Rob Porter..

[abandonconflict]

TL/DR

Nah, you read it, you're just at a loss for words.

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Rawn Pawl never had a chance, too racist.

 

[Rob Roy]

Nah, you read it, you're just at a loss for words.

Rawn Pawl never had a chance, too racist.

Not really at a loss for words, just grinning at your strawman jousting, "Anarchist".

I'm a Voluntaryist. Which part of that philosophy do you disagree with?


Ron Paul would have ended the USA's empire and foreign occupation, so there's a good chance he'd have been bumped off had he ever become President. I voted for him in 2008, but gave up that nasty voting habit since. I burped on his kid Rand one time at a Political rally, but that's another story.

Did Jill Stein send you your money back or at least maybe a signed nude photo for you to stain up and keep under the mattress in your cave down in your mom's basement?

 

[abandonconflict]

I'm a Voluntaryist.

Yes, we all know you're an ancap. Every single person who has interacted with you is aware of your self identification as a neofeudalist. You don't have to keep reminding us that you believe children can consent to copulate with adults.

 

[SneekyNinja]

Yes, we all know you're an ancap. Every single person who has interacted with you is aware of your self identification as a neofeudalist. You don't have to keep reminding us that you believe children can consent to copulate with adults.

Dude this is weak, it's not even trolling, it's beating a dead straw-horse with a stick.

His philosophy is completely laughable and it was fun to fuck around with him for a while but really?

He's given no indication he personally is a pedophile or a racist, his philosophy just unwisely and I'd suspect unintentionally lacks protections against them.

 

[Rob Roy]

Yes, we all know you're an ancap. Every single person who has interacted with you is aware of your self identification as a neofeudalist. You don't have to keep reminding us that you believe children can consent to copulate with adults.

Did it hurt when Jill boned you up the ass. "Anarchist" ?


Besides, I'm more comfortable defining myself as a Voluntaryist.

Only people who have the wherewithal to consent and that actually do, as individuals, consent, can consent. If you'd like to argue, refute that statement. Can you? Go ahead, flash that brilliant intellect you've honed by hiding in your mom's basement buried under a pile of books which have lots of big words.

If you agree with it, then why do you embrace philosophical and political stances which disagree with it?

 

[Rob Roy]

Dude this is weak, it's not even trolling, it's beating a dead straw-horse with a stick.

His philosophy is completely laughable and it was fun to fuck around with him for a while but really?

He's given no indication he personally is a pedophile or a racist, his philosophy just unwisely and I'd suspect unintentionally lacks protections against them.

I appreciate some of your even handed and well intentioned commentary, while maintaining disagreement in our views.

 

[Rob Roy]

In other words, a few of the children he makes sexual advances towards say no, which makes what he tries to do an aggravated assault / attempted rape rather than simple sex with a minor, so he wants all those laws done away with.

Makes sense if you're him.

That's quite a pile of dung you've excreted there sir.

 

[TacoMac]

He's given no indication he personally is a pedophile...

Other than constantly discussing children and being of the opinion that there should be absolutely ZERO laws to protect them from sexual predators because "some of them", according to him, can make educated decisions about having sex with adults?

You're really going to take that position?

 

[Rob Roy]

Other than constantly discussing children and being of the opinion that there should be absolutely ZERO laws to protect them from sexual predators because "some of them", according to him, can make educated decisions about having sex with adults?

You're really going to take that position?

I do not constantly discuss children. I attempt to discuss what consent is or isn't in a generic sense.

I do not think a central authority, which claims its authority without consideration of the consent of the people it rules over, is a good arbiter for justice. (Sorry if you have trouble comprehending that, it may require knowledge and extrapolative thinking above your ability) That doesn't mean I think people who molest children should not be dealt with.

I'm going to take the position that you own yourself, but you don't own other people. If we are in disagreement there, please present your well thought out and on topic argument, so I can amuse myself. Thank you.

 

[abandonconflict]

Did it hurt when Jill boned you up the ass. "Anarchist" ?

Oh cool, homophobia from the guy who I keep hearing is some kind of pedo.

I do not think a central authority, which claims its authority without consideration of the consent of the people it rules over, is a good arbiter for justice.

That is not consistent with your preference for privatization. In fact, by putting up a boundary around the land that the gov't has awarded you exclusive deed and threatening to defend it by force, you are not only a beneficiary of gov't enforced privatization, you're an accomplice to it, while you also support it with your tax dollars. That you're aware of the lack of justice only makes you the more guilty of it, statist.

That doesn't mean I think people who molest children should not be dealt with.

Yet you constantly advocate that children can consent to copulate.

I'm going to take the position that you own yourself, but you don't own other people. If we are in disagreement there, please present your well thought and on topic argument, so I can amuse myself. Thank you.

Humans are not property. Property can be transferred. In fact, that is something governments used to do.

Dude this is weak, it's not even trolling, it's beating a dead straw-horse with a stick.

His philosophy is completely laughable and it was fun to fuck around with him for a while but really?

He's given no indication he personally is a pedophile or a racist, his philosophy just unwisely and I'd suspect unintentionally lacks protections against them.

It's not unintentional. Here is quoted Murray Rothbard, the godfather of anarchocapitalism:

We have now established each man's property right in his own person and in the virgin land that he finds and transforms by his labor, and we have shown that from these two principles we can deduce the entire structure of property rights in all types of goods. These include the goods which he acquires in exchange or as a result of a voluntary gift or bequest.

There remains, however, the difficult case of children. The right of self-ownership by each man has been established for adults, for natural self-owners who must use their minds to select and pursue their ends. On the other hand, it is clear that a newborn babe is in no natural sense an existing self-owner, but rather a potential self-owner. But this poses a difficult problem: for when, or in what way, does a growing child acquire his natural right to liberty and self-ownership?

https://mises.org/library/children-and-rights

No really, I dare you to read all that shit to see how far it goes. This guy has been around here for years insisting that children can in fact consent to copulate. I see you trying to be objective and give people a chance, but this has been going for a while. I have had him on ignore most of the time you've been posting here.

 

[TacoMac]

I see you trying to be objective and give people a chance...

Precisely. And I can appreciate him playing Devil's advocate, so to speak...but it's very ill founded in this case.

 

[Rob Roy]

Oh cool, homophobia from the guy who I keep hearing is some kind of pedo.

That is not consistent with your preference for privatization. In fact, by putting up a boundary around the land that the gov't has awarded you exclusive deed and threatening to defend it by force, you are not only a beneficiary of gov't enforced privatization, you're an accomplice to it, while you also support it with your tax dollars. That you're aware of the lack of justice only makes you the more guilty of it, statist.

Yet you constantly advocate that children can consent to copulate.

Humans are not property. Property can be transferred. In fact, that is something governments used to do.

It's not unintentional. Here is quoted Murray Rothbard, the godfather of anarchocapitalism:

https://mises.org/library/children-and-rights

No really, I dare you to read all that shit to see how far it goes. This guy has been around here for years insisting that children can in fact consent to copulate. I see you trying to be objective and give people a chance, but this has been going for a while. I have had him on ignore most of the time you've been posting here.

Not homophobic, not even close. Nice try.

I advocate that only people who possess the wherewithal to consent, and do consent, have consented. Can you refute that ? I haven't seen your argument, but I've seen a lot of diversion and insinuations designed to malign me rather than addressing the contradictions which lay so close to the surface of your fake Anarchism, which is dependent on an imposed hierarchy.

We agree, humans are not property in the sense that others can or should own them. All people should own themselves, but not others. Which under your philosophy of fake Anarchism is impossible. In my "utopia" you and Jill Stein would not be free to use other persons money without their consent. That's theft isn't it ? What would make it "not theft" ?

 

[UncleBuck]

I've seen a lot of diversion and insinuations designed to malign me

you do that to yourself when you call a black person shopping "offensive force" and a white kicking them out of the store "defensive force" and advocating for racial segregation signs and saying small children can have sex with adults you sick fuck.

 

[abandonconflict]

I advocate that only people who possess the wherewithal to consent, and do consent, have consented.

You literally just said absolutely nothing.

I haven't seen your argument

Yeah, you have. You just have those blinders. You purposely ignore shit all the time. there was a tldr, there was a "but you mischaracterize me" and other bullshit deflections.

fake Anarchism

Says the ancap lol

imposed hierarchy

Actually, it's the natural order, at least according to the guy who was one of the first to use the term in modern times when he wrote Mutual Aid: A Factor in Evolution.

We agree

No we don't.

humans are not property in the sense that others can or should own them. All people should own themselves, but not others.

Humans are not property. I do not OWN myself, I AM myself. You might be property though, cause you're getting owned.

Which under your philosophy of fake Anarchism is impossible.

Says the ancap lol.

In my "utopia"

Nobody cares about how things work in your mom's basement, ya pedo.

 

[Rob Roy]

you do that to yourself when you call a black person shopping "offensive force" and a white kicking them out of the store "defensive force" and advocating for racial segregation signs and saying small children can have sex with adults you sick fuck.

Emotionally we probably share similar feelings about racism. However simply because I may not like a racists thoughts, my feelings do not trump the racists right to control his OWN body and his OWN property.

What you are saying is, you believe you have the right to determine the use of another persons body and property, which given the context of the conversation and your constant prattling on about "racists!!" is funny and ironic.

I'm not going to bother to respond to your kiddie diddling innuendo, since it began as you running away from a generic conversation about consent, but you already know that, Poopy Pants.

 

[Rob Roy]

You literally just said absolutely nothing.

Yeah, you have. You just have those blinders. You purposely ignore shit all the time. there was a tldr, there was a "but you mischaracterize me" and other bullshit deflections.

Says the ancap lol

Actually, it's the natural order, at least according to the guy who was one of the first to use the term in modern times when he wrote Mutual Aid: A Factor in Evolution.

No we don't.

Humans are not property. I do not OWN myself, I AM myself. You might be property though, cause you're getting owned.

Says the ancap lol.

Nobody cares about how things work in your mom's basement, ya pedo.

Humans are not property in the sense you convey and that I convey, in that they cannot / should not be owned by others. See, we DO agree. How we get there might be where we disagree.

Yes, but in any kind of a just world, the thing that humans possess, is a kind of proprietary interest in themselves, a kind of "property right" in that they have jurisdiction over themselves.

Obviously you are focusing on semantics here to avoid the obvious. .. Jill Steins jizz is flowing from your ass, while she counts her money. So have you grown up and ceased calling yourself an Anarcho Commie or are you still advocating two opposing things at once, where you use a central authority to abolish the existence of a central authority, Comrade ?

 

[Rob Roy]

no, i've seen you repeatedly try to degrade our first black president with racial slurs you piece of shit.



it started with you saying an old man could pay children for sex you fucking idiot. then you doubled down and refused to state that 13 year olds can't consent to sex with adults you fucking pedophile garbage.

I don't like Obama. His mixed race has nothing to do with it though, it's more his embracing threats of violence and his blatant hypocrisy. Not to mention he was the front man for a criminal gang.

Consent ? Oh yes, I remember, you were running away from questions again and I chided you about a hypothetical "bad man" . Was he the guy that caused your incontinence to continue into your late teens, causing you to suffer bouts of projectile semi liquid shitting on rest room floors or were you just trying to impress your friends with your disrespect for other peoples property which you seem to carry with you today ?

You reveal that disrespect when you would use force to make a black man serve a white man against his will, even while the black guy remains on his own property, just wanting to be left alone. Sad, Poopy Pants, sad.

 

[SneekyNinja]

Other than constantly discussing children and being of the opinion that there should be absolutely ZERO laws to protect them from sexual predators because "some of them", according to him, can make educated decisions about having sex with adults?

You're really going to take that position?

I see his position far more abstractly as being he just wants to be left completely the fuck alone, and wants everyone else to leave everyone else alone too.

I disagree fundamentally with his philosophy, I think it's beyond the bounds of rationality, but it's an intellectually dishonest stretch to continue the whole "pedophile/racist" thing, was funny for a while but it's been happening since long before I even joined (or so I was told last night).

Shout down the actual racists if that's what you think is a productive use of your time, but this just seems like an attempt at bullying away a person who's politics you disagree with, if it's been that persistent for so long.

(Decided to try do more actual debating on here with less pure shitposting)

 

[Rob Roy]

then explain these quotes where you explicitly bring up his mixed race using racial slurs to degrade our first black president, shithead racist.



^^^^^you were jumping in to defend a racist birther conspiracy theorist there, racist fuck



more racial slurs from you



more racial slurs from you

you're a disgusting racist fucking loser

Not even close sir. I raised the idea that some people vote with a preference for a surface thing, such as race or color while disregarding the ideas being expounded upon. You've come up, empty, again. In 2008 if Ron Paul had been green, black or zebra striped I'd have embraced his ideas of more freedom, less government.

Now about WHY you would force a black man to use his own property and body to serve a white man against the black guys will....would you please consider not enslaving black people and forcing your ideas on them? Please?

 

[Rob Roy]

I see his position far more abstractly as being he just wants to be left completely the fuck alone, and wants everyone else to leave everyone else alone too.

I disagree fundamentally with his philosophy, I think it's beyond the bounds of rationality, but it's an intellectually dishonest stretch to continue the whole "pedophile/racist" thing, was funny for a while but it's been happening since long before I even joined (or so I was told last night).

Shout down the actual racists if that's what you think is a productive use of your time, but this just seems like an attempt at bullying away a person who's politics you disagree with, if it's been that persistent for so long.

(Decided to try do more actual debating on here with less pure shitposting)

That's a reasonable post. I appreciate your candor.