NYC's Board of Elections will admit it purged more than 200,000 voters from city rolls

[Fogdog]

LOL

I know this is very hard for you and all but it's time to accept that the Democratic party's majority did not want Bernie to be their candidate in 2016.

 

[ttystikk]

LOL

I know this is very hard for you and all but it's time to accept that the Democratic party's majority did not want Bernie to be their candidate in 2016.

The majority of the money surely didn't.

 

[Fogdog]

This is not the product of a foreign power meddling in our electoral system, this is homegrown.

Those who know their agenda isn't supported by the majority will turn to suppressing the votes of the opposition. This is the naked face of authoritarianism.

Is this where you complain about Democrats in Arizona when the party in power and runs the elections are entirely Republican?

https://www.salon.com/2016/03/24/a_...ted_massive_lines_and_turned_many_voters_away


In Maricopa County, polling locations were reduced 70 percent — from 200 polling places to only 60 — since 2012. This left one polling place for every 21,000 voters. As a result, the Maricopa County voters who managed to stay waited for up to five hours to cast their ballots. Voters registered as Democrats showed up to the polls to find their status changed to Independent, and other voters who had changed their status by the official deadline from Independent to a listed party were told their status had not changed. Many voters received new voter ID cards in the mail on Election Day, with some of the cards containing information that established them in a new district and thus with a new polling place.

so what did it come down to eventually between clinton and the pedo? 17,000 votes? jus sayin

tbh i think it's known that not only states were infiltrated, but votes changed..they're scared as shit to tell us.

zounds.

Those Republicans sure did fuck up the election.

Clinton won in spite of Republican meddling.

 

[ttystikk]

Is this where you complain about Democrats in Arizona when the party in power and runs the elections are entirely Republican?

zounds.

Those Republicans sure did fuck up the election.

Clinton won in spite of Republican meddling.

Take responsibility for your own fantasies.

 

[Fogdog]

The majority of the money surely didn't.

yep, that big money sure did buy the black brown and women's vote. You haven't yet explained why white men aren't affected.

Something else I don't understand. Bernie and Hillary spent the same amount. Bernie spent 220 million on his campaign. As of July 1, Clinton spent the same amount. I mean, wow, Bernie spent the same amount but lost by 12% margin. He must have been an awful campaigner. That, or he wasn't very good at running his campaign.

https://www.opensecrets.org/pres16/candidate?id=n00000528
https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/...l-campaign-fundraising/july/public/index.html

 

[Fogdog]

Take responsibility for your own fantasies.

Republicans control the election process in Arizona. It was the governor's appointee (both republicans) who made those decisions about polling places and forcing people to re-register. Explain please how this is Democrats fault.

 

[ttystikk]

yep, that big money sure did buy the black brown and women's vote. You haven't yet explained why white men aren't affected.

Something else I don't understand. Bernie and Hillary spent the same amount. Bernie spent 220 million on his campaign. As of July 1, Clinton spent the same amount. I mean, wow, Bernie spent the same amount but lost by 12% margin. He must have been an awful campaigner. That, or he wasn't very good at running his campaign.

https://www.opensecrets.org/pres16/candidate?id=n00000528
https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/...l-campaign-fundraising/july/public/index.html

Bernie was outspent by 4:1 and came close to the nomination.

Do your own homework.

 

[Fogdog]

Bernie was outspent by 4:1 and came close to the nomination.

Do your own homework.

Nope

They spent the same. about 220 million.
He lost by 12% difference. Not even close.
The only group where he gained a majority vote was white men.
These are facts. I posted links to my sources for the money spent. Do your own fucking homework or read what was spoon fed to you. I don't care.. These are facts that are verifiable and aren't refutable.

From these facts I draw a conclusion that you may refute because reasonable people may disagree even from the same facts..

Bernie wasn't a very good candidate.

 

[ttystikk]

Nope

They spent the same. about 220 million.
He lost by 12% difference. Not even close.
The only group where he gained a majority vote was white men.
These are facts. I posted links to my sources for the money spent. Do your own fucking homework or read what was spoon fed to you. I don't care.. These are facts that are verifiable and aren't refutable.

From these facts I draw a conclusion that you may refute because reasonable people may disagree even from the same facts..

Bernie wasn't a very good candidate.

Lol

If he was such a bad candidate, why is he still the most popular sitting politician in America?

Once again you got your cherry picked facts mixed up with your opinions and the mixture is as appetizing as what the cat threw up.

 

[Fogdog]

Lol

If he was such a bad candidate, why is he still the most popular sitting politician in America?

Once again you got your cherry picked facts mixed up with your opinions and the mixture is as appetizing as what the cat threw up.

You were the one who talked about how big money swung the election. I just pointed out that:

Bernie and Hillary spent the same amount.
Bernie only managed to get the white male majority.

Can you refute these facts?

In light of the fact that Bernie spent the same amount as Hillary, how can you claim that big money swung the election?

 

[schuylaar]

LOL

I know this is very hard for you and all but it's time to accept that the Democratic party's majority did not want Bernie to be their candidate in 2016.

and that's why she cheated because the Democratic party's majority did not want Bernie to be their candidate in 2016.

you see, there is no god, karma or 'what goes around comes around'..there's only the sum total of your actions..plus, i understand Podesta makes a mean risotto.

 

[schuylaar]

Is this where you complain about Democrats in Arizona when the party in power and runs the elections are entirely Republican?

zounds.

Those Republicans sure did fuck up the election.

Clinton won in spite of Republican meddling.

you obvi didn't read the article or the ONE paragraph i chose for you..this was dem PRIMARY and those who were registered as indie and changed to dem before the deadline, weren't.

further, one voter who had been dem since the '80s was now a registered indie.

sad i have to dumb down for you with all those degrees..

 

[schuylaar]

yep, that big money sure did buy the black brown and women's vote. You haven't yet explained why white men aren't affected.

Something else I don't understand. Bernie and Hillary spent the same amount. Bernie spent 220 million on his campaign. As of July 1, Clinton spent the same amount. I mean, wow, Bernie spent the same amount but lost by 12% margin. He must have been an awful campaigner. That, or he wasn't very good at running his campaign.

https://www.opensecrets.org/pres16/candidate?id=n00000528
https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/...l-campaign-fundraising/july/public/index.html

Bernie's dollars were grassroots donors aka citizens who he planned on working for..clinton? not so much. she'd never be able to replicate this little important fact.

 

[schuylaar]

Republicans control the election process in Arizona. It was the governor's appointee (both republicans) who made those decisions about polling places and forcing people to re-register. Explain please how this is Democrats fault.

dem primary?

 

[schuylaar]

You were the one who talked about how big money swung the election. I just pointed out that:

Bernie and Hillary spent the same amount.
Bernie only managed to get the white male majority.

Can you refute these facts?

In light of the fact that Bernie spent the same amount as Hillary, how can you claim that big money swung the election?

2M black populace OBAMA voters stayed home. why?

 

[schuylaar]

You were the one who talked about how big money swung the election. I just pointed out that:

Bernie and Hillary spent the same amount.
Bernie only managed to get the white male majority.

Can you refute these facts?

In light of the fact that Bernie spent the same amount as Hillary, how can you claim that big money swung the election?

that is why based upon crowd size..i find the dem primary outcome, suspect.

 

[rkymtnman]

and that's why she cheated because the Democratic party's majority did not want Bernie to be their candidate in 2016.

the Independent party should have nominated Bernie. oh wait, there isn't a viable one.

 

[Fogdog]

that is why based upon crowd size..i find the dem primary outcome, suspect.

I'm looking forward to your explanation why black people only voted for Bernie at 20%, Hispanic at 30% and women at 45% while only white men voted for Bernie at 60%.

Crowd size? What's your theory about how that indicates rigged?

Don't forget both Bernie and Hillary spent the same amount.

 

[Fogdog]

2M black populace OBAMA voters stayed home. why?

Many probably didn't like either candidate. Many were stopped by voting laws. I think we all can say was much more charismatic as Obama and fair or not, carried less negative baggage. That said, she did as well as her husband did and almost exactly as well as Kerry did. I don't understand what you are trying to say here.

The chart shows Obama did exceptionally well with Black voter turnout. Clinton did average or slightly better than average. It's called regression to the mean.

 

[Fogdog]

Bernie's dollars were grassroots donors aka citizens who he planned on working for..clinton? not so much. she'd never be able to replicate this little important fact.

tty was making a claim that big money made the difference. He also falsely claimed Bernie spent 20% of what Clinton did. Both Clinton and Bernie spent the same. He lost.

I'll give Bernie the moral victory for raising his pile of cash from small donors. He still lost.