I agree.
Except here lemons are about a dollar each. Sometimes two or three.
Believe it or not it's cheaper where I am to buy citric acid, than it is to buy lemons.
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Except here lemons are about a dollar each. Sometimes two or three.
Believe it or not it's cheaper where I am to buy citric acid, than it is to buy lemons.
Oh, I don't buy lemons, just the little bottles of lemon juice for adding to tea or for adding flavour to food. Basically it is 99.9% lemon juice, so there's your citric acid, with a little preservative, costs me around €1.50 per litre here, gets used for everything from adding to tea to flavouring food to descaling.
If you like.
Or if you want a purer, more concentrated form, without a use by date.. You can use citric acid. It's the same acid that's in citrus anyway.
As I say, I always have the stuff in the house anyway so why buy something else that does the same thing.
Beachwalker
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My water is usually 8.9..! 
(At 108 ppm) ..take me about half a lemon tree to drop that sucker down to 6.5 LOL! 
(At 108 ppm) ..take me about half a lemon tree to drop that sucker down to 6.5 LOL! Mine sits at around 7.5 and 240, I usually bring it down to 6.8 or so and my plants are happy. And if they're happy, I'm happy.My water is usually 8.9..!
Kota2300
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I had just added soil to cover the stem and watered just before the pics
Even so, that still looks like they're far too wet and I aint the only one who thinks that
Just let them be.
Should have done the same, instead of transplanting.
If you quit loving them so much, they'll reward you.
They have known exactly how to grow for millions of years. Let them be. Let them grow.
Kota2300
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Update: haven't watered since Thursday or Friday can't remember, but growth is still EXTREMELY slow. I look at other people's plants/journals that are the same age as mine and they're a perfect green, lots of full perfect fan leves, I don't get it. I have an actual grow tent and a digital ph meter coming Tuesday, does anyone have any ideas?? I've done tons of research and all I can find are a million and one different answers, the biggest being overwatering. But like I said, haven't watered in a while and the soils getting down to a proper moisture level.
(The weird vertical lines in the pic are from my light)
Kota2300
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Tuesdayyy lol. You're certain that's what it is? And once I correct I can expect to see better/rapid growth?PH, PH, PH, PH.
It's a must
Edit: one more question that I'm having a hard time finding the answer to, is the pH of water runoff the same thing as the soil pH? Or would I need to purchase yet another thing to check the pH of the soil?
Your runoff isn't an accurate measurement for soil. You can get $10 test kits, and stakes at a hardware.
Yes I do think it's your ph. Yes I do think they'll improve.
They're young though, and stunted. So it'll take a couple weeks, for them to hit their stride.
Keep the light at a fair distance. Until they start to come round.
No nutrients either.
They could afford a drink too.
Good luck dude.
Happy grow.
Kota2300
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Can't thank you enough for all your help! Everyone else too! I'll keep everyone updated as time goes on
Kota2300
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Welp this just made things even more frustrating and confusing. The pH of the water I've been giving them is between 5.8 and 6.0, so now I'm seriously at a loss as to why they're growing SO slow and why they're yellowish. Some of the leaves are getting brown spots recently.
Edit: added pics of the other main 3, they're also growing extremely slow and have a yellowish green color. I already know someone's going to say "looks too wet" and mention the curled leaves, I watered each of them with just over an oz of water when you recommend that I should. The leaves haven't uncurled once since they sprouted and actually grew. They won't uncurl at all
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propertyoftheUS
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How close is your light? If you said it's drawing 300w actual it needs to be about 5 or 6' above them. They don't need all that light at this point. But they look overwatered and pH issues
Kota2300
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It's at 2' rn, I'll raise it to about 5-6' and see how that treats them. As I said the pH is between 5.8-6.0 so I'm not sure what else could be wrong. Thanks for the height suggestion!
Kota2300
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Also I edited my recent reply and added new pics and a bit more info to help