The "D" day pool, best guess as to when Trump is out

DIY-HP-LED

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Democratic Rep. Jim Himes: Sam Nunberg Is Just A Distraction | Morning Joe | MSNBC
Intel Committee member Rep. Jim Himes, D-Conn., discusses Sam Nunberg's Monday media appearance, the ongoing Russia investigation and how the Democrats can have a winning message for the midterms.
 

Fogdog

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If you feel this way, then support those who will overturn Citizens United. That alone won't change everything, but not doing it endures nothing else will change.

Trump can't kill America by himself. He needs help.
The last time it came to a vote, every Democratic Senator in 2014 supported Bernie's bill to overturn CU.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Unlike Republicans, Democrats are not monolithic in aspirations, policies and beliefs. It's more like a fight in a family. In spite of what they said prior to Nov 9 and after, about 90% of the people who voted for Bernie, voted for Clinton on Nov 9.

My complaints about berners including tty is that they are constantly recycling right wing propaganda about Democrats as if the party in the minority but represent the majority are somehow to blame for what Republicans do. It's almost as if they are tools of the reactionary right. (Well actually they are tools of the reactionary right.) I think the effect of right wing propaganda about Clinton and now about other Democrats is seen in the disinclination of many to vote. In this way Berners help Republicans by repeating their propaganda.
Bernie fell into line instantly, even though he was treated unfairly by the democrats, he is a patriot and knew what was at stake. Your country needs more than two parties, but for now let the republicans be divided into the GOP and a new conservative party with most of the money.

It's our natural tribalistic response to dissent, when we are psychologically and politically at war. This time around as ziggy famously said, "I have seen the enemy and he is us"! This goes back to spear carrying days and is hardwired in, when the group is under threat social cohesion is more vigorously enforced, in modern times this takes the form of orthodoxies and ideologies. In this case, it's the American tribe against the "white" tribe and as you might imagine it's complicated! The white tribe is now the GOP and Donald is it's chief, he also happens to be the president of the USA, a traitor and the puppet of a hostile foreign power that has thousands of nukes pointed at you, like I said, it's complicated...
 

captainmorgan

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Churchill said the only thing worse than fighting a war with allies, is fighting one without them! Yer all trying to "make a more perfect union", unlike the Trump crowd that is trying to tear the country apart.
It's about priorities, we need to stand together to get rid of tRUmp and his supporters, then we can start to change the system. If tRUmp stays the situation will only get worse.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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It's getting harder for drama shows on TV, since the news has more drama lately and it also has the additional bonus of, ya can't make this shit up! Plus we all got "skin" in the game, namely our pink little hides! When the wheels come off, hopefully yer not going over a cliff.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Gary Cohn just retired

everything trump touches turns to shit and dies...
Paul Ryan seems more concerned with tariffs, than with treason! After more than a year of solid shit, this is what jerks his chain? Don't get me wrong, I'm Canadian and all for stopping economic suicide. Trump should look further north to russia, if he wants to fuck over someone. Perhaps we refused Kushner a "loan" or maybe Justin refused to fuck Ivanka, who the fuck knows with this idiot, might have been instructions from Putin...
 
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DIY-HP-LED

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Gary Cohn just retired

everything trump touches turns to shit and dies...
A good topic for a new thread, "Who replaces Cohn"?

Bill Maher speculated that Jared Kushner was too stupid to be jewish! Gary Cohn leaves no room for speculation, he's smart enough to head out the door at the first opportunity, he got his tax cuts for the rich. He also probably stood up for firmly held economic beliefs, common sense and the fact that this is gonna be an economic kick in the balls for America, it was such a good idea it dropped the stock market 500 points.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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maybe trump should just name putin to his cabinet
The way he's fucking over yer country, he appears to be operating from instructions, if he's not I'd be surprised, there are lots of willing hands on the republican side, but there's a thought out feel to the pillage of your government. Trump never expected to win and had no agenda except a few vague promises to his base, I figure Putin not only gave him an agenda, but picked some of the staff and cabinet for him. Somehow or another Vlad put the fear of Jesus (more likely prison) into Donald.
 

Fogdog

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Bernie fell into line instantly, even though he was treated unfairly by the democrats, he is a patriot and knew what was at stake. Your country needs more than two parties, but for now let the republicans be divided into the GOP and a new conservative party with most of the money.

It's our natural tribalistic response to dissent, when we are psychologically and politically at war. This time around as ziggy famously said, "I have seen the enemy and he is us"! This goes back to spear carrying days and is hardwired in, when the group is under threat social cohesion is more vigorously enforced, in modern times this takes the form of orthodoxies and ideologies. In this case, it's the American tribe against the "white" tribe and as you might imagine it's complicated! The white tribe is now the GOP and Donald is it's chief, he also happens to be the president of the USA, a traitor and the puppet of a hostile foreign power that has thousands of nukes pointed at you, like I said, it's complicated...
Pogo, published on the first designated Earth Day.

What's going on is not tribalism, IMO. It's propaganda and the politics of division. Some people are just more susceptible to it than others. I've been watching our Berners decline ever since Bernie lost. They have become more and more radicalized and nowadays quote recycled right wing shit.

Especially juicy was a post by tty claiming Democrats are at fault for the Republican measure that passed in the Senate today to roll back banking regulations. Textbook fascist propaganda methods on display. Not that tty ever sees it.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Pogo then, or American Navy Commodore Oliver Hazard Perry, good quote.
People take advantage of tribalism through propaganda by using straw man arguments and focusing hatred on the other. It's an old trick to frighten or piss people off to shut down their critical thinking and take advantage of them. I can tolerate differences in ideology, but the enemies of America take advantage of natural differences of opinion that happen among free people. The internet allows them to inject new and amplify existing bullshit that is constantly being generated for profit, it's an old fashioned disinformation/propaganda war.

Tribalism is a primal social survival instinct, we use it ourselves in reaction to Trump (a threat) and band together with other like minded people, we also tend to enforce a certain orthodoxy to maintain social cohesion and group identification. Perfectly natural we're just human, except for Trump, who is damaged and lacks humanity.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Police update on suspected poisoning of former Russian spy

Lest anyone forget who you' re dealing with, Vlad is a nasty piece of work, lots of russians die who cross him, this is how they deal with treason.

Here's CNN's take
https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/07/europe/russian-spy-nerve-agent-intl/index.html

I guess if Vlad starts bumping off Americans in America, Trump won't do anything either, except say how "unfair" it was to blame Vlad. I understand he doesn't like Hillary, maybe she won't come back from one of her walks in the woods. Do you think Trump would do anything about it? Even if they caught the russians who did it, he'd pardon them! Tariffs would cause a bigger stir among the GOP.
 
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Grandpapy

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Let's hope Donald does something to piss Vlad off. I suddenly would find more respect for Vlad
We can piss on his leg.

"On January 4, 2018, the Trump Administration announced its Draft Proposed National Oil and Gas Leasing Program. This proposal lays out a plan to open 90 percent of our nation’s Outer Continental Shelf for potential oil and gas exploration and development, including two oil drilling lease opportunities off of the central coast of California.

If this proposal is enacted, it would have a huge impact on the health of our ocean, our coastal communities, our tourism industry, and our environment. Fortunately, you have the opportunity to share your opinion about this plan.

The Administration is accepting public comments about the proposal through this Friday, March 9, 2018.

Comments can be made through the regulations.gov web portal. Navigate to http://www.regulations.gov and under the Search tab, in the space provided, type in Docket ID: BOEM-2017-0074 to submit comments and to view other comments."

https://panetta.house.gov/public-comment-period-trump-administration-s-offshore-drilling-proposal
 

DIY-HP-LED

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We can piss on his leg.

"On January 4, 2018, the Trump Administration announced its Draft Proposed National Oil and Gas Leasing Program. This proposal lays out a plan to open 90 percent of our nation’s Outer Continental Shelf for potential oil and gas exploration and development, including two oil drilling lease opportunities off of the central coast of California.

If this proposal is enacted, it would have a huge impact on the health of our ocean, our coastal communities, our tourism industry, and our environment. Fortunately, you have the opportunity to share your opinion about this plan.

The Administration is accepting public comments about the proposal through this Friday, March 9, 2018.

Comments can be made through the regulations.gov web portal. Navigate to http://www.regulations.gov and under the Search tab, in the space provided, type in Docket ID: BOEM-2017-0074 to submit comments and to view other comments."

https://panetta.house.gov/public-comment-period-trump-administration-s-offshore-drilling-proposal
I'm afraid the environment is a write off for as long as Trump is in office, getting rid of the GOP will go a long way too, they are only concerned with tariffs.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Let's hope Donald does something to piss Vlad off. I suddenly would find more respect for Vlad
All he would have to do is squeal on Donald, dunno what he has on him, but it must be fantastic, not merely illegal, but disgusting and on video too. He could do Donald by releasing certain information, Mueller must have an idea of what it is, he'll definitely want to know and so does America! Mueller has a well thought out plan conceived and constantly adjusted by experts and they're playing Donald like a fish on the end of a line. He is being stripped of support and advisors and he probably figures that most of the people he's talking to are wired, all will talk to Mueller under oath. Reality is closing in on Donald and he's squirming bigly, soon he will come up against things he can't bullshit his way through. He's gonna do some damage while he's thrashing around too.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Does anybody think that Donald told Mitch and Paul he wants the Mueller investigation killed? The house is sabotaged and the senate appears to be going nowhere, that's just politics though. I wonder if Mueller would interview Mitch and Paul? You just know that Trump didn't get a yes Mr. President, when he was pumping them to see if he could get away with firing people.

If you think Donald had a big hair up his ass last week end, wait till the heat is dialed up bigly!
 
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