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Lucky Luke

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Israel never used sarin gas or chlorine gas on Palestinians.

I'm not defending what the state of Israel is doing but when did you come up with that?
So its the type of gas?? lol,, Israel gassing the Palestine's to make them sterile is OK? Sorry mate but no point having a debate with someone who obviously supports what Israel is doing..hence the point of the article...

US is just as bad. http://allthatsinteresting.com/agent-orange-victims
o wait..that was not sarin or chlorine either so that must of been OK....SMH
 
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ttystikk

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When Israel can gas Palistians and America doesn't say anything but when Syria gases its own people it sends in missiles it says something about a country. But was that because America was one of the countries that gave away Palestinians land and supports the slow invasion?..
I believe you've got a lot of your details mixed up but I think I get the basic idea. In the eyes of the United States government, Israel can do no wrong and Assad can do no right.

It might help to get some idea of the underlying agenda.
 

Lucky Luke

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I believe you've got a lot of your details mixed up but I think I get the basic idea. In the eyes of the United States government, Israel can do no wrong and Assad can do no right.

It might help to get some idea of the underlying agenda.
Just the good old Free countries doing what they do trying to control agendas.
 

Fogdog

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So its the type of gas?? lol,, Israel gassing the Palestine's to make them sterile is OK? Sorry mate but no point having a debate with someone who obviously supports what Israel is doing..hence the point of the article...

US is just as bad. http://allthatsinteresting.com/agent-orange-victims
o wait..that was not sarin or chlorine either so that must of been OK....SMH
Link please.

Who is saying Israel is gassing Palestinians to make them sterile.

The US should have been prosecuted for war crimes for using agent orange.

I've poked around the web after reading your post. Yes, Israel is using tear gas and Palestinians rightly claim the gas use is unprovoked and causing them harm. This does not equate to what Assad has done in Israel. Fifteen cases where Assad's air force has dropped either sarin or chlorine gas with hundreds dead or permanently disabled.. Yes, absolutely the difference between those two and tear gas is significant.

I farted in a grocery aisle. It was pretty bad. Does that make me like Assad?
 

ttystikk

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Link please.

Who is saying Israel is gassing Palestinians to make them sterile.

The US should have been prosecuted for war crimes for using agent orange.

I've poked around the web after reading your post. Yes, Israel is using tear gas and Palestinians rightly claim the gas use is unprovoked and causing them harm. This does not equate to what Assad has done in Israel. Fifteen cases where Assad's air force has dropped either sarin or chlorine gas with hundreds dead or permanently disabled.. Yes, absolutely the difference between those two and tear gas is significant.

I farted in a grocery aisle. It was pretty bad. Does that make me like Assad?
Assad isn't using chemical weapons any more than Iran is still building nukes, in spite of your favorite liars' assertions to the contrary.
 

ttystikk

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/mar/25/israel-white-phosphorus-gaza is Ok to then.,

so Tear gas that is killing people and giving miscarriges and Phosopharus attacks is all OK..cause its not chlorine and Sarin?? Please ...

Stop supporting it.
These are ghastly munitions that have no business being used against unarmed civilians but they aren't chemical weapons, nor do they cause sterility.

I'm as disgusted by the behavior of the Israeli state as anyone but it's important to stick to the facts.

There is no need to embellish their record to show how horrible a habitat series of human rights violations it is.
 

londonfog

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Because reading is too hard?

No.
Well since we are cut and paste about nothing.

Essay on Nothing
By Henry Fielding (1707–1754)

THE GREAT antiquity of Nothing is apparent from its being so visible in the accounts we have of the beginning of every nation. This is very plainly to be discovered in the first pages, and sometimes books, of all general historians; and, indeed, the study of this important subject fills up the whole life of an antiquary, it being always at the bottom of his inquiry, and is commonly at last discovered by him with infinite labour and pains.
As it is extremely hard to define Nothing in positive terms, I shall therefore do it in negative. Nothing, then, is not Something. And here I must object to a third error concerning it, which is, that it is in no place—which is an indirect way of depriving it of its existence; whereas, indeed, it possesses the greatest and noblest place upon this earth, viz., the human brain. But, indeed, this mistake has been sufficiently refuted by many very wise men, who, having spent their whole lives in the contemplation and pursuit of Nothing, have at last gravely concluded that there is Nothing in this world.
Farther, as Nothing is not Something, so everything which is not Something is Nothing; and wherever Something is not, Nothing is—a very large allowance in its favour, as must appear to persons well skilled in human affairs.
For instance, when a bladder is full of wind, it is full of Something; but when that is let out we aptly say that there is Nothing in it. The same may be as justly asserted of a man as of a bladder. However well he may be bedaubed with lace or with title, yet if he have not Something in him we may predicate the same of him as of an empty bladder….
Nothing may be seen, as is plain from the relation of persons who have recovered from high fevers, and perhaps may be suspected from some, at least, of those who have seen apparitions, both on earth and in the clouds. Nay, I have often heard it confessed by men, when asked what they saw at such a place and time, that they saw Nothing….
Nothing may be heard, of which the same proofs may be given as of the foregoing. That Nothing may be tasted and smelt, is not only known to persons of delicate palates and nostrils. How commonly do we hear that such a thing smells or tastes of Nothing! The latter I have heard asserted of a dish composed of five or six savoury ingredients….
Some have felt the motions of the spirit, and others have felt very bitterly the misfortunes of their friends, without endeavouring to relieve them. Now, there seem two plain instances that Nothing is an object of this sense. Nay, I have heard a surgeon declare, while he was cutting off a patient’s leg, that he was sure he felt Nothing. 7
Nothing is as well the object of our passions as our senses. Thus, there are many who love Nothing, some who hate Nothing, and some who fear Nothing, etc. Some have imagined that Knowledge, with the adjective human placed before it, is another word for Nothing. And one of the wisest men in the world declared that he knew Nothing. But, without carrying it so far, this, I believe, may be allowed, that it is at least possible for a man to know Nothing. And whoever hath read over many works of our ingenious moderns, with proper attention and emolument, will, I believe, confess that, if he understands them right, he understands Nothing….
I remember once, at the table of a person of great eminence, and one no less distinguished by superiority of wit than fortune, when a very dark passage was read out of a poet famous for being so sublime that he is often out of the sight of his reader, some persons present declared that they did not understand the meaning. The gentleman himself, casting his eye over the performance, testified a surprise at the dulness of his company, seeing Nothing could, he said, possibly be plainer than the meaning of the passage which they stuck at. This set all of us to puzzling again, but with like success; we frankly owned we could not find it out, and desired he would explain it. “Explain it?” said the gentleman. “Why, he means Nothing.”
In fact, this mistake arises from a too vulgar error among persons unacquainted with the mystery of writing, who imagine it impossible that a man should sit down to write without any meaning at all. Whereas, in reality, nothing is more common; for, not to instance myself, who have confessedly set down to write this essay with Nothing in my head, or, which is much the same thing, to write about Nothing, it may be incontestably proved, ab effectu, that Nothing is commoner among the moderns. The inimitable author of a preface to the “Posthumous Eclogues” of a late ingenious young gentleman says: “There are men who sit down to write what they think, and others to think what they shall write. But, indeed, there is a third and much more numerous sort, who never think either before they sit down or afterward, and who, when they produce on paper what was before in their heads, are sure to produce Nothing.”…
Nothing contains so much dignity as Nothing. Ask an infamous, worthless nobleman (if any such be) in what his dignity consists. It may not, perhaps, be consistent with his dignity to give you an answer; but suppose he should be willing to condescend so far, what could he in effect say? Should he say he had it from his ancestors, I apprehend a lawyer would oblige him to prove that the virtues to which this dignity was annexed descended to him. If he claims it is inherent in the title, might he not be told that a title originally implied dignity, as it implied the presence of those virtues to which dignity is inseparably annexed—but that no implication will fly in the face of downright positive proof to the contrary? In short, to examine no farther, since his endeavour to derive it from any other fountain would be equally impotent, his dignity arises from Nothing, and in reality is Nothing.
A man must have very little discernment who can live long in courts or populous cities without being convinced of the great dignity of Nothing; and though he should, through corruption or necessity, comply with the vulgar worship and adulation, he will know to what it is paid—namely, to Nothing.
The most astonishing instance of this respect so frequently paid to Nothing is when it is paid (if I may so express myself) to something less than Nothing; when the person who receives it is not only void of the quality for which he is respected, but is in reality notoriously guilty of the vices directly opposite to the virtues whose applause he receives. This is, indeed, the highest degree of Nothing, or (if I may be allowed the word) the Nothingest of all Nothing
As Nothing is the end of the world, so it is of everything in the world. Ambition, the greatest, highest, noblest, finest, most heroic and Godlike of all passions, what doth it end in? Nothing. What did Alexander, Cæsar, and all the rest of that heroic band who have plundered and massacred so many millions, obtain by all their care, labour, pain, fatigue, and danger? Could they speak for themselves, must they not own that the end of all their pursuit was Nothing? Nor is this the end of private ambition alone. What is become of that proud mistress of the world—caput triumphati orbis—that Rome of which her own flatterers so liberally prophesied the immortality? In what has all her glory ended? Surely in Nothing
Seeing that such is its dignity and importance, and that it is really the end of all those things which are supported with so much pomp and solemnity and looked on with such respect and esteem, surely it becomes a wise man to regard Nothing with the utmost awe and adoration; to pursue it with all his parts and pains; and to sacrifice to it his ease, his innocence, and his present happiness. To which noble pursuit we have this great incitement, that we may rest assured of never being cheated or deceived in the end proposed. The virtuous, wise, and learned may then be unconcerned at all the changes of ministries and of government; since they may be well satisfied that, while ministers of State are rogues themselves, and have inferior knavish tools to bribe and reward, true virtue, wisdom, learning, wit, and integrity will most certainly bring their possessors—Nothing.
 

Lucky Luke

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Frog dog this is what you are supporting.
These are ghastly munitions that have no business being used against unarmed civilians but they aren't chemical weapons, nor do they cause sterility.

I'm as disgusted by the behavior of the Israeli state as anyone but it's important to stick to the facts.

There is no need to embellish their record to show how horrible a habitat series of human rights violations it is.
Tear gas causes death and miscarriages..I belive Phosphorous causes sterility in males..i may be wrong. Both are chemical weapons.
 
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Fogdog

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Assad isn't using chemical weapons any more than Iran is still building nukes, in spite of your favorite liars' assertions to the contrary.
Assad has had his air force drop chemical weapons 15 times since 2013. His bombing civilians with conventional bombs is a war crime too.
 

Fogdog

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/mar/25/israel-white-phosphorus-gaza is Ok to then.,

so Tear gas that is killing people and giving miscarriges and Phosopharus attacks (which I believe can cause sterility) is all OK..cause its not chlorine and Sarin?? Please ...

Stop supporting it.
Frankly I had heard but never read a credible report until now. So thanks for that.

I do believe that story. So, Israel is doing wrong by dropping white phosphorus on Palestinians. This in no way makes what Assad is doing acceptable. They are both wrong.

What's your point again?
 

Lucky Luke

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Frankly I had heard but never read a credible report until now. So thanks for that.

I do believe that story. So, Israel is doing wrong by dropping white phosphorus on Palestinians. This in no way makes what Assad is doing acceptable. They are both wrong.

What's your point again?
Point is what the article is about...
 

SneekyNinja

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https://ghionjournal.com/macron-economics-free-world-for-a-few-bondage-for-humanity/

Macron Economics: Free World for a Few, Bondage for Humanity

BY JACK PERRY ON APRIL 26, 2018

I saw a headline referring to President Macron of France as being some “leader of the free world”. And we’ve heard people complain that Trump isn’t fit to be the “leader of the free world”. Yeah, well, who cares? Who appoints any of these clowns to be the leaders of the free world, the semi-free world, or the $1.99 world anyway? Themselves? Obviously so. None of them are worthy enough to lead an ant farm. And, truth be told, the free world itself is just the equivalent of an aging miniature golf course parked next to a defunct Sir George’s Smorgasbord. Once a destination of silly games and gluttonous consumption, but it’s heading towards insolvency and the wrecking ball.

Look here, the free world ain’t all it’s cracked up to be. Number One, ain’t nothing free in it! Everything costs money up in this overpriced hellhole that bills itself as “free” but the subscription price isn’t worth the postage. I mean really! The “free” world?! What, are we in the Cold War again? That phrase was already ancient in the 1980s! Right now, it’s so past its “Best By” date we’ll need a jackhammer to scrape it off the shelf in the fridge. The “free world”! Huh. Do tell.

There is no such thing as this “free world”. But what they’re actually trying to say is “The West” without sounding like the Eurocentric and America Uber Alles crap that it actually is. That’s false advertising! This poppycock all started when the West appointed itself the chaperone of the world to prevent the Third World from going out on blind dates with the Soviet Union. That is, after all, why the French lost the Vietnam War in the 1950’s and the United States decided to go ahead and lose it, too, by 1975. They did not want Vietnam to decide for themselves that, hey man, maybe this free world ain’t so damn hot after all. After all, they’d had the French up in there for decades playing colonial overlord and they’d been lied to about self-determination during and after World War Two. That’s why it took a war to eject the French. And why it took the extended play version of the war to eject the United States later.

You’ve got to hand it to countries that successfully kick the West out. They saw the hand writing on the wall and the message it was writing is this: “You will not be free in the free world. Because they themselves are not truly free, either. Just ask the poor among them.” They knew damn well the West could not be trusted because the West had been carving the world up for themselves for the past 300 years and more. It took 500 years to finally eject the Crusaders out of the Middle East once and for all without them coming back for extra helpings of ass kicks.

People say, “Gosh, you sure are hard on the United States and the West.” Of course I am. I’m the court jester. It’s my job. I see in the news President Macron in France wants to build a “New Syria”. As if the French hadn’t already been there right after World War One, having been given Syria like plunder. Did anyone think to ask the Syrians what they thought about that deal? No. The French were given it like a slice of peach pie off a plate. “Gosh, League of Nations, you gave Syria to the French, but what about us?”, the British said. Oh, here, have Palestine and the Trans-Jordan. The West sure is generous giving away countries they don’t actually live in and are a thousand miles or more away from. Then they wonder why they’re not trusted.

I would say it’s high time to tell the free world that the rest of the world is a No Parking Zone. Keep your aircraft carriers out of other peoples coasts, keep your drones in your own airspace, and keep your cruise missiles holstered. Look, I live in Arizona. Everyone here is armed because it’s a law that you can carry a gun open or concealed. If you have a business and you don’t want people carrying guns in there, you have to post a sign saying so. I think we need to do that to the free world. Post signs around the rest of the world: “No Free World Military Or Weapons Allowed”.
Free world means “you are free to join us” or else face the hell and heat of the military-industrial complex. George Orwell warned of this world.
The free world itself is a badly told joke: “Did you hear the one about the American who thought he was free but went to jail for smoking marijuana?” Stop me if you’ve heard this one: “An American military walks into a war the Soviets abandoned that it armed the anti-Soviet guerrillas in. Then decided to fight those guerrillas it armed supposing it would win the war an equal military power had just lost.” That’s a good one. You could start that one as, “A British army, and American army, and a Soviet army walk into Afghanistan…” The Pashtun would say, “yes, yes, we’ve heard that one!”

What an abysmal farce it all is. If Shakespeare were alive today, he’d be chugging triple shot espressos every hour burning the midnight oil to write the plays about the shenanigans of free world. Or maybe not. The entire free world is nothing but the Marx Brothers film “Duck Soup” being acted out in real life by real countries. How can the free world say to the rest of the world, “We are the wise ones who know how to do things!”?! Yeah, like lose the Vietnam War twice in a row. Like turning Iraq into rubble and calling that “free”. To paraphrase Tacitus, “they made a wasteland and they called it free.”

Free world citizens love to imagine they actually are free. So they go out and protest in these places called “free speech zones”. When your free speech time is up, in move the riot police with tear gas, batons, and rubber bullets. Behind them are the buses with chain link over the windows to cart the free off to the reality of what the free world is actually about: jail. Americans, the exemplars of the free world, know that the United States builds new prisons yearly but most states haven’t built a new public school in 40 years. Americans support the new prisons because they’re told working in there is a “good job” and it pays slightly more than Walmart. And prison isn’t free, either. They're finding ways to bill prisoners for stuff in there now. You've got to hand it to the free world. They found a way to charge money to be imprisoned.CLICK TO TWEET

People say, “Well, what are your solutions, then?!” Hey man, I’m not the one touting myself as a “leader of the free world”! I’m not up here telling the other countries labeled as “the Third World” that I am filled with wisdom and, oh, here, have an IMF loan you’ll never be able to pay back. I didn’t launch cruise missiles at Syria based on intel that if it was a check someone wrote, would have bounced twenty feet high. I didn’t go into Iraq, reduce it to rubble, then claim it’s free because a Kentucky Fried Chicken opened up there. I’m not here to sell solutions. I’m selling: Free world, shut up! That’s what I’m selling. Things will settle themselves if the free world would just stay in its own backyard and notice that, hey, its own backyard is a disaster area.

I’ve had enough free world for one lifetime, thank you very much. I can’t afford any more free world. I’m still looking for the receipt to take this one back for a refund. “Excuse me, but this free world has not lived up to the claims you made on the television commercials. No, I don’t want to exchange it for another free world. I want my money back.” That’s all. I want my money back. This free world is a ripoff. Just ask the countries it tried to sell itself to. #MacronEconomics

“All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.” ~ George Orwell
What an unquestionably high quality source you've presented.

Get the fuck off the internet and do something productive with your life, you just go from blog post to blog post thinking you've some unique insight.

You should probably just kill yourself, the delusion has become too extreme.
 

Lucky Luke

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Except that he didn't do it.

You're being willingly fooled by the same people who brought you Iraqi WMD, the Gulf of Tonkin and many, many more.

You're a useful idiot for billionaires, nothing more.
Vietnam should be on that list and Afganastane.
 

ttystikk

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What an unquestionably high quality source you've presented.

Get the fuck off the internet and do something productive with your life, you just go from blog post to blog post thinking you've some unique insight.

You should probably just kill yourself, the delusion has become too extreme.
Yep, telling people to commit suicide sure is persuasive.

Keep spinning, Stinkydigit.
 
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