2 dead in school shooting in KY

[MichiganMedGrower]

That's typically what these dipshits do when they are losing.

It suck because I agree with them often. And sometimes I disagree........

They won’t have that happen without a hissy fit.

 

[Cold$moke]

this is your reason you give for carrying a gun. you an die at work every day, and obviously believe carrying a gun could kill one of those crack heads you see. are those crack heads part of the work you do every day?

I dont carry during work as it would interfere with my saftey equipment

I simply meant that since i am usually in charge of my own life and death on a daily basis

I dont have a fear of little things like guns


And yes i carry and dont put myself around crazies

But that does not stop them from finding you when you are out with yohr family
Its called crime and it happens

I chose to be prepared for both animals that can hurt you while out i the woods

And for bad people

Like i should have poited out in the beginning before this fire started

The guns that arent locked. Although they have a magazine in they arent chamberd.

I dont carry a gun out of fear
I carry one because bad stuff happens at a moments notice

 

[Fogdog]

It actually makes sense when you figure that 50% of fatal police shootings are white, 26% are black. White population is 63%, black is 17%. Then when you combine the fact that blacks commit more than half of the murders and half of the robberies (but only make up 17% of the pop.) it all makes sense. Do you get it now?

Blacks don't commit more than half of the murders and other violent crimes. Since we are talking about cops shooting black people then let's talk about how many are arrested instead.

FBI statistics:
Arrests for violent crimes (Violent crimes are offenses of murder and nonnegligent manslaughter, rape, robbery, and aggravated assault)

505,681 violent crimes 2015 total
140,543 Arrests for violent crime black people (28%)
232,180 Arrests for violent crime white people (45%)

WaPo 2015 statistics about police shootings:

995 Total
259 Black people shot (26%)
497 White people shot (50%)

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2015/crime-in-the-u.s.-2015/tables/table-43
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/police-shootings/


OK, this, I think is what you are getting at. Your theory is that black people are shot at a higher rate than their proportion in the population (17%) because they commit more crimes.

But those shootings have little to do with arrests due to violent crime:

21% complaint to police alleging domestic violence or some other domestic disturbance
16% arose from officers attempting to arrest a wanted person, execute a warrant or apprehend a fugitive
14% of killings followed an attempted traffic or street stop
13% came after someone committed a violent crime
7% after a non-violent crime

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/31/the-counted-police-killings-2015-young-black-men

Only 16% of the shootings had anything to do with arresting somebody over a violent crime. Your theory is bunk. Crime rates have nothing to do with the excessive number of police shootings.

 

[Fogdog]

My iPhone apparently disagrees with you.

And all you got now is picking on spelling.

I’m sad. I would have liked to contribute to these forums. But you guys kill every discussion.

Your iphone is wrong.

As usual, you missed the point. I said you were reading challenged. As evident in your earlier post. That you can't spell is just a symptom.

 

[MichiganMedGrower]

Blacks don't commit more than half of the murders and other violent crimes. Since we are talking about cops shooting black people then let's talk about how many are arrested instead.

FBI statistics:
Arrests for violent crimes (Violent crimes are offenses of murder and nonnegligent manslaughter, rape, robbery, and aggravated assault)

505,681 violent crimes 2015 total
140,543 Arrests for violent crime black people (28%)
232,180 Arrests for violent crime white people (45%)

WaPo 2015 statistics about police shootings:

995 Total
259 Black people shot (26%)
497 White people shot (50%)

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2015/crime-in-the-u.s.-2015/tables/table-43
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/police-shootings/


OK, this, I think is what you are getting at. Your theory is that black people are shot at a higher rate than their proportion in the population (17%) because they commit more crimes.

But those shootings have little to do with arrests due to violent crime:

21% complaint to police alleging domestic violence or some other domestic disturbance
16% arose from officers attempting to arrest a wanted person, execute a warrant or apprehend a fugitive
14% of killings followed an attempted traffic or street stop
13% came after someone committed a violent crime
7% after a non-violent crime

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/31/the-counted-police-killings-2015-young-black-men

Only 16% of the shootings had anything to do with arresting somebody over a violent crime. Your theory is bunk. Crime rates have nothing to do with the excessive number of police shootings.

See you did have an agenda driving your misdirection of comment. You want everyone to see how smart you are with your posting of statistics.

And taco did mean what I thought.

You should step back and look at what you are doing. It is the opposite effect of your cause.

 

[MichiganMedGrower]

Your iphone is wrong.

As usual, you missed the point. I said you were reading challenged. As evident in your earlier post. That you can't spell is just a symptom.

Good job! You’re awesome!

 

[Cold$moke]

Fuck em. I stand my ground. I have rights. I'm not a dog for thier command. If I'm innocent fuck em.

This is true.

But also since you carry you realize why a cop would want to give you verbal comands
Because he doesnt know who you are or what your intentions are and As an innocent person why would you disobey the cop?

At the end of the day they are just guys going to work they want to make it home to their families too

Its all situational imo as to what degree of danger is present

I agree if a cop is just some dweeb that got picked on in high school looking for power

This is the worst kind of cop imo

But for the most part where i am the cops are usually pretty nice and treat you with respect

But their will always be peices of shit on BOTH sides of the law

I dont obey all laws but dont consider my self a piece of crap either

I work paid for my house kids are happy and fed

What eles is there? Just cause i dont obey every law like back when pot was illegal doesnt make us peices of trash lol

 

[Fogdog]

See you did have an agenda driving your misdirection of comment. You want everyone to see how smart you are with your posting of statistics.

And taco did mean what I thought.

You should step back and look at what you are doing. It is the opposite effect of your cause.

LOL

Like I said. You have very poor reading comprehension.

 

[Fogdog]

This is true.

But also since you carry you realize why a cop would want to give you verbal comands
Because he doesnt know who you are or what your intentions are and As an innocent person why would you disobey the cop?

At the end of the day they are just guys going to work they want to make it home to their families too

Its all situational imo as to what degree of danger is present

I agree if a cop is just some dweeb that got picked on in high school looking for power

This is the worst kind of cop imo

But for the most part where i am the cops are usually pretty nice and treat you with respect

But their will always be peices of shit on BOTH sides of the law

I dont obey all laws but dont consider my self a piece of crap either

I work paid for my house kids are happy and fed

What eles is there? Just cause i dont obey every law like back when pot was illegal doesnt make us peices of trash lol

Cops are gangsters acting under the protection of the legal system.

They cover for each other. Even ones that aren't crooked will never turn in a crooked cop.

 

[Cold$moke]

Cops are gangsters acting under the protection of the legal system.

They cover for each other. Even ones that aren't crooked will never turn in a crooked cop.

I never stated there wasnt pieces of shit
In law enforcement it happens every where
Includinge the military

In fact ive stated many times that not all cops or military should have access to weapons

 

[Fogdog]

Black commit more "violent" crime (not total crime) then any other race. They make up 17% of the population yet they are responsible for than double that percentage in murders, so naturally they are going to be involved with police shootings at a higher rate than any other race.

What you say here is completely untrue. It is a common arguing point among klansmen and nazis. So, naturally, I'm assuming you are one of them.

 

[Cold$moke]

If i was a cop and knew there was a piece of shit
I would turn him in


Its called HONOR And duty

 

[Fogdog]

I never stated there wasnt pieces of shit
In law enforcement it happens every where
Includinge the military

In fact ive stated many times that not all cops or military should have access to weapons

Cops don't turn in other cops when they see illegal behavior. Even cops who don't commit crimes look the other way when one does. It's a gang that operates under the protection of the legal system.

 

[Fogdog]

If i was a cop and knew there was a piece of shit
I would turn him in


Its called HONOR And duty

You aren't a cop. Cops don't turn in dirty cops because they know they couldn't depend on backup. It's a coercive corrupt system.

 

[chiqifella]

it's often not the job that kills them....its the secrets

 

[Cold$moke]

Cops don't turn in other cops when they see illegal behavior. Even cops who don't commit crimes look the other way when one does. It's a gang that operates under the protection of the legal system.

I would cause im not a bitch

I belive in HONOR to the core

Before my woman got pregnant i was signed up for the military because its

AN HONOR
AND A FAMILY TRADITION
Im the only male.in my family that hasnt served

 

[MichiganMedGrower]

LOL

Like I said. You have very poor reading comprehension.

I must since you are still trying to convince me of your bullshit.

 

[Cold$moke]

You aren't a cop. Cops don't turn in dirty cops because they know they couldn't depend on backup. It's a coercive corrupt system.

I agree there are fucked up ones, yes sir

 

[MichiganMedGrower]

If i was a cop and knew there was a piece of shit
I would turn him in


Its called HONOR And duty

They kill and bury you and maybe your family for that sometimes.

 

[Cold$moke]

it's often not the job that kills them....its the secrets

This is why honor is important and should be tuaght in schools