Rob Porter..

[abandonconflict]

we certainly don't want facts to get in the way of no citation.

You want a citation that children don't have the wherewithal to consent to sex? I mean I heard about you with mr Hot-tub and dog kennel but this is really going too far, even for you, Flapjacks.

 

[SneekyNinja]

bla bla bla, good for you...

Surely you can't dislike anything he wrote in that post?

His political views are totally weird but there used to be a time in this country when we could all disagree on politics but still get along.

 

[UncleBuck]

Surely you can't dislike anything he wrote in that post?

His political views are totally weird but there used to be a time in this country when we could all disagree on politics but still get along.

he's a white supremacist and pedophile.

he should be shunned.

 

[abandonconflict]

he's a white supremacist and pedophile.

he should be shunned.

As if that wasn't bad enough, he's been posting shit tier memes and saying basically the same thing on repeat for the better part of a decade here.

 

[SneekyNinja]

As if that wasn't bad enough, he's been posting shit tier memes and saying basically the same thing on repeat for the better part of a decade here.

He's been guilty of the shit memes, but let's face it, was funny for a while but the pedophile/racist strawman was a bit of a stretch from the start.

 

[SunnyJim]

not for nothing..and i do like your posts..but i can't find anything regarding pedophilia and @robroy saying he is one. would you mind citing one? bucky and his friends tend to twist words around and we shouldn't call someone, something, they're not. it's in poor taste.

I don't think I've called Rob Roy a pedophile. What he does believe, and there are examples in this very thread, is that a child can (and should be able to) give consent to engaging in sexual activity with an adult [without fearing punishment from 'government'].

What he repeatedly fails to acknowledge is the inability of a child to risk-asses, or to fully appreciate long-term consequences of his/her decisions. This is why we have child protection laws; safeguards to prevent the injury of a child, both physical and emotional, by predatory adults.

Rob Roy doesn't believe that all children risk-assess at the same rate, therefore there shouldn't be laws protecting children of any age, and all children should be 'free' to consent to anything with whomever they choose. It's then an extremely short leap to endorsing grooming practices..

 

[TacoMac]

Rob Roy doesn't believe that all children risk-assess at the same rate, therefore there shouldn't be laws protecting children of any age

In other words, a few of the children he makes sexual advances towards say no, which makes what he tries to do an aggravated assault / attempted rape rather than simple sex with a minor, so he wants all those laws done away with.

Makes sense if you're him.

 

[schuylaar]

I don't think I've called Rob Roy a pedophile. What he does believe, and there are examples in this very thread, is that a child can (and should be able to) give consent to engaging in sexual activity with an adult [without fearing punishment from 'government'].

What he repeatedly fails to acknowledge is the inability of a child to risk-asses, or to fully appreciate long-term consequences of his/her decisions. This is why we have child protection laws; safeguards to prevent the injury of a child, both physical and emotional, by predatory adults.

Rob Roy doesn't believe that all children risk-assess at the same rate, therefore there shouldn't be laws protecting children of any age, and all children should be 'free' to consent to anything with whomever they choose. It's then an extremely short leap to endorsing grooming practices..

i think @robroy is just playing you guys..

 

[abandonconflict]

He's been guilty of the shit memes, but let's face it, was funny for a while but the pedophile/racist strawman was a bit of a stretch from the start.

It started a long time ago, like several years and I didn't go as far as Chesus did but I don't think you were around when it actually started. There was some really ardent defense of some arguments about 13 year old children being able to consent. People in the military get their laptops confiscated for saying less.

 

[Rob Roy]

he's a white supremacist and pedophile.

he should be shunned.

Coming from a guy that reneged on a Hillary presidency bet, that doesn't carry a lot of credibility weight.

 

[Rob Roy]

Other way around. At the conclusion of my argument, to which you have not responded sufficiently and which has already been prevalent, I asked that you come with something new. The insults are just for my enjoyment. Your little emotional appeal even demonstrated that you didn't grasp it.

You're boring and not as smart as you think. In fact, your "philosophy" was designed by the very corporatists you claim to oppose, and it was designed to appeal to stupid people. Have fun getting 'likes' from Schuylaar.

So, you think that individuals that define as Voluntaryists are corporate minions? That's sort of a big fat lie, but I understand when your arguments are flaccid, lying and diversion is your next best option.

And you make that corporate claim with a straight face, all the while you claim to be an Anarchist, who implores people to vote for Jill Stein and advocates for a central authority which will give you money because you were once obedient cannon fodder. Which part of the foregoing statement is inaccurate genius?

Yes, I can see you are "highly educated" Smirk.

 

[Rob Roy]

It started a long time ago, like several years and I didn't go as far as Chesus did but I don't think you were around when it actually started. There was some really ardent defense of some arguments about 13 year old children being able to consent. People in the military get their laptops confiscated for saying less.

It started when Uncle Buck was losing a debate and ran from a simple truth that consent is an individual thing and isn't something other people can give for you against your wishes. It doesn't bother me that your crew has fucked with me about it either, since it reveals your inability to focus on what consent is, in a generic sense, because to do so, would expose the inconsistencies in your respective political or philosophic views.

As far as an ardent defense about what consent is or isn't, you've never offered your opinion of what consent is, in a generic sense or otherwise. That's because you seem afraid to commit to defending your idea that Anarcho Communism isn't really Anarcho anything and instead can't exist without a central authority. If it doesn't have a central authority aspect, are you saying it is a voluntary concept ?

As far as the 13 year old thing, I had sex then and enjoyed it. I consented to it too. Not counting household pets and barn yard animals about many times did you have sex as a teenager ?

 

[Rob Roy]

This crap. So now you're opposed to privatization? You're incoherent. You literally repeat communism several times and then say I am getting your stance wrong? You are terrible at this. You really have never read anything worth while. You can't even meme. I gave you the benefit of the doubt and took you off of ignore, thinking you could present a worthwhile thought. You deserve every insult directed your way. You offer absolutely nothing to a discussion about ideas or realpolitik. You are a waste of time. When I said you were consistent, it wasn't a compliment.

You have stated before that you think a 13 year old can consent. You refuse repeatedly to answer this directly, hence so many people calling you a pedo.

I'm opposed to human interactions beginning on an involuntary basis. Why aren't you?

What is property and who can own it? Can you offer a worthwhile thought on this subject?

 

[Rob Roy]

I don't think I've called Rob Roy a pedophile. What he does believe, and there are examples in this very thread, is that a child can (and should be able to) give consent to engaging in sexual activity with an adult [without fearing punishment from 'government'].

What he repeatedly fails to acknowledge is the inability of a child to risk-asses, or to fully appreciate long-term consequences of his/her decisions. This is why we have child protection laws; safeguards to prevent the injury of a child, both physical and emotional, by predatory adults.

Rob Roy doesn't believe that all children risk-assess at the same rate, therefore there shouldn't be laws protecting children of any age, and all children should be 'free' to consent to anything with whomever they choose. It's then an extremely short leap to endorsing grooming practices..

Thank you for offering your opinion of what you think I believe.

Now I'll simplify it for you, I believe human interactions should not begin on an involuntary basis, wherein one party initiates aggression against another who is being neutral / peaceful. People have the right of self determination over themselves and their justly acquired property, but not over others who do not consent to the interaction.

Could you tell me if you agree with that or which part of that belief you find offensive?

 

[schuylaar]

It started a long time ago, like several years and I didn't go as far as Chesus did but I don't think you were around when it actually started. There was some really ardent defense of some arguments about 13 year old children being able to consent. People in the military get their laptops confiscated for saying less.

how would that be possible since Stinky's only been here since July 2016?..surely you're not suggesting he's a sock? someone who got a swift boot in the ass out of RIU? someone who doesn't get he's NOT wanted?

because, that's what the boot means..

 

[abandonconflict]

So, you think that individuals that define as Voluntaryists are corporate minions?

No. Learn to read. I said your "philosophy" of anarchocapitalism was created by that sort of people, namely Murray Rothbard. He was well aware that anarchism was a leftwing philosophy when he attempted to appropriate the word, along with the word 'libertarian' into rightwing ideology.

Anyway, nice work completely dodging the arguments so that you could yet again repeat "what is property" as if it hasn't been answered 50 thousand times. So there it is, the guy who always repeats, "muh consent" doesn't know what consent is. The guy who always repeats "muh property" has just admitted to not knowing what property is. The guy who calls himself an anarchist has never read a book written by an anarchist.

Last but not least, I'm not here to theorize utopian ideas with a repetitive and boring fool. You have not responded to those arguments, you have dodged them. You claim to live by a philosophy of voluntary interaction, yet you harass me with questions I have answered, even though I have told you that they bore me and that I do not wish to engage further if you are unable to argue the very ideas you have begun to argue about. You say I "run from questions" but you have gone several pages in this thread without responding to the arguments you demanded.

If you're going to waste my time, I won't give it to you. That's as nice as I can possibly be.

 

[abandonconflict]

how would that be possible since Stinky's only been here since July 2016?..surely you're not suggesting he's a sock? someone who got a swift boot in the ass out of RIU? someone who doesn't get he's NOT wanted?

because, that's what the boot means..

You have admitted to using sock puppet accounts. I'm not even sure why you haven't been banned. Stop making shitty threads on our forum, flapjacks.

 

[abandonconflict]

I don't think I've called Rob Roy a pedophile. What he does believe, and there are examples in this very thread, is that a child can (and should be able to) give consent to engaging in sexual activity with an adult [without fearing punishment from 'government'].

What he repeatedly fails to acknowledge is the inability of a child to risk-asses, or to fully appreciate long-term consequences of his/her decisions. This is why we have child protection laws; safeguards to prevent the injury of a child, both physical and emotional, by predatory adults.

Rob Roy doesn't believe that all children risk-assess at the same rate, therefore there shouldn't be laws protecting children of any age, and all children should be 'free' to consent to anything with whomever they choose. It's then an extremely short leap to endorsing grooming practices..

I think it is hilarious when someone makes that short hop to the pedo conclusion. I certainly would not trust such a person near children.

 

[Rob Roy]

No. Learn to read. I said your "philosophy" of anarchocapitalism was created by that sort of people, namely Murray Rothbard. He was well aware that anarchism was a leftwing philosophy when he attempted to appropriate the word, along with the word 'libertarian' into rightwing ideology.

Anyway, nice work completely dodging the arguments so that you could yet again repeat "what is property" as if it hasn't been answered 50 thousand times. So there it is, the guy who always repeats, "muh consent" doesn't know what consent is. The guy who always repeats "muh property" has just admitted to not knowing what property is. The guy who calls himself an anarchist has never read a book written by an anarchist.

Last but not least, I'm not here to theorize utopian ideas with a repetitive and boring fool. You have not responded to those arguments, you have dodged them. You claim to live by a philosophy of voluntary interaction, yet you harass me with questions I have answered, even though I have told you that they bore me and that I do not wish to engage further if you are unable to argue the very ideas you have begun to argue about. You say I "run from questions" but you have gone several pages in this thread without responding to the arguments you demanded.

If you're going to waste my time, I won't give it to you. That's as nice as I can possibly be.

TL/DR

 

[Rob Roy]

I think it is hilarious when someone makes that short hop to the pedo conclusion. I certainly would not trust such a person near children.