Incet frass???

Greenthumbs256

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Hey guys I got some incet frass and I'm trying to learn different ways of using it! From what I have learned it basically incet poop! I added it as a soil amendment to more diversify my soil life! I have heard that it can be used as a foliar? What step of life is that best used? And what does it actually do for my soil and plant life?

I'm also looking for a few good foliar spray recipes for transition into flower about to flip the 12/12 on a few girls soon and want to give them a good boost!

I'm 100% organic rols! Compost teas, homemade worm castings, coconut and aloe, and em1 plus some top dressing pretty much covers 90% of all my feedings I also do a sst just not very often trying to stop doing them!
 
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Greenthumbs256

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Also can anyone fill me in on what em1 actually does? As far as I can grasp it's basically microbes In a bottle, the same microbes I brew in my teas and have tons of in my soil? RIGHT? Just trying to justify why I need it when my soil life is pretty dam happy I take turns using all types of organic feeds and have a very diverse list of admendemts! Not to mention fresh ewc! And compost!
 

Dmannn

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I have read that it contains insect chemicals that cause the plant to freak out and send more roots out, this; with some raised beds or air felt pots will be to a great advantage. Foliar should have the same affect on veg growth, insect frass also has some NPK content as advertised. It also contains beneficial bacteria as well. Not sure how it repels insects though...It ay attract them. I have no experience with it.
 

Greenthumbs256

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I have read that it contains insect chemicals that cause the plant to freak out and send more roots out, this; with some raised beds or air felt pots will be to a great advantage. Foliar should have the same affect on veg growth, insect frass also has some NPK content as advertised. It also contains beneficial bacteria as well. Not sure how it repels insects though...It ay attract them. I have no experience with it.
I don't think it repeals insects at all! But thanks for the info. I'd love to hear more about this chemical that's in it! From what I've been able to learn and find its just insect shit (poop, feces)
 

stoned-monkey

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my understanding (haven't used it, other then wild insects doing there thing in my garden) is its basically a no composting needed manure. top dressing works great or mix right into soil. insect exoskeletons are a great source of chitin, this is said to help prevent pest and help strengthen cell walls. well that's the simple version anyway. I haven't heard anything bad about insect frass however its not widely available or affordable to most.
 

lokie

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I have eaten crickets before, more then once, and they are not to bad. probably eaten plenty of insect frass too, although not intentionally.
Much more is likely.

The FDA allows lots of things that you may not even think of.
Different amounts for different food stuffs.

Insect Filth (AOAC 981.21) Average of 30 or more insect fragments per 10 grams

Rodent filth (AOAC 981.21) Average of 1 or more rodent hairs per 10 grams

DEFECT SOURCE: Insect fragments - pre/post harvest and processing insect infestation. Rodent hair - post harvest and/or processing contamination with animal hair or excreta
SIGNIFICANCE: Aesthetic


https://www.fda.gov/Food/GuidanceRegulation/GuidanceDocumentsRegulatoryInformation/SanitationTransportation/ucm056174.htm
 

stoned-monkey

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I'm about to start my own cricket farm with the intention of collecting frass. Ill more than likely put a screen as floor mat and shake out frass. Ill feed them all veggies as well to get a good npk value out if the frass. I can source about 100 crickets for 10 bucks maybe less.
like it. will you use the crickets themselves too?
 

BionicΩChronic

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like it. will you use the crickets themselves too?
Oh yeah no matter how much u feed a colony ive seen them turn cannibalistic then loose interest after halfway eating a cricket.I've seen them do it after u keep them for a week or so so you can go fishing again. The deadones will probably break down into pieces after being crawled over and chewed on so much. Eventually falling through the screen in tiny bits if I don't pick them out soon after death and hulk smash them into said tiny bits. (Via putting them in a bag and smashing it like some oreos. Gotta let them sit for a week or so n get hard first tho)
 
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SchmoeJoe

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From what I've seen the chitin in frass is more available to the plant and better at catalyzing the SAR (systemic aquired resistance) response than crustacean (shrimp/crab) shell meal.
 

BionicΩChronic

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From what I've seen the chitin in frass is more available to the plant and better at catalyzing the SAR (systemic aquired resistance) response than crustacean (shrimp/crab) shell meal.
More reason to get my ass in gear n build the cage for them lmao. I need to acquire a fish tank... Put 500 of them in there. That'll spit some frass out quick probably 3cups for 4cups a month not including decomposed insect matter
 

natureboygrower

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i believe when you use frass,you want to topdress it dry.no watering in.you want as much contact between frass/roots for a few days before it gets completely watered in.
 

BionicΩChronic

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i believe when you use frass,you want to topdress it dry.no watering in.you want as much contact between frass/roots for a few days before it gets completely watered in.
How does it contact the roots before you water it in if its topdressed?
Do u mean like for plants whose soil level has receded due to watering?
 
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