HR McMaster Out, John Boulton In; Fix News Completes Takeover of the White House

UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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ttystikk said:
The American 'democracy' has killed millions of innocent civilians around the world since 9/11/2001, including a million Iraqi citizens.

So who is the most murderous 'dictatorial' country? I'd say the United States has a fucking lock on that title.

Did you fail to notice that Putin won reelection last week? How does that make him a dictator, any more or less than our own presidential elections do? Are you now going to try to tell us that America's political process is any fairer or freer?

And while we're on the subject, it's fine for us to routinely meddle in Russian elections time and again but it's the end of the world if they try it with us?

You've got a bad case of double standards, along with some amazing blinders.

Russia and the US are really not as different as Rachel Maddow would have you believe.
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this reads like an exact list of trump talking points.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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UncleBuck said:
this reads like an exact list of trump talking points.
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That's a classic nothing statement.

Is anything I said factually incorrect?

It's time to deal in facts, inconvenient or not.

If you can't handle them the problem lies with you, not reality.

Establishment Democrats like to SAY they're against war, but I've noticed they still vote for record defense funding and plenty of military programs. Mrs Clinton voted for the invasion of Iraq and she had plenty of Democratic company.

I'm tired of distinctions without differences, which is why I'm done voting for more of the same Democrats.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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ttystikk said:
That's a classic nothing statement.

Is anything I said factually incorrect?

It's time to deal in facts, inconvenient or not.

If you can't handle them the problem lies with you, not reality.

Establishment Democrats like to SAY they're against war, but I've noticed they still vote for record defense funding and plenty of military programs. Mrs Clinton voted for the invasion of Iraq and she had plenty of Democratic company.

I'm tired of distinctions without differences, which is why I'm done voting for more of the same Democrats.
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"getting along better with russia is a good thing!"

"you think we're so innocent?"

"putin won reelection, so he's not a dictator"

"it's OK for russia to meddle in our elections since we did it to them"

go home, trump.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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doublejj said:
I want to thank all those millenials that just couldn't vote for Hillary for this nightmare.....fucking morons
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I'm getting tired of hearing this line of shit.

No politician has any right to demand anyone's vote; they have to EARN it. That's how democracy works!

The notion that Mrs Clinton was entitled to votes is fundamental to the establishment Democratic Party attitude problem.

Maybe the party could put forward candidates that voters want to support?

I know it's a crazy idea and all, but nominating the candidate most palatable to a tiny group of rich donors seems to have failed everyone- except perhaps consultants on the DCCC approved list.
 
Justin-case

Justin-case

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ttystikk said:
I'm getting tired of hearing this line of shit.

No politician has any right to demand anyone's vote; they have to EARN it. That's how democracy works!

The notion that Mrs Clinton was entitled to votes is fundamental to the establishment Democratic Party attitude problem.

Maybe the party could put forward candidates that voters want to support?

I know it's a crazy idea and all, but nominating the candidate most palatable to a tiny group of rich donors seems to have failed everyone- except perhaps consultants on the DCCC approved list.
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Yet she won the popular vote. What a shit post.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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UncleBuck said:
"getting along better with russia is a good thing!"

"you think we're so innocent?"

"putin won reelection, so he's not a dictator"

"it's OK for russia to meddle in our elections since we did it to them"

go home, trump.
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Taking these in order;
YES. Getting along better with Russia would be a very good thing! Who benefits from the current situation, aside from our defense complex? Keep in mind that most Ukrainian citizens want to be part of Russia and that includes most Crimean citizens. Contrary to the bullshit we're constantly being forcefed, the breakup was engineered by American covert activity to begin with, not the desires of the people on the ground.

You're god-damned right we aren't innocent- and in fact what we've been doing for the last half century is much worse than what Russia or anyone else has been up to! Holy fuck, you sound like you approve of permanent war. Well, I don't. It's time to fucking stop fighting. We're only in 7 wars around the world, which is 6 more than the Russians are involved in.

Putin DID just win reelection. Now, convince us that their election process is somehow less fair or equitable than our totally corrupt system of handing power to the highest bidder.

We don't get to freak out that they are meddling with our elections if we are doing the same to them. We've been doing it since before our massive interventions got Yeltsin into office. And we're still doing it. Dude, you're sounding like a baby crying that no one else gets to cheat but you. Fuck your American exceptionalism.

GTFO, you have drunk way too much of the party line propaganda Kool-aid and you can't think objectively at all anymore. Turn off Rachel Maddow, back away from the television and try to educate yourself about world events.
 
doublejj

doublejj

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ttystikk said:
I'm getting tired of hearing this line of shit.

No politician has any right to demand anyone's vote; they have to EARN it. That's how democracy works!

The notion that Mrs Clinton was entitled to votes is fundamental to the establishment Democratic Party attitude problem.

Maybe the party could put forward candidates that voters want to support?

I know it's a crazy idea and all, but nominating the candidate most palatable to a tiny group of rich donors seems to have failed everyone- except perhaps consultants on the DCCC approved list.
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You can put that on my tombstone.....thanks
 
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Justin-case

Justin-case

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ttystikk said:
Taking these in order;
YES. Getting along better with Russia would be a very good thing! Who benefits from the current situation, aside from our defense complex? Keep in mind that most Ukrainian citizens want to be part of Russia and that includes most Crimean citizens. Contrary to the bullshit we're constantly being forcefed, the breakup was engineered by American covert activity to begin with, not the desires of the people on the ground.

You're god-damned right we aren't innocent- and in fact what we've been doing for the last half century is much worse than what Russia or anyone else has been up to! Holy fuck, you sound like you approve of permanent war. Well, I don't. It's time to fucking stop fighting. We're only in 7 wars around the world, which is 6 more than the Russians are involved in.

Putin DID just win reelection. Now, convince us that their election process is somehow less fair or equitable than our totally corrupt system of power to the highest bidder.

We don't get to freak out that they are meddling with our elections if we are doing the same to them. We've been doing it since before our massive interventions got Yeltsin into office. And we're still doing it. Dude, you're sounding like a baby crying that no one else gets to cheat but you.

GTFO, you have drunk way too much of the party line propaganda Kool-aid and you can't think objectively at all anymore. Turn off Rachel Maddow, back away from the television and try to educate yourself about world events.
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Lol, You believe RT.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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doublejj said:
It was a vote against trump and this madness.....not for the ideal fantasy candidate....Hillary had the best chance against trump & a few spoiled self centered brain washed millenials did this & doomed the rest of us to hell.
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Yeah, I voted for her after it was made clear that Bernie would not be allowed to gain the nomination. The sordid way he was treated is what turned a lot of voters away from Clinton, nevermind her probanking, establishment credentials.

Ignoring the interests of 90% of the American electorate has consequences.

Run a better candidate or expect to keep losing.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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doublejj said:
most of the stuff about Hillary was Russian bot BS and the Millenials bought it hook line & sinker....
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That's a convenient excuse for the Democratic Party to hide behind but it just isn't true.

The more people believe it, the longer those who buy power in this country will be able to keep doing so.
 
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