I need seeds

[whitebb2727]

Ad copy isn't science (profit motive) and it's not a primary source for this type of information. If you'd like to dig deeper here's a good place for you to begin. It will explain it in depth and give you sources for more information. Best of all it has the advantage of being quite accessible.
https://www.nature.com/articles/6800016

Ill read it. I just thought cannabis was more complicated than monoecious or dioecious. I will admit that I never was much into biology.

 

[Indacouch]

Great Lakes genetics


You have to send in a money order, but they are US based so no customs. I’ve had so many orders snagged by customs it’s ridiculous.


Or you can suck dick and get free man seeds.

Choices ......choices

Hhhhmmmmmm

 

[Jimdamick]

Yeah that was my thought too. One clone sold gets my money back. All the clones and smoke i get after that are basically free except for electric and shit. As long as the genetics aren't shit $20 doesn't seem too terrible to me.

I only buy high end seeds ($15/20 a pop average) because the quality/production of a quality seed far outmatches a seed that costs $10, usually.
I just save my beer cans for a week, turn them in, get my $40 and splurge
I get usually 3 zips per plant, sell at $15 per gram ($10 per 1/4 lb in quantity), so for each plant harvested, I make around $1200, minus nutes and electricity, so as far as buying cheap seeds, fuck that shit.

 

[whitebb2727]

I will also say that I've been in severe pain the last couple months. Compression fractures in my spine. Nerve pain as well. Seems I've been having trouble concentrating and even had a short fuse lately. I was hurting so bad I had tears in my eyes even getting out of bed.

Seems I'm also getting some depression. I'm not capable of doing the things I used to.

I'm against opiates but I had to take a couple norco along with some neurotin. I hate to but I can't take it. A pot cookie as well. Ill probably be higher than a kite in a bit.

I'm tough and broken bones, ribs, separated cartilage, among other things and never shed a tear. My wife was really worried after seeing me with tears in my eyes.

 

[Jimdamick]

Anyone got tips for an outdoor strain that finishes fast? Here in the NW, I've gotta be done before Oct.
"Fast Jack" is the only one I've found so far. (Sounds like a hot date.)
https://oregongreenseed.com/shop/oregon-green-seed/fast-jack/

Greenhouse Seeds "AMS" is extremely fast, and wonderful.
Not sure how it will do in the woods, but indoors it is totally done in 7/8 weeks.

 

[Jimdamick]

I will also say that I've been in severe pain the last couple months. Compression fractures in my spine. Nerve pain as well. Seems I've been having trouble concentrating and even had a short fuse lately. I was hurting so bad I had tears in my eyes even getting out of bed.

Seems I'm also getting some depression. I'm not capable of doing the things I used to.

I'm against opiates but I had to take a couple norco along with some neurotin. I hate to but I can't take it. A pot cookie as well. Ill prob a my

I'm tough and broken bones, ribs, separated cartilage, among other things and never shed a tear. My wife was really worried after seeing me with tears in my eyes.

What happened, my brother?

 

[Bob Zmuda]

Look into them. They’re good. @Bob Zmuda turned me on to them and he has the best genetics this side of the Mississippi! So what’s that tell you?

Thanks my homie.

I had to (briefly) break my strike because I simply can't take it anymore.

There are people asking where to get good beans and a paid advertiser shill is trying to get business from my TNT homies. I don't want anyone to be confused and think this is a good idea.

Reasons NOT to buy from "The Vault" if you live in America (or anywhere really)

- First and foremost is quality. The Vault/Attitude (same company) was ok 8 years ago or so. This was before American breeders/banks starting taking off. Vault simply doesn't have any in demand breeders. 90% of the seeds they carry are crappy dutch/spanish genetics that are outdated pollen chucking bullshit at best.

- Old stock. I've seen these same seeds from no-name companies sitting in stock for the last 10 years. Most won't germinate and that may be a good thing.

- Customs. When I did order from the Tude years ago I had 2 different orders snagged by Customs. They claim they will send it again free? Well that's not possible when there is no more stock of that seed pack. erm...pick your second choice. I don't have a second choice. Fuck.

- Price. Let's say you want some Bodhi (one of the good breeders they carry). All they have is old stock again and there are several American websites where they are cheaper with 50x the selection.

- Turnaround time. I have several banks in the US that get my seeds to me in 2-3 days (I've had the next day from one of them). With choice/tude you are lucky to see your beans in 3 weeks. Lucky.

I recommend:

Greenpoint Seeds
The Dank Team
Great Lakes Genetics

 

[whitebb2727]

What happened, my brother?

I was severely injured in the military and never allowed the time to heal right. I've been involved in a few car wrecks as well as atv wrecks. I raced and was hard on myself. I work too hard.

I have formaminal narrowing in my spine lower down and causes intermittent sciatic pain as well as burning and pins and needles in my hip and legs.

Summer before the one that just went by I was working and picked up something and felt a sharp pain in the center of my back. I've had problems since. Dr did some xrays and said something about compression fractures. I go for another MRI as soon as they schedule one.

The pain has gotten more frequent as well as more intense as time went by.

Its caused me to gain weight because I find it hard to do as much as I used to. The extra weight irritates it.

Sorry I'm rambling I guess. I'm just a little on the depressed side. I'm worried that I will have to live with this the rest 9f my life.

The VA is taking their sweet ass time on my claims.

I don't know what to do. The Drs are saying it might be time to go on disability and take it easy. I don't want to.

 

[Jimdamick]

I've heard that cloning reduces the chance of hermies, but it could be bro science. Pretty sure I read it on a breeder web site.

The only way you get a hermie is in 2 ways.
1- genetics, which you can't do shit about, so if you clone a hermie, you get a hermie as a result.
2- environmental stress, like high temps, PH/PPM/EC way out of whack, which is the main cause in my opinion.
The odds of getting a natural hermie are very, very slim, but making one isn't that hard for someone that doesn't know what their doing. (I made a few when I was young )

 

[whitebb2727]

Thanks my homie.

I had to (briefly) break my strike because I simply can't take it anymore.

There are people asking where to get good beans and a paid advertiser shill is trying to get business from my TNT homies. I don't want anyone to be confused and think this is a good idea.

Reasons NOT to buy from "The Vault" if you live in America (or anywhere really)

- First and foremost is quality. The Vault/Attitude (same company) was ok 8 years ago or so. This was before American breeders/banks starting taking off. Vault simply doesn't have any in demand breeders. 90% of the seeds they carry are crappy dutch/spanish genetics that are outdated pollen chucking bullshit at best.

- Old stock. I've seen these same seeds from no-name companies sitting in stock for the last 10 years. Most won't germinate and that may be a good thing.

- Customs. When I did order from the Tude years ago I had 2 different orders snagged by Customs. They claim they will send it again free? Well that's not possible when there is no more stock of that seed pack. erm...pick your second choice. I don't have a second choice. Fuck.

- Price. Let's say you want some Bodhi (one of the good breeders they carry). All they have is old stock again and there are several American websites where they are cheaper with 50x the selection.

- Turnaround time. I have several banks in the US that get my seeds to me in 2-3 days (I've had the next day from one of them). With choice/tude you are lucky to see your beans in 3 weeks. Lucky.

I recommend:

Greenpoint Seeds
The Dank Team
Great Lakes Genetics

Hmmm. Might want to ease up on the vault. They are good people. They may be a paid shill but they actually give out free seeds for comparison grows.

They stand by their word and have good customer service.

They may not have the genetics people want but I've gotten every order in a timely fashion and no old stock that didn't pop.

They have passion for what they do and stand behind their word. Can't ask much more than that. Sure maybe they could try to stock some more gear but they sell some good gear. Bodhi, Mr nice and a few other good gear is sold there.

All my orders from the vault have arrived to south east US in 5-12 actual days not business.

I don't see why not to use them. Maybe not having some of the American genetics would be the only reason.

That said I will be ordering from greenpoint. They carry a lot of what great lakes has. Same breeders and pics. Great lakes has a few more breeders.

 

[Bob Zmuda]

Hmmm. Might want to ease up on the vault. They are good people. They may be a paid shill but they actually give out free seeds for comparison grows.

They stand by their word and have good customer service.

They may not have the genetics people want but I've gotten every order in a timely fashion and no old stock that didn't pop.

They have passion for what they do and stand behind their word. Can't ask much more than that. Sure maybe they could try to stock some more gear but they sell some good gear. Bodhi, Mr nice and a few other good gear is sold there.

All my orders from the vault have arrived to south east US in 5-12 actual days not business.

I don't see why not to use them. Maybe not having some of the American genetics would be the only reason.

That said I will be ordering from greenpoint. They carry a lot of what great lakes has. Same breeders and pics. Great lakes has a few more breeders.

Hey, just callin it how I see it. When you can get FIRE from greenpoint for 37 bucks in 2 days with no CHANCE of green customs tape why would you bother with the BS vault has. They are the walmart of seedbanks and I hardly consider them having heart for anything but cash.

Sure, bodhi and Mr Nice. But why not go to Mr Nice seed site where he practically give his beans away?

Bodhi are buy 2 get 1 free at Great Lakes.

The Vault gives freebies that I wouldn't use for birdseed. Sorry man but genetics and who has quality shit is all I really care about and Vault just doesn't have it.

I'm sure they are nice people. Not trying to knock them. I just wouldn't send them my money. If you like what you grew from them that's all that matters.

 

[Jimdamick]

I was severely injured in the military and never allowed the time to heal right. I've been involved in a few car wrecks as well as atv wrecks. I raced and was hard on myself. I work too hard.

I have formaminal narrowing in my spine lower down and causes intermittent sciatic pain as well as burning and pins and needles in my hip and legs.

Summer before the one that just went by I was working and picked up something and felt a sharp pain in the center of my back. I've had problems since. Dr did some xrays and said something about compression fractures. I go for another MRI as soon as they schedule one.

The pain has gotten more frequent as well as more intense as time went by.

Its caused me to gain weight because I find it hard to do as much as I used to. The extra weight irritates it.

Sorry I'm rambling I guess. I'm just a little on the depressed side. I'm worried that I will have to live with this the rest 9f my life.

The VA is taking their sweet ass time on my claims.

I don't know what to do. The Drs are saying it might be time to go on disability and take it easy. I don't want to.

That's tough shit to deal with.
Take it easy, and do what your Dr's tell you to do, and get the disability and the surgery, and at least then you have done all you can do.
Backs are the most fucked up thing on your body, I know, I can barely bend over some day's to water my plants, which royally sucks.
Old age is a bitch, that will kill you eventually
Sorry about your pain, and I hope you feel better.
Merry Xmas, my friend, and get well soon.

 

[Jimdamick]

The Vault gives freebies that I wouldn't use for birdseed.

That's pretty funny

 

[whitebb2727]

Hey, just callin it how I see it. When you can get FIRE from greenpoint for 37 bucks in 2 days with no CHANCE of green customs tape why would you bother with the BS vault has. They are the walmart of seedbanks and I hardly consider them having heart for anything but cash.

Sure, bodhi and Mr Nice. But why not go to Mr Nice seed site where he practically give his beans away?

Bodhi are buy 2 get 1 free at Great Lakes.

The Vault gives freebies that I wouldn't use for birdseed. Sorry man but genetics and who has quality shit is all I really care about and Vault just doesn't have it.

I'm sure they are nice people. Not trying to knock them. I just wouldn't send them my money. If you like what you grew from them that's all that matters.

Don't get me wrong, I will be ordering from greenpoint. To be honest though the 37 price is only for discontinued stuff. Everything else is 100 bucks. That's not a problem though as I said. 100 bucks is nothing for good seeds. I'm going to give 100 bucks for 5 of the raspberry kush seeds.

I was just saying that the vault are honest people. I'm just saying for what they sell compared to other overseas places they are fair and have good customer support.

That's all. Just letting people know they are a trustworthy site.

 

[whitebb2727]

That's tough shit to deal with.
Take it easy, and do what your Dr's tell you to do, and get the disability and the surgery, and at least then you have done all you can do.
Backs are the most fucked up thing on your body, I know, I can barely bend over some day's to water my plants, which royally sucks.
Old age is a bitch, that will kill you eventually
Sorry about your pain, and I hope you feel better.
Merry Xmas, my friend, and get well soon.

Thank you. Merry Christmas to you too.

 

[jerryb73]

That's pretty funny

I laughed, still am

 

[curious2garden]

I will also say that I've been in severe pain the last couple months. Compression fractures in my spine. Nerve pain as well. Seems I've been having trouble concentrating and even had a short fuse lately. I was hurting so bad I had tears in my eyes even getting out of bed.

Seems I'm also getting some depression. I'm not capable of doing the things I used to.

I'm against opiates but I had to take a couple norco along with some neurotin. I hate to but I can't take it. A pot cookie as well. Ill probably be higher than a kite in a bit.

I'm tough and broken bones, ribs, separated cartilage, among other things and never shed a tear. My wife was really worried after seeing me with tears in my eyes.

Oh hun, I'm sorry that's awful and I do understand. If you want to discuss chronic pain control PM me

 

[curious2garden]

Hey, just callin it how I see it. When you can get FIRE from greenpoint for 37 bucks in 2 days with no CHANCE of green customs tape why would you bother with the BS vault has. They are the walmart of seedbanks and I hardly consider them having heart for anything but cash.

Sure, bodhi and Mr Nice. But why not go to Mr Nice seed site where he practically give his beans away?

Bodhi are buy 2 get 1 free at Great Lakes.

The Vault gives freebies that I wouldn't use for birdseed. Sorry man but genetics and who has quality shit is all I really care about and Vault just doesn't have it.

I'm sure they are nice people. Not trying to knock them. I just wouldn't send them my money. If you like what you grew from them that's all that matters.

Yeah I've seen your fire! When I grow up I wanna grow like you. At first I had great experience with Attitude/Vault and then my last order, meh.

 

[whitebb2727]

Oh hun, I'm sorry that's awful and I do understand. If you want to discuss chronic pain control PM me

Thank you. I will hit you up. I try to do everything I can. I eat right. Drink plenty of water. I walk daily even though I'm in pain. I do other exercises and stretches. Heat pad. Sometimes ice. Tens unit. Arthritis creams. Cannabis salves, tincture and edibles. Motrin but sparingly.

I have some muscle rub I make from hot peppers.

 

[Chunky Stool]

Hey, just callin it how I see it. When you can get FIRE from greenpoint for 37 bucks in 2 days with no CHANCE of green customs tape why would you bother with the BS vault has. They are the walmart of seedbanks and I hardly consider them having heart for anything but cash.

Sure, bodhi and Mr Nice. But why not go to Mr Nice seed site where he practically give his beans away?

Bodhi are buy 2 get 1 free at Great Lakes.

The Vault gives freebies that I wouldn't use for birdseed. Sorry man but genetics and who has quality shit is all I really care about and Vault just doesn't have it.

I'm sure they are nice people. Not trying to knock them. I just wouldn't send them my money. If you like what you grew from them that's all that matters.

Even the discontinued seeds from greenpoint are fresh and viable.
I popped a pack of Blizzard Bush and 10/10 germinated, no problem-o.