What political issues are you unwilling to compromise on?

ttystikk

Well-Known Member
let's talk some more about jordan peterson.

you guys seemed to stop defending him after i dug up his "rape wouldn;t be necessary if women weren;t so choosy" remarks

how can you call yourself a liberal in any way and support that neo-nazi hate monger?
Hey, why don't you ever speak to any of his points directly?

It'sI because you know the Democratic Party sucks on those issues?
 

ttystikk

Well-Known Member
I want unions back. It turns out that corporations have and are aggressively wielding market power over labor, reducing both wages and employment- and taxes. This explains the current economic malaise experienced by so many Americans very well;

More and more companies have monopoly power over workers’ wages. That’s killing the economy.
The trend can explain slow growth, “missing” workers, and stagnant salaries.
By Suresh Naidu, Eric Posner, and Glen Weyl

https://www.vox.com/the-big-idea/2018/4/6/17204808/wages-employers-workers-monopsony-growth-stagnation-inequality

Unions protected workers in many ways. It turns out their influence was more beneficial to our entire country than previously disclosed.
 

UncleBuck

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Hey, why don't you ever speak to any of his points directly?

It'sI because you know the Democratic Party sucks on those issues?
why doesn't padaraper ever speak to any points about jordan peterson directly?

it's because he knows he's an ultra far right wing nazi that he worships?
 

ttystikk

Well-Known Member
why doesn't padaraper ever speak to any points about jordan peterson directly?

it's because he knows he's an ultra far right wing nazi that he worships?
I've never heard of him and I've never seen @Padawanbater2 refer to him.

This is you making up a bogeyman just to try and smear Progressives with.

Your tactics have gotten even more desperate and outrageous of late. What are you so afraid of?

What specifically do you dislike about the policy positions that Progressives hold?
 

UncleBuck

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I've never heard of him and I've never seen @Padawanbater2 refer to him.

This is you making up a bogeyman just to try and smear Progressives with.

Your tactics have gotten even more desperate and outrageous of late. What are you so afraid of?

What specifically do you dislike about the policy positions that Progressives hold?
desperate and outrageous would be your buddy padaraper's support of the youtube nazi jordan peterson.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
Keep trying.

Zionist apologist thug.
ask your buddy padaraper about his support of jordan peterson, who is a fanatical right wing extremist.

these are who you and your fellow progressives look up to now: russian propagandists and youtube nazis
 

ttystikk

Well-Known Member
ask your buddy padaraper about his support of jordan peterson, who is a fanatical right wing extremist.

these are who you and your fellow progressives look up to now: russian propagandists and youtube nazis
Only in your fevered dreams is any of that anywhere near the truth.

You're terrified of the Progressive Movement because you identify as an establishment Democrat. I get it.

But if you and the rest of your intolerant party can't accept that the mood is shifting left then you'll be left behind.
 

UncleBuck

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Only in your fevered dreams is any of that anywhere near the truth.

You're terrified of the Progressive Movement because you identify as an establishment Democrat. I get it.

But if you and the rest of your intolerant party can't accept that the mood is shifting left then you'll be left behind.
moonofalabama is indisputably russian propaganda.

your buddy padaraper is indisputably a fan of jordan peterson, the youtube nazi for dumbasses

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you'r brainwashed
 

ttystikk

Well-Known Member
moonofalabama is indisputably russian propaganda.

your buddy padaraper is indisputably a fan of jordan peterson, the youtube nazi for dumbasses

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you'r brainwashed
That doesn't mention the person you're smearing without any evidence.

When it gets down to it, you really suck at this whole debate and discussion of ideas thing.

You might try taking a class- on second thought, maybe not. Considering your behavior here, you might get your face pushed in.
 

Rob Roy

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If the government worked the way it was designed to work, we wouldn't be paying for things we don't support. People with power and money have influenced the government for their own interests outside of what the people actually want. In a perfect world, elected politicians would actually support the will of their constituents. Unfortunately we've allowed special interests to control policy. The answer is to elect people who've taken a solid stand against special interest influence, who've pledged not to take corporate bribes, and who've promised to represent the American people.
Sort of.

However, if the "will of the constituents" intervenes into the life of a peaceful individual to the extent it robs the peaceful individual of self determination, then the politician becomes just a leader of a gang. Which is clearly where things are these days.

A thing wrong to do, doesn't become right by the number of people who advocate it being done. So Democracy doesn't trump individual rights and it shouldn't. Bernie doesn't understand or respect that. He's not alone though. since not many politicians do.

Government, at least the American government, from the beginning was supposed to protect individual rights, not abuse individual rights if enough people agreed to doing it.

The bill of rights was a nice thought, but it's just about dead now...some people predicted that a long time ago...

 

peabody2018

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It depends on the circumstances. I don't think any of my positions are unreasonable, in fact, most Americans already agree with them, progressive, Independent, and conservative across the board. The only reason the politicians who are supposed to represent the American people don't is because they accept special interest money that pays them not to. I won't vote for or support anyone who supports a political position because they're paid to. Those days are over.
You assume most agree with you
 

Unclebaldrick

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Clinton won the Democrat nomination and she wasn’t a progressive. You live in a bubble
There is more to it than that. For Barnie to get that close despite his obvious shortcomings shows that progressive ideas are very popular. I can't say the same for Progressives.

He's meh.

And you are not quite bright.
 
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