Unknown seedling problems

Kota2300

Kota2300

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propertyoftheUS said:
How close is your light? If you said it's drawing 300w actual it needs to be about 5 or 6' above them. They don't need all that light at this point. But they look overwatered and pH issues
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Unfortunately the most distance I can get between the light and the plants is 40", the hanging wires for my light are 17" and there's another 3-4" added from a rope height adjuster thingy
 
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Tim1987

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Tim1987 said:
Just let them be.
Should have done the same, instead of transplanting.

If you quit loving them so much, they'll reward you.
They have known exactly how to grow for millions of years. Let them be. Let them grow.
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That lights a problem.
Honestly if it was me. I wouldn't buffer my water. I never do for soil. But I know some do. But if it isn't working.......
Just plain water man. No acidic crap.


Stop mothering / mollycoddling them so much. That's your main problem.
They're a seedling.
What you're doing, is like giving a new born baby steak dinner, coffee, vitamin supplements, beer, vodka and a whole day in the sun without sun screen.
Seriously OP. You're loving them too much. It's the hardest thing for newer growers to realize.
Less is more in the plant world. It's balance they need. Everything needs to be zen.
 
Kota2300

Kota2300

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Tim1987 said:
That lights a problem.
Honestly if it was me. I wouldn't buffer my water. I never do for soil. But I know some do. But if it isn't working.......
Just plain water man. No acidic crap.

Stop mothering / mollycoddling them so much. That's your main problem.
They're a seedling.
What you're doing, is like giving a new born baby steak dinner, coffee, vitamin supplements, beer, vodka and a whole day in the sun without sun screen.
Seriously OP. You're loving them too much. It's the hardest thing for newer growers to realize.
Less is more in the plant world. It's balance they need. Everything needs to be zen.
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I know I know, I'm still trying to learn to be patient and not mess with them as much lol. But what do you mean by "buffer my water"? I haven't heard that term yet, and what would you recommend as far as the lighting situation? I raised it as much as I could which is 40" so I'm hoping that's enough.
 
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Tim1987

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Kota2300 said:
I know I know, I'm still trying to learn to be patient and not mess with them as much lol. But what do you mean by "buffer my water"? I haven't heard that term yet, and what would you recommend as far as the lighting situation? I raised it as much as I could which is 40" so I'm hoping that's enough.
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When you change the ph of your water. Buffering the water is what you're doing. You're using something foreign to alter it's makeup.
I suggest getting a smaller light.
If it's warm enough. Even put them out in the sun for a few days.
Plain water.
Stop loving them to death.:mrgreen:
 
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Tim1987

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propertyoftheUS said:
You're right on but dude had 300w of led 24" above his seedlings
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At a guess.
It's because it's a 300watt light rated at 1000watt equivalents. It's probably a crap one too. To make that claim, would mean the frequency is up the shit.
It's an intense, bright light. With a crap frequency for seedlings.
In my opinion :peace:
 
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Tim1987

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They're sick too. They need a little shade.
Smaller light, window sill, or outside in the shade, in a clone tray.
 
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Tim1987

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Just until they recover. They can't photosynthesize much at the moment. They just need a little light to keep them chugging along. Until they recover.
Keep it nice and sticky too, I reckon. About 60% humidity, 25'C. 18/6 schedule.
 
rob333

rob333

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Kota2300 said:
So this plant is 11 days old and it looks a bit off.. not sure what's wrong since it's my first real grow. I've researched the symptoms and I can't find anything. I have it under a 300W COB LED (23 inches away), and it's in a mix of coco coir and Just Natural Organic potting soil (has extremely low nutrients, .06-.09-.06)
The rest of my seedlings seem to be doing fine, though they're a few days younger. All of them are bagseed, unknown genetics.
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looks like a deform from hard water or ph rh can cause spastic leaves aswell peace
 
rob333

rob333

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Kota2300 said:
It's advertised as 1800W equivalent, 300 true watts and it's a COB led, no blurple. I don't know if growth is stunted or not, each morning when I check I do notice new growth, a little bit of height increase (barely noticeable unless looking at side by side pics) and few leaf tips forming, but not that rapid at all.. other people's plants at 12 days look amazing, have full open 3 blade leaves and all, mine just look pathetic. My other plants are a few days behind (7 days old) and I can't tell if they're growing any faster than the 12 day old one, they do look a bit healthier but I still feel like something's wrong. Here's a few pics (and an updated picture of the plant in question)View attachment 4127193 View attachment 4127194 View attachment 4127196 View attachment 4127197
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to much water whats with the bark ?
 
rob333

rob333

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Kota2300 said:
Update: haven't watered since Thursday or Friday can't remember, but growth is still EXTREMELY slow. I look at other people's plants/journals that are the same age as mine and they're a perfect green, lots of full perfect fan leves, I don't get it. I have an actual grow tent and a digital ph meter coming Tuesday, does anyone have any ideas?? I've done tons of research and all I can find are a million and one different answers, the biggest being overwatering. But like I said, haven't watered in a while and the soils getting down to a proper moisture level.
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(The weird vertical lines in the pic are from my light)
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up the veg nutes mate
 
Kota2300

Kota2300

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rob333 said:
to much water whats with the bark ?
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Wait I just realized. By bark did you mean attitude, or did you mean the literal bark in the soil lmao, if you meant the soil then it says it's "processed pine bark", not really sure why it's in it buttt it is. It's the only soil besides Coco Coir (ik it's not soil but still) that I have, I assumed it would be okay because it's has extremelyy low nutes. I didn't use the Coco because I don't have proper nutrients to use to continuously feed them with.
 
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Tim1987

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Kota2300 said:
Wait I just realized. By bark did you mean attitude, or did you mean the literal bark in the soil lmao, if you meant the soil then it says it's "processed pine bark", not really sure why it's in it buttt it is. It's the only soil besides Coco Coir (ik it's not soil but still) that I have, I assumed it would be okay because it's has extremelyy low nutes. I didn't use the Coco because I don't have proper nutrients to use to continuously feed them with.
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If it's processed pine bark, in the gardening term, then it's fine. It means it's fully composted, and fairly neutral.


It's just fresh mulch, and peat / moss you need to be aware of really. Not many other things really.
 
rob333

rob333

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Kota2300 said:
Wait I just realized. By bark did you mean attitude, or did you mean the literal bark in the soil lmao, if you meant the soil then it says it's "processed pine bark", not really sure why it's in it buttt it is. It's the only soil besides Coco Coir (ik it's not soil but still) that I have, I assumed it would be okay because it's has extremelyy low nutes. I didn't use the Coco because I don't have proper nutrients to use to continuously feed them with.
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you just answered your question bud processed pine bark helps raise plant acidity peace
 
rob333

rob333

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Kota2300 said:
There was no bark, and I feel like many people here would disagree with giving it nutes at all at this stage.
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many people here have no idea how to grow if that was the case my 3 weeks old seedlings in coco that are on 1 ml per ltr on 2 times a day feed would be stone cold dead
 
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