First Grow LED/CFL White Widow and Purple Nepal

[perville]

Hey all,

This is my first grow and it's been a lot of fun and learning. I am growing two WW fems and one "Purple Nepal" sativa landrace that came with my high grade seeds order.

In FF ocean forest watered with FF bloom as only nute. 3 weeks of flower ~50 days from seed.

Any thoughts or suggestions would very much be welcomed.

I think the Nepalese is interesting because it grew two main stems with no fiddling from me. Is this normal?

Thanks.

 

[zypheruk]

Your white widows I would imagine are more Indica leaning if so you will find they grow more squat. Purple Nepal if it is more Sativa leaning will grow quicker and over take the others, which may well give you some problems in a months time.
Enjoy

 

[perville]

Oh the widows are much more indica leaning. The seed website says the purple nepals are 100% landrace sativa but from what I see Purple Nepal is a hybrid..
The purple nepal is flowering much slower than ww which I didn't think about before.

 

[perville]

Can anyone guess how much longer the nepal has until i could harvest at the earliest? Or maybe a yield guess on the widows? We are at week 4 of flower

 

[skiz]

Your soil looks really wet with the Purple Nepal. I've never grown that strain so I could be totally wrong, but she looks like she's curling from over water...?
They should be finished flowering around 60 days, so you got about a month left.
How many plants? From what I can see there, maybe a couple ounces on the widows.

 

[perville]

The leaves are better on the nepal now, and the widows are plumping up nicely. I'm bending over the main colas to level out the canopy and get light to the sides of the cola. Not 100% sure if this is advisable but it seems to be working to add mass more quickly to the colas. Not bad plants for the $45 ebay lights?

 

[perville]

How much longer do we think the nepal is going to take than the widows?

 

[growingforfun]

That nepal looks damn near pure satuva to me. Your looking a a 12 week or longer flower cycle on that. Ive had pure sativas go 14 weeks an want more time. I dont like those types myself... its too easy to run into problems and need to cut early an get a bud that wasnt really worth the time because it never fully ripened up.

 

[perville]

That nepal looks damn near pure satuva to me. Your looking a a 12 week or longer flower cycle on that. Ive had pure sativas go 14 weeks an want more time. I dont like those types myself... its too easy to run into problems and need to cut early an get a bud that wasnt really worth the time because it never fully ripened up.

Ahh... Damn. Yeah it's not putting on any bud yet. They shouldn't call these purple nepal. Wish I could put it outside. Would that f it up?
Well i have some strawberry cough and white lsd auto seeds for next time around. Question, if you knew you had only space for two plants and were using regular seeds how many would you germ?

 

[growingforfun]

Ahh... Damn. Yeah it's not putting on any bud yet. They shouldn't call these purple nepal. Wish I could put it outside. Would that f it up?
Well i have some strawberry cough and white lsd auto seeds for next time around. Question, if you knew you had only space for two plants and were using regular seeds how many would you germ?

Sure put it outside, but i would wait till may first or may 5th so it doesnt go back to veg.

Id germ as many as possible in solo cups half full of dirt, the best portion id transplant up to half gallon containers, and let the rest continue (1-2 weeks from sprout) around a week later id take the ones still in solo cups and remove them and add dirt to the bottom ajd put them back in, so they now have a full solo cup of dirt. This keeps them small while your best ones continue growing quickly. Keep the solo cups on the edge of your area so they really grow slow. Transplant up the good ones again. Move lights to 12/12. Kill males. Flower the good ones and keep the solo cups going as slowly as you can in a veg area so your ready to flower them as soon as this cycle is done. Ive kept plants in solo cups over 3 months without issues but it takes practice, removong dirt from the rootball and adding fresh dirt below to keep them happy.

Ive plant 20 an gotten 17 or 18 males, so yea.. random is random.

 

[perville]

Sure put it outside, but i would wait till may first or may 5th so it doesnt go back to veg.

Id germ as many as possible in solo cups half full of dirt, the best portion id transplant up to half gallon containers, and let the rest continue (1-2 weeks from sprout) around a week later id take the ones still in solo cups and remove them and add dirt to the bottom ajd put them back in, so they now have a full solo cup of dirt. This keeps them small while your best ones continue growing quickly. Keep the solo cups on the edge of your area so they really grow slow. Transplant up the good ones again. Move lights to 12/12. Kill males. Flower the good ones and keep the solo cups going as slowly as you can in a veg area so your ready to flower them as soon as this cycle is done. Ive kept plants in solo cups over 3 months without issues but it takes practice, removong dirt from the rootball and adding fresh dirt below to keep them happy.

Ive plant 20 an gotten 17 or 18 males, so yea.. random is random.

That's a genius idea. I'm growing in my closet. Would that mean I'd need to divide it in to parts for flower and veg with a piece of plywood or something?

 

[growingforfun]

That's a genius idea. I'm growing in my closet. Would that mean I'd need to divide it in to parts for flower and veg with a piece of plywood or something?

In a area like that the "easiest" way may be to buy some 35 gallon rubbermade trashcans. Every 12 hours move your flowering plants into the trashcan (s) and then put a blanket over top of the cans to make sure no light gets in. That lets you have one area with the lights on 24hours, vegging and flowering at the same time. Its kinda a lot of work, but its not too bad really. And you can flower a fair number of plants like this while vegging.

This is how i have done it in the past. If the plant is too big for the trashcan then find something bigger.

 

[Frank Nitty]

The leaves are better on the nepal now, and the widows are plumping up nicely. I'm bending over the main colas to level out the canopy and get light to the sides of the cola. Not 100% sure if this is advisable but it seems to be working to add mass more quickly to the colas. Not bad plants for the $45 ebay lights?

I'm going to get those $45 lights...from Amazon though...

 

[Frank Nitty]

Sure put it outside, but i would wait till may first or may 5th so it doesnt go back to veg.

Id germ as many as possible in solo cups half full of dirt, the best portion id transplant up to half gallon containers, and let the rest continue (1-2 weeks from sprout) around a week later id take the ones still in solo cups and remove them and add dirt to the bottom ajd put them back in, so they now have a full solo cup of dirt. This keeps them small while your best ones continue growing quickly. Keep the solo cups on the edge of your area so they really grow slow. Transplant up the good ones again. Move lights to 12/12. Kill males. Flower the good ones and keep the solo cups going as slowly as you can in a veg area so your ready to flower them as soon as this cycle is done. Ive kept plants in solo cups over 3 months without issues but it takes practice, removong dirt from the rootball and adding fresh dirt below to keep them happy.

Ive plant 20 an gotten 17 or 18 males, so yea.. random is random.

You are a genius man!!! you are Obi-Wan Kenobi!!! The Force runs strong in you!!!

 

[perville]

In a area like that the "easiest" way may be to buy some 35 gallon rubbermade trashcans. Every 12 hours move your flowering plants into the trashcan (s) and then put a blanket over top of the cans to make sure no light gets in. That lets you have one area with the lights on 24hours, vegging and flowering at the same time. Its kinda a lot of work, but its not too bad really. And you can flower a fair number of plants like this while vegging.

This is how i have done it in the past. If the plant is too big for the trashcan then find something bigger.

Thanks for the advice on maximizing my setup. I feel like Luke Skywalker learning the way of the jedi.

I definitely want to increase my yields on the next grow. I have 3 led panels good for 1 plant each and 2 60w cfl bulbs that I can use to veg if I make a separate veg area under my sink. Is there anything else that i should get to bump this operation up?

 

[perville]

I'm going to get those $45 lights...from Amazon though...

It seems like all the offbrand led lights are more expensive on Amazon? I have the "300w" led panels which are pretty good you gotta put the plants so they're almost touching the panel and I got a "600w" ebay cob led that packs a punch but seems to be less colorful light than the regular panels

 

[growingforfun]

Thanks for the advice on maximizing my setup. I feel like Luke Skywalker learning the way of the jedi.

I definitely want to increase my yields on the next grow. I have 3 led panels good for 1 plant each and 2 60w cfl bulbs that I can use to veg if I make a separate veg area under my sink. Is there anything else that i should get to bump this operation up?

Im gonna bet under the sink is a bad idea, thats generally a damp area even if it is dry, amd then you add plamts to the mox and id say your odds of mold are a far bit higher than normal. You can get a small grow tent for around 100, well, most sizes are 100 now. Id save up an do it right. Till then throw all the light you have in the flower area, untill you have yourself right on the edge of what you can keep cool. Plants love it at 80f. You can dyi some co2, but thats only helpful if you also plan to distill it to alcohol after imo. Moonshine an homegrown is a great combo tho

 

[growingforfun]

It seems like all the offbrand led lights are more expensive on Amazon? I have the "300w" led panels which are pretty good you gotta put the plants so they're almost touching the panel and I got a "600w" ebay cob led that packs a punch but seems to be less colorful light than the regular panels

Your 100% right that amazon is not always cheapest. Some things are a great deal there, others are not.
Im firmly in the hps camp tho myself. Im not opposed to leds per say... if they made them with a mogal base i could screw into a normal hood id be all over them. But ya... i hate the panel style. So hard to move away heat cleanly. Ive def giving them a few shots tho. They work, just not my thing.

 

[Frank Nitty]

It seems like all the offbrand led lights are more expensive on Amazon? I have the "300w" led panels which are pretty good you gotta put the plants so they're almost touching the panel and I got a "600w" ebay cob led that packs a punch but seems to be less colorful light than the regular panels

So do you think that it's worth it to buy the off brand lights? I gu

 

[perville]

Im gonna bet under the sink is a bad idea, thats generally a damp area even if it is dry, amd then you add plamts to the mox and id say your odds of mold are a far bit higher than normal. You can get a small grow tent for around 100, well, most sizes are 100 now. Id save up an do it right. Till then throw all the light you have in the flower area, untill you have yourself right on the edge of what you can keep cool. Plants love it at 80f. You can dyi some co2, but thats only helpful if you also plan to distill it to alcohol after imo. Moonshine an homegrown is a great combo tho

I ordered a little 24x24x36 grow tent for $43 off Amazon so that can be my veg area. Ebay was more expensive for tents. Weird. I figure I could fit 4-6 little plants in there with my 120w of cfl bulbs. How often do you shake off and replace the old dirt from the solo cup-confined plants?