my LED lights cannot run with a timer - help !

coreywebster

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hi guys, just bought 2x600 LEDs from

( https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VIPARSPECTRA-600W-LED-Grow-Light-12-Band-Full-Spectrum-with-VEG-BLOOM-Switches/191837610562?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649 )

no function to fit timer, so what can i do ?

whats light cycle in both veg & bloom .....suppose i will need to set manually but that will be one pain in the ass alsong with watering times etc etc etc
Not sure if you need surge protection on timers for lights like that. Possibly you could just try a segmental timer for about £3 from wilkos. I still use contactor timers from my HPS days. If you need them then this will do the job.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/L-K-Plug-in-Grow-Heavy-Duty-up-to-2-x-600w-Grow-Light-Timer-Relay-Contactor/280841860077?epid=1625028903&hash=item41637ab3ed:g:RiQAAOSwPe1UEfFs

Just be warned cheap LEDs are not amazing, make sure you pay attention to the real wattage and bare it in mind when it comes to how much space your going to light up. Lighting up a space based on what that light claims it can do will only lead to disappointment.

Welcome to RIU
 

skorpio777

Member
Not sure if you need surge protection on timers for lights like that. Possibly you could just try a segmental timer for about £3 from wilkos. I still use contactor timers from my HPS days. If you need them then this will do the job.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/L-K-Plug-in-Grow-Heavy-Duty-up-to-2-x-600w-Grow-Light-Timer-Relay-Contactor/280841860077?epid=1625028903&hash=item41637ab3ed:g:RiQAAOSwPe1UEfFs

Just be warned cheap LEDs are not amazing, make sure you pay attention to the real wattage and bare it in mind when it comes to how much space your going to light up. Lighting up a space based on what that light claims it can do will only lead to disappointment.

Welcome to RIU
thanks but im following a diary on 420uk about a guy named " bazzo " started growing under viperspectre 600 w leds like mine , he is now on his 2nd grow and doing very very well indeed .
 

skorpio777

Member
thanks but im following a diary on 420uk about a guy named " bazzo " started growing under viperspectre 600 w leds like mine , he is now on his 2nd grow and doing very very well indeed .
can you recommend an led light ? maybe a COB or even a viperspectre 600w PAR

cheers
 

coreywebster

Well-Known Member
thanks but im following a diary on 420uk about a guy named " bazzo " started growing under viperspectre 600 w leds like mine , he is now on his 2nd grow and doing very very well indeed .
Cool.
Would be impossible to recommend an LED at that sort of price point.

I would always recommend in this order.
Quantum boards.
DIY COBs
CMHs

For the price of cheaper LEDs then HPS/MH.
Cheap LEDs will grow weed, just a case of having enough light and not getting carried away with the marketing some of these companies put out. (like for example "this 130w light will cover a 4x4 area and replace a 600w HPS)
:bigjoint:
 

skorpio777

Member
Cool.
Would be impossible to recommend an LED at that sort of price point.

I would always recommend in this order.
Quantum boards.
DIY COBs
CMHs

For the price of cheaper LEDs then HPS/MH.
Cheap LEDs will grow weed, just a case of having enough light and not getting carried away with the marketing some of these companies put out. (like for example "this 130w light will cover a 4x4 area and replace a 600w HPS)
:bigjoint:
hi
there is a link to bazzo diary below ...growing with viperspectre LED 66w :
( http://www.uk420.com/boards/index.php?/topic/383522-newbie-gone-in-at-the-deep-end/ )

i may fork out and go with COB , what standard or type of COB would be good for me im in 1.5 x 1.5 tent growing in a wilma 10 pot hydro drip system, i may also throw another 6-8 plants into this tent besides my wilma.

thanks
 

coreywebster

Well-Known Member
hi
there is a link to bazzo diary below ...growing with viperspectre LED 66w :
( http://www.uk420.com/boards/index.php?/topic/383522-newbie-gone-in-at-the-deep-end/ )

i may fork out and go with COB , what standard or type of COB would be good for me im in 1.5 x 1.5 tent growing in a wilma 10 pot hydro drip system, i may also throw another 6-8 plants into this tent besides my wilma.

thanks
Cheers, I'm gonna check out that link now..

With a 1.5m x 1.5m tent its going to look damn expensive even to build your own COB in comparison to what you will have payed for those vipars. The difference however would be like chalk and cheese.
Them vipars only run at 269 real watts per light. Which is probably good enough to light 6 square foot and your looking at 25 square foot in your tent.
You want to be looking at COBs like cxb3590s, citizen 1818, cxm22 or vero29s .
But to be honest as far as value and simplicity goes (since not everyone wants to jump straight into building a light) google Horticultural lighting groups HLG 600, that will light up a 5x5 tent really well.

Just to give you a rough idea, my COB light, which I built probably cost me around £450 for around 700 real watts in half my 8x4 and puts out the similar to 1000w HPS. In the other half of my 8x4 I run Quantum boards, which are even more efficient and I run about 570w on that side, they cost me £400, again produce around the same light as 1000w HPS.

You would probably need 4 of those vipars to do the same job as a HLG 600. In the end the total price would be about the same but the power consumption on the vipars would be higher and the performance not as good.

Please though, don't take my word on it, have a look at what most of the folks growing quality with LEDs are using.
Plenty to look at on here. Check out growmau5 and greengenes on youtube to see some live action with solid grow diaries too.
 

Ryante55

Well-Known Member
hi guys, just bought 2x600 LEDs from

( https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VIPARSPECTRA-600W-LED-Grow-Light-12-Band-Full-Spectrum-with-VEG-BLOOM-Switches/191837610562?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649 )

no function to fit timer, so what can i do ?

whats light cycle in both veg & bloom .....suppose i will need to set manually but that will be one pain in the ass alsong with watering times etc etc etc
If you can't figure out how to use a timer do alot more research before you start growing.
 

skorpio777

Member
Cheers, I'm gonna check out that link now..

With a 1.5m x 1.5m tent its going to look damn expensive even to build your own COB in comparison to what you will have payed for those vipars. The difference however would be like chalk and cheese.
Them vipars only run at 269 real watts per light. Which is probably good enough to light 6 square foot and your looking at 25 square foot in your tent.
You want to be looking at COBs like cxb3590s, citizen 1818, cxm22 or vero29s .
But to be honest as far as value and simplicity goes (since not everyone wants to jump straight into building a light) google Horticultural lighting groups HLG 600, that will light up a 5x5 tent really well.

Just to give you a rough idea, my COB light, which I built probably cost me around £450 for around 700 real watts in half my 8x4 and puts out the similar to 1000w HPS. In the other half of my 8x4 I run Quantum boards, which are even more efficient and I run about 570w on that side, they cost me £400, again produce around the same light as 1000w HPS.

You would probably need 4 of those vipars to do the same job as a HLG 600. In the end the total price would be about the same but the power consumption on the vipars would be higher and the performance not as good.

Please though, don't take my word on it, have a look at what most of the folks growing quality with LEDs are using.
Plenty to look at on here. Check out growmau5 and greengenes on youtube to see some live action with solid grow diaries too.

thanks mate,,,,great info !!
 

skorpio777

Member
thanks mate,,,,great info !!
i have 2 x 600 watt vipars
im sending them back this week
so....need decide on what to go with in my 1.5 x1.5 M

might just bin the led and go for a more simple HPS ....sick of wasting time and money and making the wrong decisions as im in a rush to get started ( newbie )

thanks guys
 
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