Nothing dumber than a flat earther

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RetiredGuerilla

RetiredGuerilla

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MichiganMedGrower said:
It’s a constant. You are the one in denial.
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Ocean water curving 360 degrees around the globe. Rivers flowing up and over the globe for hundreds of miles. Indiscriminate gravitational forces. Radar tracking through a wall of water to track ships below the curvizon. Curved Laser sights tracking targets below the curvizon. Lighthouses miraculously seen through a wall of water below the curvizon. Only fools abandon their own intelligence and common sense to believe in the impossible. You just hate facing the realization that you have been believing in something so insanely stupid. Your welcome Med. :peace:
 
MichiganMedGrower

MichiganMedGrower

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RetiredGuerilla said:
Ocean water curving 360 degrees around the globe. Rivers flowing up and over the globe for hundreds of miles. Indiscriminate gravitational forces. Radar tracking through a wall of water to track ships below the curvizon. Curved Laser sights tracking targets below the curvizon. Lighthouses miraculously seen through a wall of water below the curvizon. Only fools abandon their own intelligence and common sense to believe in the impossible. You just hate facing the realization that you have been believing in something so insanely stupid. Your welcome Med. :peace:
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Everything you just repeated with no proof has already been disproven in this thread many times. With indisputable proof.
 
GreatwhiteNorth

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Rivers can flow north & they're not terribly uncommon but they do so because the center of gravity is the core of the earth and not that the "top" of the globe would be the North pole.
I have yet to see you cite any credible evidence other than conspiratorial youtube vids that have zero scientific evidence.

Major Rivers which Flow North
Rivers That Flow North
THE FACTS:

Unless the land it totally flat, rivers of water run downhill. A large percentage of the planet's river flow in a southerly direction because the source (usually in the mountains) is to the north of the mouth. If the source of a river is at a higher elevation than the mouth, that river will run from the source to the mouth. However, if that (higher) source is to the south of the mouth, that river will then flow to the north (downhill).



Below is a partial list of rivers (length listed when known) that do just that. We have not listed rivers that run to the northwest.

  • Athabasca Alberta, Canada, 765 miles
  • Bann Northern Ireland, 80 miles
  • Bighorn Wyoming and Montana, USA, 336 miles
  • Cauca Colombia, 597 miles
  • Deschutes Oregon, USA, 250 miles
  • Eel Northern California, USA, 78 miles
  • Erne Ireland and Northern Ireland, 60 miles
  • Essequibo Guyana, 600 miles
  • Fox Wisconsin, USA, 200 miles
  • Genesee New York, USA, 144 miles
  • Jordan Utah, USA, 45 miles
  • Lena Russian Federation, 2735 miles
  • Little Bighorn, Wyoming and Montana, USA, 80 miles
  • Magdalena Colombia, 1062 miles
  • Mojave Southern California, USA, 100 miles
  • Monongahela Eastern USA, 128 miles
  • New Virginia and West Virginia, USA, 255 miles
  • Niagara Lake Erie to Lake Ontario, USA/Canada, 39 miles
  • Nile Africa, 4150 miles
  • Ob Russian Federation, 2289 miles
  • Oswego New York, USA, 24 miles
  • Otter Creek Vermont, USA, 75 miles
  • Pend Oreille Washington, USA, 62 miles
  • Red Minnesota, North Dakota, USA (into Canada),
    318 miles
  • Richelieu Quebec, Canada, 208 miles
  • Saginaw Michigan, USA, 20 miles
  • Saint Johns Florida, USA, 275 miles
  • San Pedro Mexico (into Arizona), 142 miles
  • Shennandoah Virginia and West Virginia, USA, 55 miles
  • Willamette Oregon, USA, 188 miles
  • Wallkill New Jersey and New York, USA, 88 miles
  • Yenisey Russian Federation, 2548 miles
  • Youghiogheny Eastern USA, 151 miles
BTW, name calling is not necessary in a debate unless you perceive you are losing.
And it's so cliche unclebuckish.
 
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Cx2H

Cx2H

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RetiredGuerilla said:
Ocean water curving 360 degrees around the globe. Rivers flowing up and over the globe for hundreds of miles. Indiscriminate gravitational forces. Radar tracking through a wall of water to track ships below the curvizon. Curved Laser sights tracking targets below the curvizon. Lighthouses miraculously seen through a wall of water below the curvizon. Only fools abandon their own intelligence and common sense to believe in the impossible. You just hate facing the realization that you have been believing in something so insanely stupid. Your welcome Med. :peace:
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Here's your radar bullsheet...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Over-the-horizon_radar

Apparently regular radar can't paint targets below the horizon (duh), so the Navy uses this.

Nice try though..

Or
This answer from a defense engineer: https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-range-of-an-average-marine-radar-on-US-Navy-ships
 
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RetiredGuerilla

RetiredGuerilla

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GreatwhiteNorth said:
Rivers can flow north & they're not terribly uncommon but they do so because the center of gravity is the core of the earth and not that the "top" of the globe would be the North pole.
I have yet to see you cite any credible evidence other than conspiratorial youtube vids that have zero scientific evidence.

Major Rivers which Flow North
Rivers That Flow North
THE FACTS:

Unless the land it totally flat, rivers of water run downhill. A large percentage of the planet's river flow in a southerly direction because the source (usually in the mountains) is to the north of the mouth. If the source of a river is at a higher elevation than the mouth, that river will run from the source to the mouth. However, if that (higher) source is to the south of the mouth, that river will then flow to the north (downhill).



Below is a partial list of rivers (length listed when known) that do just that. We have not listed rivers that run to the northwest.

  • Athabasca Alberta, Canada, 765 miles
  • Bann Northern Ireland, 80 miles
  • Bighorn Wyoming and Montana, USA, 336 miles
  • Cauca Colombia, 597 miles
  • Deschutes Oregon, USA, 250 miles
  • Eel Northern California, USA, 78 miles
  • Erne Ireland and Northern Ireland, 60 miles
  • Essequibo Guyana, 600 miles
  • Fox Wisconsin, USA, 200 miles
  • Genesee New York, USA, 144 miles
  • Jordan Utah, USA, 45 miles
  • Lena Russian Federation, 2735 miles
  • Little Bighorn, Wyoming and Montana, USA, 80 miles
  • Magdalena Colombia, 1062 miles
  • Mojave Southern California, USA, 100 miles
  • Monongahela Eastern USA, 128 miles
  • New Virginia and West Virginia, USA, 255 miles
  • Niagara Lake Erie to Lake Ontario, USA/Canada, 39 miles
  • Nile Africa, 4150 miles
  • Ob Russian Federation, 2289 miles
  • Oswego New York, USA, 24 miles
  • Otter Creek Vermont, USA, 75 miles
  • Pend Oreille Washington, USA, 62 miles
  • Red Minnesota, North Dakota, USA (into Canada),
    318 miles
  • Richelieu Quebec, Canada, 208 miles
  • Saginaw Michigan, USA, 20 miles
  • Saint Johns Florida, USA, 275 miles
  • San Pedro Mexico (into Arizona), 142 miles
  • Shennandoah Virginia and West Virginia, USA, 55 miles
  • Willamette Oregon, USA, 188 miles
  • Wallkill New Jersey and New York, USA, 88 miles
  • Yenisey Russian Federation, 2548 miles
  • Youghiogheny Eastern USA, 151 miles
BTW, name calling is not necessary in a debate unless you perceive you are losing.
And it's so cliche unclebuckish.
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Stay with me here. Your globe you believe in is round right? So its round in every direction correct? Therefore the great rivers of the earth must flow over the roundness of your globe ball earth. Rivers do follow a declining gradient as the water seeks its level. Water can only flow down a gradual decline. It can't flow over the roundness of the globe because water does not flow UP. Under the globe model the Nile which flows 4200 miles would have to flow up hundreds of miles to account for the roundness of the earth. I been called all sorts of names in this thread so I'm not going to back down even though I have destroyed the silly globe. The FE movement is spreading like wildfire.
 
ttystikk

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RetiredGuerilla said:
Research radars they also prove a flat earth. Doppler radar etc.
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I know a lot more about radar systems than you do.

Doppler radar doesn't change the fact that they are strictly line of sight devices. They can get a return from the Moon but not something at ground level 50 miles away.
 
RetiredGuerilla

RetiredGuerilla

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ttystikk said:
You can't fight stupid people. They'll drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. -Samuel Clements
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Wait. You think the earth is round and rivers flow up and over the rotundity of the earth. Stupid? Name calling means your argument is weak just ask the admin.
 
RetiredGuerilla

RetiredGuerilla

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Cx2H said:
Here's your radar bullsheet...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Over-the-horizon_radar

Apparently regular radar can't paint targets below the horizon (duh), so the Navy uses this.

Nice try though..

Or
This answer from a defense engineer: https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-range-of-an-average-marine-radar-on-US-Navy-ships
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Radar systems can't penetrate water. They also cant make radar signals curve over a curvizon. Sonar in subs is underwater radar. Radar systems works great on the ocean because they are flat. If you think the Navy is going to make hard data on any of their systems public then no wonder you think the earth is a spinning ball.
 
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