?
Not taking side but something missing here
 

Olive Drab Green

Well-Known Member
Did they know he was hiding in the bushes. Did he not hear the multi ton machine advancing to him ?
Not taking side but something missing here
See what I said above. Personally, as a former soldier, dealing with local national of my own country—not one I’m invading, and even then, given normal circumstances, following RoE and EoF—I would have understood that whole idea to be tactically and technically unsound.
 

Olive Drab Green

Well-Known Member
In any case, they claim they didn’t know until they dismounted, but if that were true, why did they dismount directly in the vicinity of his corpse?
 

londonfog

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See what I said above. Personally, as a former soldier, dealing with local national of my own country—not one I’m invading, and even then, given normal circumstances, following RoE and EoF—I would have understood that whole idea to be tactically and technically unsound.
but why would you still hide when you hear/see a bulldozer heading your way.
Run Forrest Run
 

Olive Drab Green

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If I have to follow RoE and EoF and be mindful of collateral damage while dealing with citizens of a country I’m invading/infiltrating, the people of my country, whose freedoms I’m supposedly securing, should be afforded that same “courtesy,” particularly from a peace officer.
 
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Olive Drab Green

Well-Known Member
but why would you still hide when you hear/see a bulldozer heading your way.
Run Forrest Run
That is pretty silly, I agree. Maybe he froze up? Hell if I know. Still, shouldn’t have commandeered a bulldozer you aren’t trained to operate.
 
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