Help, yellowing leaves and sad plants

[FoliarFeeder16]

So about two weeks ago I transplanted my plants into 1 gallon containers, and to me it seemed as they hated it. Ph’ed The water with Botanicare grow and Watered them. Soon after they seemed as if they had been overwatered. Were droopy. I’ve overwatered in the past before (different grow) and I thought they’d bounce back after a day or if they were shocked on the transplant they would bounce back also. But no, things kept worsening. Decided to check runoff water in the next watering and it came back at 5.75. I flushed it with ph’d RO water until the runoff was at 6.3 then i watered it with Botanicare Grow and CalMag ph’ed At 6.5 and the runoff came back at 6.3. I decided to also do a foliar feed to correct some yellowing that was happening. (I though due to acidic ph before the flush it got nute lockout) today, it seems as nothing is working. the strain is chocolope. And I’m in dire need of some knowledge!

 

[hotrodharley]

First stop feeding. Just wait a few days and keep air moving around it

 

[Beachwalker]

Agree^ ..stop doing everything for a minute before the poor thing dies..!

What is your medium

 

[JohnDee]

Hi FF,
I agree with Harley and Beachwalker. And especially quit dickin' with the ph. I'm not saying ph isn't your problem but I don't think what you're doing is helping.

There is clearly a Mg deficiency at play...but that may well be from lockout from wonky ph.

So ya...need more info.
JD

 

[FoliarFeeder16]

So keep watering regular ph’ed Water with no nutes for how Long should I do that?

 

[JohnDee]

FF We can't make any suggestions about watering without knowing the media and the nutrients. Soil, peat and coco all get treated differently,
JD

 

[FoliarFeeder16]

I use Fox farm ocean forest soil. And water with reverse osmosis water. I add the recommended dosage from general organics of CaMg+ and also use the recommended dosage of 18 ml of Botanicare Grow nutes. Ph my water to 6.2 and water the plant

 

[JohnDee]

OK thanks FF,
On your top picture...do you see how the space between the leaf veins is fading. Like I mentioned earlier...that's Mg deficiency.

So since FFOF is pretty strong, I'd say it's ok to forgo feedings till this gets sorted out. Testing your runoff like you've been doing will give you clues to what's going on in the rootzone. So since you already flushed...just give calmag and water for awhile...maybe a week. Get a good wet/dry cycle going. You're phing to 6.3? That should be ok...or a little higher even.
JD

 

[Beachwalker]

I use Fox farm ocean forest soil. And water with reverse osmosis water. I add the recommended dosage from general organics of CaMg+ and also use the recommended dosage of 18 ml of Botanicare Grow nutes. Ph my water to 6.2 and water the plant

I find 6.5 gives me best results in Fox Farm ocean Forest
-good luck!

 

[FoliarFeeder16]

OK thanks FF,
On your top picture...do you see how the space between the leaf veins is fading. Like I mentioned earlier...that's Mg deficiency.

So since FFOF is pretty strong, I'd say it's ok to forgo feedings till this gets sorted out. Testing your runoff like you've been doing will give you clues to what's going on in the rootzone. So since you already flushed...just give calmag and water for awhile...maybe a week. Get a good wet/dry cycle going. You're phing to 6.3? That should be ok...or a little higher even.
JD

Thanks a lot. I will go ahead and do RO with only calmag. Does the yellowing go away and the green come back? Also, the plants should perk back up once healthy again right?

One more question. This picture is of another plant I have growing outside. Strawberry cough. I have that one in a 5 gallon bucket with a 1800w LED. Also fox farm. Same nutrients and calmag. Temperature most than not stays from 75-80degrees farenheit. Two days ago, I noticed the tips yellowing. What can cause that? If it’s receiving nutes and calmag and the runoff Ph on that one always comes back around 6.3-6.5.

 

[FoliarFeeder16]

Here are a few more pics

 

[JohnDee]

FF,
It's certainly not a pervasive problem. I think it's just a tiny bit of nutrient burn from having plant in rich soil AND adding nutrients,

So back off nutrients. Lots of guys will go a month or longer in FFOF before adding extra nutrients.
JD

 

[polishpollack]

You've added a lot of fert to the soil that already comes with fert in it. Please read the labels of stuff like this so you know what's inside. You have yellowing tips with what looks like leaves that might be too dark green in areas other than just the tips. Classic sign of over ferting a plant. Leave out the extra stuff, transplant into a 5 gallon container or bigger with nothing but FFOF soil. water when it goes dry. Let it dry out quite a bit before you water again.

 

[ANC]

It is a common mistake in gardening for people to water plants after transplanting...
Make sure the soil you plant into is premoistened, but not turned into mud... just the kind of moisture levels the plants would normally grow in.
This will encourage the roots to dig hard and fast.

 

[JohnDee]

FF,
Repotting seems extreme but sometimes it's the only way to correct things. This is my thought on that.

See how the indoors plant recovers, give the H2O plus CalMag watering. It should green up and start growing. If not...repot.

I think you can do fine with the Strawberry cough by just water (no nutrients) and up ph to 6.5
JD

 

[polishpollack]

Repotting is never extreme.

 

[Indacouch]

No need to adjust your PH in FFOF soil, it buffers itself. Also I recently switched to RO 707 soil because of FFOF being shit in my area the last few years. I guess they opened a second plant and depending on location you receive from it. Anyways, I'd stop trying to do so much like mentioned above. Just keep the environment comfortable for her and let that soil dry out.

 

[JohnDee]

Repotting is never extreme.

Up-potting is a normal routine in growing. But repotting when you're in your final pot size...that disrupts roots, takes gallons more soil and is a little extreme IMO if all he really needs to do is back off nutrients (I'm talking the outdoor strawberry cough right now)
JD

 

[polishpollack]

I'm assuming the grower is still using 1 gallon pots. Too small. The point to repotting with FFOF into a considerably bigger pot is to ensure there's enough nutrients for the duration. Then you just water and leave it alone. It takes much more soil, true, but it also provides piece of mind as you don't mess with it anymore. This is why Foxfarm makes that soil the way they do. You're suppose to up-pot.

 

[JohnDee]

I'm assuming the grower is still using 1 gallon pots. Too small. The point to repotting with FFOF into a considerably bigger pot is to ensure there's enough nutrients for the duration. Then you just water and leave it alone. It takes much more soil, true, but it also provides piece of mind as you don't mess with it anymore. This is why Foxfarm makes that soil the way they do. You're suppose to up-pot.

PolishPollack indeed makes his point...the inside plants should be up-potted. I apologize for missing that. Distracted by all the ph foldy roll. But once you up-pot...please don't feed it to death.

The outdoor SC will be fine...just feed less.
JD