Tangerine_
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She wants moar? I say give it to her!
Chuckers paradise......
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jonb1724
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Chugging along with this Mixed Emotions seed run. I think she'll stay on the back burner. I tossed over half because they didn't pass the stem rub test. But then again, the mother of the cross is more old school herb quality. Really not smell, or heavy trics, but she packs a punch. It's has a hazy head until the come down when she'll let you fall. When my 4x8 tent is free, i'll probably sift for F2 breeding and run every bean of it I have.
The first singled out plant is ???, I lost or miss labeled the cross but I have more to run.
The second is Johnny's Chunk. I'm so proud of this runt I'm going to sift the remaining seeds for F2's.
The first singled out plant is ???, I lost or miss labeled the cross but I have more to run.
The second is Johnny's Chunk. I'm so proud of this runt I'm going to sift the remaining seeds for F2's.
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jonb1724
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Today is day 1 for my males. I have a method for breeding. I'm flowering out the males alone, then when I harvest the pollen. I'll make multiple pouches and freeze them and use then pollen when needed. That way I don't need a space to keep my males long term anymore. I also have one Sour 60 male that needs to hurry up! I have auto ladies they needs some of his love.
(Anyday now, would be perfect for Sour 60 to start dropping his pollen)
(Anyday now, would be perfect for Sour 60 to start dropping his pollen)
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jonb1724
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Just a question. Why are so many "breeders" selling F1 crosses $100+ per pack? New Genetic come out so often that they can't truly be stable for the expression that they advertise. I guess I'm looking for a answer to justify buying a pack of Thug Pug's Banana S1. It's a lost strain (long gone) unless I get it from a cross breeding. But I found a pack for $125. I guess over $60 feels unreal and most new strain out now, I have either the mother,father, and sometimes I have both. When I find new gear for $25-35, I usually have money for 1 of EVERYTHING . Sorry for the rant, interested in opinions though.
Jeez you must do a lot of breeding .did you end up finding the perfect purple strain yet ?
greencropper
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hi Bob, the purp pollen chuck will happen in 2020, , ive still gotta snag the Rare Dankness Rare Darkness for that chuck, 2019 will be the exotic cookie/gelato types chuck, 2021 will be the TK/GG4/trippy weed types chuck, this season was supposed to be the early finishing heavy yielding types...but who knows how it will all go? how are yours going now? nearly finished for the season?
Yeah mine are nearly all done . still have a black d.o.g x gth1 about 5 weeks to go.all her sisters were early finishers .
Just about a month into my winter breeding programs. Still not cold enough to put up the greenhouses out bush yet. The autos I'm breeding with are
Dinafem xxl white widow
Big Buddha critical mass
Pyramid seeds white widow
Tangie
Tangerine
Then the photo strains are
Skullcap
Strawberry glue
LA confidential
Critical +2.0
Pineapple express
Crumbled lime
Cinderella xx
Plus I have another outdoor breeding program starting in June
Karma genetics biker kush v 2.0
Rare dankness
Scotts og
Night terror
Star killer
Jenny kush
Skywalker
501st og
Rugburn. Only bought 2 regs each of the raredankness strains so it will be a greenhouse raredankness orgy. Akot warmer than last year. Still have the windows open and fans going.
greencropper
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great variety there for sure! in QLD i guess you can grow all yr round outdoors, not sure whether i will do an outdoors winter job or go away for a few mths...will see in the next 6wks or so
Cold$moke
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Man you guys chuck with such few beans?
I thought you where supposed to hunt through hundreds first to find the breeding stock.
Or am i being a retard lol i am very tired and not a breeder or chucker yet but i plan on chucking soon just so i can afford to GO THROUGH hundreds to find gems
I thought you where supposed to hunt through hundreds first to find the breeding stock.
Or am i being a retard lol i am very tired and not a breeder or chucker yet but i plan on chucking soon just so i can afford to GO THROUGH hundreds to find gems
greencropper
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you're right, a 'proper' breeder would take the time & spend up to 5yrs to get a solid stable strain happening, personally i couldnt be bothered going to all that effort when on average ive found if i do at least 5-10 pollen chucks i usually find at least 1 good type worth keeping/growing...in just 1 season, and sometimes a super type will emerge from those pollen chucks, ive got a few chucks that im pretty sure would rival some of the best on offer from any bank!Man you guys chuck with such few beans?
I thought you where supposed to hunt through hundreds first to find the breeding stock.
Or am i being a retard lol i am very tired and not a breeder or chucker yet but i plan on chucking soon just so i can afford to GO THROUGH hundreds to find gems
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genuity
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All the pics on the first page are from small samples, IMO it really don't take 1000 damn seeds to find the one,it helps..but that's not all it's about(maybe when looking for a keeper to run) I'd have 1000 kids if it was like that,got to be a winner out of that many right?Man you guys chuck with such few beans?
I thought you where supposed to hunt through hundreds first to find the breeding stock.
Or am i being a retard lol i am very tired and not a breeder or chucker yet but i plan on chucking soon just so i can afford to GO THROUGH hundreds to find gems
I personally think it is a collection of things,number 1 being the seed maker/chucker/breeder. If one chucks shit,then the outcome will be shit(try not to Chuck genetics that don't share more than 40-50% of the same makeup)
Number 2,how the grower/seed maker/chucker/breeder treats the plants is a big factor also(what are his/her goals?) I started out simplistic, this nug is good,oh and this nug is good also,i want my buddies to smoke this,i wonder what a male from this,will do to this? That gave me my first chuck(grape stomper og x candydrop) turned out very good.
Just my opinion.
Cold$moke
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Ha ha awsome analogy , i wouldnt want a 1000 kids either lol
Im heading down the same road
Gota start somewhere ....
I get what your saying and will do the same.
thats my goal for chucking though is so i can have a larger pool to select from without
Have to buy them in 10 packs
And so i dont feel bad for killing runts that i paid for haha
CannaBruh
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If it takes thousands, why are all the cuts that are passed around only represented by double digit nomenclature gelato 33 wifi 43 etc etc and not "gelato 571?" perhaps the numbers don't represent some sequence of germination/growth and are completely arbitrary...
It takes one seed, your odds improve relatively for finding something that every trait you want the more seeds you pop but it doesn't increase the odds of each seed having something special. So perhaps it wouldn't matter which plant were selected of thousands, whatever is presented to the masses would be accepted as the clear standout, even if it was found in the first seed cracked. Selection is very subjective, one breeder might have kept gelato 22 and another gelato 1, but we're fed 33 like it was leaps and bounds better than others which it might have been but then how dank is the line if only 1 stand out in the whole pool? When a line has some fire, usually fire is found within that line and often ime.
When folks talk about digging through thousands to find some one cut I see it as signalling that they are able to pop that many seeds and you cannot therefore you should buy theirs and trust their superior judgements and pools.
This thread is a great example, just ask how many of the chuckers are popping thousands to find these beautiful specimens? I'll start.. not me.
How many seeds were sifted through to find gg4, chemD, on and on
It takes one seed, your odds improve relatively for finding something that every trait you want the more seeds you pop but it doesn't increase the odds of each seed having something special. So perhaps it wouldn't matter which plant were selected of thousands, whatever is presented to the masses would be accepted as the clear standout, even if it was found in the first seed cracked. Selection is very subjective, one breeder might have kept gelato 22 and another gelato 1, but we're fed 33 like it was leaps and bounds better than others which it might have been but then how dank is the line if only 1 stand out in the whole pool? When a line has some fire, usually fire is found within that line and often ime.
When folks talk about digging through thousands to find some one cut I see it as signalling that they are able to pop that many seeds and you cannot therefore you should buy theirs and trust their superior judgements and pools.
This thread is a great example, just ask how many of the chuckers are popping thousands to find these beautiful specimens? I'll start.. not me.
How many seeds were sifted through to find gg4, chemD, on and on
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Cold$moke
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I hear ya
I have found great weed in my freebies too bud
Just saying what i think is all only ever having grown about 40 strains mabey more i the last 15 years
And yes going through a 1000 is pretty arduous
But statistically speaking, well you know...
And the numbers i grow out to find super gems would be on the down low haha
I just want to have enough seeds so i can kill runts without feeling bad i paid 18 bucks for it lol
Not in anyway saying you have to pop a 100 seeds.
But i like to think what could you find if you did?
Cause im sure if you pop a hundred im sure youll see certain phenos pop up more then once and one will be the best out of all of them
Is what im saying
sorry i hate buying beans anymore just to have mediocre results (grower error aside)
But like you said i have found gems in a single seed many times
I have found great weed in my freebies too bud
Just saying what i think is all only ever having grown about 40 strains mabey more i the last 15 years
And yes going through a 1000 is pretty arduous
But statistically speaking, well you know...
And the numbers i grow out to find super gems would be on the down low haha
I just want to have enough seeds so i can kill runts without feeling bad i paid 18 bucks for it lol
Not in anyway saying you have to pop a 100 seeds.
But i like to think what could you find if you did?
Cause im sure if you pop a hundred im sure youll see certain phenos pop up more then once and one will be the best out of all of them
Is what im saying
sorry i hate buying beans anymore just to have mediocre results (grower error aside)
But like you said i have found gems in a single seed many times
CannaBruh
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Depends, anywhere from day 1 to a few weeks in, waiting a few weeks allows larger flowers to grow before they start working on seeds. If you pollinate day one I think the end flowers will be relatively less ideal for smoking from a weight-of-material point of view (full of seed, not much flower material) vs letting the same go 4-5 weeks (nice chunky sensi flower to then pollinate) Either can work, others might have better info.
You can also selectively spot pollinate a branch or flower or two here and there and still get a nice sensi harvest with some seeded bud from same plants.
greencropper
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usually 2-3wks into flower for me, if you put the girl with the boy as soon as the first pistil appears you will not end up with as many seeds than if you put her out when she has more advanced bud growth
klx
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If you dont mind, can you elaborate on this a bit, what's your experience?