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sgt_zong

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@charface just took this image a few minutes ago, im in process of figuring out if I can get two levels in the cab for scrogging hence the old burple vipar led with a couple a cree 3070's strapped on. Been running them all day with doors closed max temp was 27c at both canopy levels and the bedroom is 32c+, middle of a heat wave here in the Ireland. Rare thing lol..
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The Time The effort oh my god! Salute to you Mr! That is phenomenal look at the root it is so big and earthy lookin.
 

growingforfun

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So I've been wrapping my plant for a week an a half or so into the scrog, and it's working fantastic this way, probably better than my old style of vine clips. The only problem is snapping the tops while wrapping them... I've probably busted 4 or 5 nice shots. No big deal in the total but it still hurts my soul.

Anyways thanks for the pointer and I do really like this change overall.
 

growingforfun

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@growingforfun
Put some Silica in your feeds, Branches etc will get a lot stronger within 14 days. In the meantime work a bend into the stems/branches just as you would if supercropping, they will bend easier and come back stronger.
With silica in the past I would notice them get stronger and want to bend less, and snap easier. Am I miss remembering?
That's the problem here, going into week 2 flower the branches dont have the same flex they had in veg.

I'm debated exactly that suggestion of basically super cropping the rest of em. There's 240 squares in my screen if I remember right, I know I'll never have the time to wrap branches around every wire, I get burnt out after around 20 or 30 min as it is. Mainly trying for the center on the screen and letting the edges grow up around the outside of the light. I may end up with a bud or two over hood level even.
 

Lucky Luke

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With silica in the past I would notice them get stronger and want to bend less, and snap easier. Am I miss remembering?
That's the problem here, going into week 2 flower the branches dont have the same flex they had in veg.

I'm debated exactly that suggestion of basically super cropping the rest of em. There's 240 squares in my screen if I remember right, I know I'll never have the time to wrap branches around every wire, I get burnt out after around 20 or 30 min as it is. Mainly trying for the center on the screen and letting the edges grow up around the outside of the light. I may end up with a bud or two over hood level even.
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Yes silica can make the branches more woody, at least in my experience.

I had the exact same problem but my plants were pretty mature at that stage with around 3 months of veg. I didn't wrap I just tucked under and I had branches breaking,
 

ANC

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So I've been wrapping my plant for a week an a half or so into the scrog, and it's working fantastic this way, probably better than my old style of vine clips. The only problem is snapping the tops while wrapping them... I've probably busted 4 or 5 nice shots. No big deal in the total but it still hurts my soul.

Anyways thanks for the pointer and I do really like this change overall.
Always wait till it is time to water again before doing high stress training, that way the branches are more flexible...
 

growingforfun

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Always wait till it is time to water again before doing high stress training, that way the branches are more flexible...
Alright I'll try that.

Only trouble is the growth between waterings lol! Right around a inch per day over the whole 4.5x4.5 light is at the top of the tent an not even 16 inches over the screen. Imma have a light bleached grow I can already tell.

But really thanks for the advise an new pointers you guys, definitely looking on track to large improvements over my last run. The wrapping style scrog is better than my old vine clips.
 

ANC

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IMG_20180712_163659s.jpg IMG_20180712_163714s.jpg IMG_20180712_163735s.jpg OK then, today I will be testing defoliation on a piece of the table for side by side comparison.
I went at it pretty hard.

Check the heavy U bend at the bottom..... I don't play around when I train them.
 

growingforfun

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@ANC I like that your doing this side by side. Sometimes i wish i could give it a shot, but it seems like so much work an i cant reach across my screen anyways as it's currently set up. My screen is 4.5x5 ft, in a tent. For the winter I was hoping to do the whole room but I think I'm actually going to just do 2 tents on a flip box so I can crop every month an have less to trim at a time
 
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ANC

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Decided to do the rest of that quarter as there are so many buds hidden in the thicket...
There were like 6 tops visible before I stripped the leaves off, now there are more than I care to count.

Feeling tempted to do half of the table, to be honest.
 

benben131

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Hey guys, im quite new to rollitup, and i'd like to ask you about something. So this will be my 2nd grow with 4 plants, im planning to SCRoG them, but i also read a bit about cloning, and SoG lately, and im wondering if i could cut off some lower branches from the plants,(whats under the net wont get much light anyways) clone them, root them, and then place them is the same room as the 4 plants. I read that indica/afghani clones do well with no vegetative time, or just 1-2 weeks. So would it be possible to fill the blanks in the net with theese clones? I dont want to build another room right now.
Thanks! Peace
 

growingforfun

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Hey guys, im quite new to rollitup, and i'd like to ask you about something. So this will be my 2nd grow with 4 plants, im planning to SCRoG them, but i also read a bit about cloning, and SoG lately, and im wondering if i could cut off some lower branches from the plants,(whats under the net wont get much light anyways) clone them, root them, and then place them is the same room as the 4 plants. I read that indica/afghani clones do well with no vegetative time, or just 1-2 weeks. So would it be possible to fill the blanks in the net with theese clones? I dont want to build another room right now.
Thanks! Peace
You can do everything except put those clones in the same flower area. It will take 2 weeks to root, and that 2 weeks would fill the screens gaps anyways.
 

growingforfun

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Thank you for your reply, i would build a bigger net in the first place, so they have their own space. I just wanna start cloning and i dont wanna have a mother all the time. I think i will give it a shot, at least i get experience out of it.
Peace!
When I scrog I prefer 1 plant per screen, I've done diff strains in the same screen or multiple plants in the same screen but you'll be amazed how quickly and easily it fills up. If you start flower with it half to 3/4 full then by week 3 flower it should be packed.
This round I'm doing a single plant in a 30 ish gallon pot an a 5x5 ft screen an loving it. My opinion is that with less plants it's easier to get higher quality and take care of even in the same space. It's very easy to take clones even in week 5 flower but I try to be done taking cuts by week 2 flower. A small veg area is pretty easy to maintain even if it's just the closet in the other room, a few led lightbulbs will keep em alive an happy while they are small. I'll top them aggressively and not transplant them from solo cups tri keep then under control while I wait for space in my flower area. Then I'll generally veg in my flower spot for a a couple weeks and get them used to the big light before flip.

Lots of ways to "skin a cat" but that's generally how I do it now
 

benben131

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When I scrog I prefer 1 plant per screen, I've done diff strains in the same screen or multiple plants in the same screen but you'll be amazed how quickly and easily it fills up. If you start flower with it half to 3/4 full then by week 3 flower it should be packed.
This round I'm doing a single plant in a 30 ish gallon pot an a 5x5 ft screen an loving it. My opinion is that with less plants it's easier to get higher quality and take care of even in the same space. It's very easy to take clones even in week 5 flower but I try to be done taking cuts by week 2 flower. A small veg area is pretty easy to maintain even if it's just the closet in the other room, a few led lightbulbs will keep em alive an happy while they are small. I'll top them aggressively and not transplant them from solo cups tri keep then under control while I wait for space in my flower area. Then I'll generally veg in my flower spot for a a couple weeks and get them used to the big light before flip.

Lots of ways to "skin a cat" but that's generally how I do it now
Thanks man that was a useful info for me :) i thought i need to fill the net first, then put her into flower. Anyways i think i will try the method (same room clones and scrog) as there is no loss if it gets out of control, i can simply trash them. It will be like a learn to clone process, and theres the chance i get some good herb out of it. Oh and a question: do you guys think is it good to use aloe vera as rooting gel, or should i go to the grow store and get hormone powder or gel or whatever?
Thanks, peace :)
 
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