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abandonconflict

abandonconflict

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Rob Roy said:
You say I don't understand the tenets of my philosophy, yet you're the one claiming that a system of hierarchy can be abolished, by establishing a system of hierarchy
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No, capitalism is a system of hierarchy that was established over another system of hierarchy.
Rob Roy said:
I believe human interactions should begin on a mutual and consensual basis, is that what you believe or not ?
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But you consider is an act of aggression if a black person buys something.
Rob Roy said:
As far as self ownership goes
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Nobody cares what an ancap thinks about how humans are property.
Rob Roy said:
As far as property goes... bla bla bla...

That begs the question, what IS property and who can own it?
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There are dictionaries for this. Property rights come from the gov't, so maybe in addition to a dictionary, you should check out some legal texts.

You're boring, and this debate has happened too many times. I already know all of your stupid cliches.
 
abandonconflict

abandonconflict

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Rob Roy said:
No, I stole it from an Anarcho Communist.
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You seem so fixated on this word as if you're desperate to call me one because you think everyone will be shocked to see those words together.

Anarchism doesn't need to be hyphenated. You're not an anarchist though, you're a capitalist.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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abandonconflict said:
No, capitalism is a system of hierarchy that was established over another system of hierarchy.

But you consider is an act of aggression if a black person buys something.

Nobody cares what an ancap thinks about how humans are property.

There are dictionaries for this. Property rights come from the gov't, so maybe in addition to a dictionary, you should check out some legal texts.

You're boring, and this debate has happened too many times. I already know all of your stupid cliches.
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I'm a proponent of a free market, wherein you make an exchange with another person on a mutually agreeable basis or the exchange doesn't happen. Which part of that do you find disagreeable?

I don't consider a black person buying something aggression. I consider any person forcing another neutral person to interact with them as aggression. I don't have the right to make two people engage in a trade or an interaction when one party would prefer not to. Neither do you. Which part of that do you find unacceptable?

I'm a Voluntaryist, we, like Ancaps, also grow better beards than Commies like you.

Declaring something as boring, is one of your favorite ploys to avoid addressing your contradictions or questions. The debate has never really happened, it always stalls when you either conflate my position or run away stroking your feeble neck beard nervously waiting by the mailbox for your government check, "Anarchist" .
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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abandonconflict said:
You seem so fixated on this word as if you're desperate to call me one because you think everyone will be shocked to see those words together.

Anarchism doesn't need to be hyphenated. You're not an anarchist though, you're a capitalist.
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Thank you for pointing that out. Clearly that point is pertinent to this discussion and bringing that up means you won.
I will send you a gift certificate for a beard implant as your prize.
 
abandonconflict

abandonconflict

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Rob Roy said:
I'm a proponent of a free market, wherein you make an exchange with another person on a mutually agreeable basis or the exchange doesn't happen.
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Free-market is an oxymoron. Besides, that's never been how capitalism has ever worked. Privatization is only possible through gov't. If you disagree, why don't you give your land back to the descendants of its original inhabitants which were all murdered by the gov't in order that you could be granted exclusive deed by the same gov't?
Rob Roy said:
I consider any person forcing another neutral person to interact with them as aggression.
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Nice word salad. So you're saying that if the gov't didn't "force" honkies to sell stuff to black people, that they wouldn't. Some "free-market" you have there...
Rob Roy said:
Declaring something as boring, is one of your favorite ploys to avoid addressing your contradictions or questions.
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No, I destroy your arguments, and then point out that it is boring.
Rob Roy said:
your government check
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I have not collected VA disability for a few years. That's how long you've been repeating this nonsense. Boring.

Then again, in the time you've wasted here being an ancap, some 13 year old children that you likely sought to prowl upon have reached the legal age.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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abandonconflict said:
Free-market is an oxymoron. Besides, that's never been how capitalism has ever worked. Privatization is only possible through gov't. If you disagree, why don't you give your land back to the descendants of its original inhabitants which were all murdered by the gov't in order that you could be granted exclusive deed by the same gov't?

Nice word salad. So you're saying that if the gov't didn't "force" honkies to sell stuff to black people, that they wouldn't. Some "free-market" you have there...

No, I destroy your arguments, and then point out that it is boring.

I have not collected VA disability for a few years. That's how long you've been repeating this nonsense. Boring.

Then again, in the time you've wasted here being an ancap, some 13 year old children that you likely sought to prowl upon have reached the legal age.
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You have a lousy beard and want to buy my book on how to grow a manly beard. We mutually agree to an exchange and consummate the deal. Your lousy beard flourishes and I go buy a cheeseburger with the money you gave me, we're both happy about the exchange. That's a free market transaction. It didn't require government or any other third parties to direct our mutual interaction either.

What do you find wrong with mutual consent being part of market interactions? It seems like you are trying hard to get me to defend crony capitalism, when I have no interest in doing so. Nice try.

People who claim to be "government" should not be exempt from morality you and I should be held to. If I don't have the right to force a person to interact with me and you don't have that right, no other person or group of people has that right either, regardless of any claim they make. Has nothing to do with race, since people of every race have the right to refuse an interaction they prefer not to have.

You don't destroy my arguments, you conflate them and wrestle the strawman.

I'm glad you no longer accept stolen money. Good on you.

I don't seek 13 year old children, I'm in a happy monogamous relationship with a person likely the age of your mom. When I was 13, I did consent to sex with a girl older than me though, had she not been a teen and had been 20 years old or 25 years old and willing, I'd have still boned the hell out of her.

Have a good day sir.
 
abandonconflict

abandonconflict

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Rob Roy said:
You have a lousy beard and some nonsense about a book
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I actually shave regularly so I wouldn't know. I dislike facial hair and I work a lot. I'm guessing you have never held a profession. You say you wrote a book on beards, which is an even more boring subject than your ancap philosophy of enabling pedophilia and racism. I don't know, I'm going to guess that nobody will ever read it, just like nobody reads your drivel here.
 
Unclebaldrick

Unclebaldrick

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abandonconflict said:
No, capitalism is a system of hierarchy that was established over another system of hierarchy.

But you consider is an act of aggression if a black person buys something.

Nobody cares what an ancap thinks about how humans are property.

There are dictionaries for this. Property rights come from the gov't, so maybe in addition to a dictionary, you should check out some legal texts.

You're boring, and this debate has happened too many times. I already know all of your stupid cliches.
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Very boring. Very, very boring. So boring it nearly needs a new word to describe his boringness.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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UncleBuck said:
you said the same thing when you described an old man paying a small child for sex.
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Yes and you were the small child in the hypothetical bad man scenario, Poopy Pants. It was to bust your tiny balls, for failing to acknowledge in a more serious discussion what consent is and isn't, apparently it worked.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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abandonconflict said:
I actually shave regularly so I wouldn't know. I dislike facial hair and I work a lot. I'm guessing you have never held a profession. You say you wrote a book on beards, which is an even more boring subject than your ancap philosophy of enabling pedophilia and racism. I don't know, I'm going to guess that nobody will ever read it, just like nobody reads your drivel here.
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